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After The Flood

After The Flood

2013-06-27 by albertadentist

Hey All,

I have / had a Matrix 6R, Matrix M-1000 and Expandar XK keyboard, along with other panels and boards, all analogue, all working in great shape.

Calgary, Canada had a massive flood last Thursday, and all of my equipment was completely underwater for three days. The water slowly settled, leaving silt and mud everywhere.

Yesterday, I pulled it all out of the water-soaked basement, and set it out.
Everything is coated in layers of mud and silt, not to mention being submerged in water for 3days.

Is anything salvageable?
Or, is it all toast?

And, I won't even get into my 3600 record vinyl collection...

Heartbroken,
Trey

Re: [oberheim] After The Flood

2013-06-27 by rob hukin

Hi Trey,

As soon as possible, take them apart and hose them down - use a detergent and brush as required and then when they're clean rinse thoroughly with de-ionised (distilled water) and leave somewhere warm to dry. You must do this as soon as possible, though.

best wishes,
rob.

On 27 Jun 2013, at 15:05, albertadentist wrote:

Hey All,

I have / had a Matrix 6R, Matrix M-1000 and Expandar XK keyboard, along with other panels and boards, all analogue, all working in great shape.

Calgary, Canada had a massive flood last Thursday, and all of my equipment was completely underwater for three days. The water slowly settled, leaving silt and mud everywhere.

Yesterday, I pulled it all out of the water-soaked basement, and set it out.
Everything is coated in layers of mud and silt, not to mention being submerged in water for 3days.

Is anything salvageable?
Or, is it all toast?

And, I won't even get into my 3600 record vinyl collection...

Heartbroken,
Trey


Re: [oberheim] After The Flood

2013-06-27 by Nick Zampiello

Thats Terrible!

i bet with patience 90% of the electronics are savable.  vinyl yes sleeves not so much...


electronics wise, get things appart asap and start to clean out the silt and other deposits before they dry.

i would even suggest using mild cleaning supplies and warm running water to lift the crud out.

Dont let them dry completely until after you clean them.  many minerals and other water bourn crud can become cement like once it dries.  this is much harder to get off!

I am confident you can save this stuff because i recently had a spare Simmons SDSV that was in storage. I later found that it had been directly under a leak in the cement ceiling for 2 years.

much of the crud had hardened to cement and was inside everything, even pots.

it took a lot of patience but with a toothbrush, alcohol, other cleaners, and warm water i got 90% of the crap off and the unit now works completely.

that will eventually be a long long blog post...

z


 
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 From: rob hukin <robhukin@...>
To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [oberheim] After The Flood
 


  
Hi Trey,

As soon as possible, take them apart and hose them down - use a detergent and brush as required and then when they're clean rinse thoroughly with de-ionised (distilled water) and leave somewhere warm to dry. You must do this as soon as possible, though.

best wishes,
rob.
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On 27 Jun 2013, at 15:05, albertadentist wrote:

  
>Hey All,
>
>I have / had a Matrix 6R, Matrix M-1000 and Expandar XK keyboard, along with other panels and boards, all analogue, all working in great shape.
>
>Calgary, Canada had a massive flood last Thursday, and all of my equipment was completely underwater for three days. The water slowly settled, leaving silt and mud everywhere.
>
>Yesterday, I pulled it all out of the water-soaked basement, and set it out.
>Everything is coated in layers of mud and silt, not to mention being submerged in water for 3days.
>
>Is anything salvageable?
>Or, is it all toast?
>
>And, I won't even get into my 3600 record vinyl collection...
>
>Heartbroken,
>Trey
>
>

Re: [oberheim] After The Flood

2013-06-28 by F.Manduca

Really,really sorry for You,Trey,especially for the records.If there are no scratches on them,maybe You could clean them first with demineralized water,then with a pure Hysopropilic alcohol spray can( well a massive number of....)together with the usual record cleaning brush. I think this kind of spray is available.It's the same alcohol used for tape decks heads and videorecorder ones.You loose the covers,but at least You could still enjioy the music....I would use this kind of alcohol for the synths as well,but not water first.Of course,this solution is not cheap,unluckily.Hope it helps,somehow......Good luck!!Oh,btw,no direct sun or too much heat for the Obies.No sun or heat at all for the records!!!




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 Da: rob hukin <robhukin@...>
A: oberheim@yahoogroups.com 
Inviato: Giovedì 27 Giugno 2013 16:21
Oggetto: Re: [oberheim] After The Flood
 


  
Hi Trey,

As soon as possible, take them apart and hose them down - use a detergent and brush as required and then when they're clean rinse thoroughly with de-ionised (distilled water) and leave somewhere warm to dry. You must do this as soon as possible, though.

best wishes,
rob.
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On 27 Jun 2013, at 15:05, albertadentist wrote:

  
>Hey All,
>
>I have / had a Matrix 6R, Matrix M-1000 and Expandar XK keyboard, along with other panels and boards, all analogue, all working in great shape.
>
>Calgary, Canada had a massive flood last Thursday, and all of my equipment was completely underwater for three days. The water slowly settled, leaving silt and mud everywhere.
>
>Yesterday, I pulled it all out of the water-soaked basement, and set it out.
>Everything is coated in layers of mud and silt, not to mention being submerged in water for 3days.
>
>Is anything salvageable?
>Or, is it all toast?
>
>And, I won't even get into my 3600 record vinyl collection...
>
>Heartbroken,
>Trey
>
>

Re: [oberheim] After The Flood

2013-06-28 by John Leimseider

Hi Trey... I definitely relate... The paia stuff you donated a couple of years ago were on high enough shelves here at NMC, so nothing happened to them. Lots of parts machines, and tubs of parts, including about many of our 35 tubs of OB parts got soaked. We got about 4 feet of filthy water in our sub-basement and about 18" in the basement. We are lucky enough to have many great volunteers, who are helping us move all of this to our new offsite, which was not easy without any electricity for the elevator. We got power yesterday for the freight elevator. The evacuation of many acoustic instruments began last night. Most of our most significant instruments had no damage at all, and hopefully we'll be up and running again soon. We've started the process of cleaning all of the mud-covered items. Please let me know if I can help. If you clean it all with tap water, thoroughly, and then with distilled water, then dry it gently, it's likely that everything will be OK with the synths. Do be very sure that everything is totally dry before plugging it in! Good luck with it. JL

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On 2013-06-28, at 6:40 AM, "F.Manduca" <resistenzaaoltranza@...> wrote:

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Really,really sorry for You,Trey,especially for the records.If there are no scratches on them,maybe You could clean them first with demineralized water,then with a pure Hysopropilic alcohol spray can( well a massive number of....)together with the usual record cleaning brush. I think this kind of spray is available.It's the same alcohol used for tape decks heads and videorecorder ones.You loose the covers,but at least You could still enjioy the music....I would use this kind of alcohol for the synths as well,but not water first.Of course,this solution is not cheap,unluckily.Hope it helps,somehow......Good luck!!Oh,btw,no direct sun or too much heat for the Obies.No sun or heat at all for the records!!!


Da: rob hukin <robhukin@gmail.com>
A: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
Inviato: Giovedì 27 Giugno 2013 16:21
Oggetto: Re: [oberheim] After The Flood

Hi Trey,

As soon as possible, take them apart and hose them down - use a detergent and brush as required and then when they're clean rinse thoroughly with de-ionised (distilled water) and leave somewhere warm to dry. You must do this as soon as possible, though.

best wishes,
rob.

On 27 Jun 2013, at 15:05, albertadentist wrote:

Hey All,

I have / had a Matrix 6R, Matrix M-1000 and Expandar XK keyboard, along with other panels and boards, all analogue, all working in great shape.

Calgary, Canada had a massive flood last Thursday, and all of my equipment was completely underwater for three days. The water slowly settled, leaving silt and mud everywhere.

Yesterday, I pulled it all out of the water-soaked basement, and set it out.
Everything is coated in layers of mud and silt, not to mention being submerged in water for 3days.

Is anything salvageable?
Or, is it all toast?

And, I won't even get into my 3600 record vinyl collection...

Heartbroken,
Trey




Re: After The Flood

2013-06-29 by wesleyknick

To add to the rest of the comments, I've repaired a number of keyboards to include several Matrix 6 and 6Rs and many more Korg and Roland keyboards.  I did recently pick up an old Korg DW-8000 that had obviously been in a flood and given the locale of the shipper I could only assume it was water damaged from hurricane Sandy.  It was sold as 'For parts not working' and after receiving it and opening it up I realized what had happened to it.  Surprisingly after disassembling the instrument and cleaning out all the sediment, and putting it back together only then did realize everything had survived.  I sprayed the circuit boards with battery terminal cleaner that you can buy at most auto parts stores, let them soak in it and then just rinsed them off with water.  The battery terminal cleaner really seemed to dissolve much of the grit, grime and surface corrosion that had started to show on the IC pins.  The biggest threat to a circuit board when exposed to moisture are short circuits that burn up ICs, transistors and whatever else it can find ultimately gets exposed to too much current it there is any power to them.  As long as no power was applied your only next worry would be the memory battery however it may not be able to deliver enough current in a short circuit to cause any damage.  In a high moisture environment static electricity and discharge potential can be quite low.  My personal best recommendation: Clean them up with a solvent that won't attack the circuit board or components, let them dry thoroughly, maybe even for a good week or two depending the average humidity of where you're located, then make sure all the terminal contacts are clean, nothings shorted on the circuit boards and put everything together and see what happens.  Then troubleshoot from there...

--- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com, "albertadentist" <trey.petty@...> wrote:
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>
> Hey All,
> 
> I have / had a Matrix 6R, Matrix M-1000 and Expandar XK keyboard, along with other panels and boards, all analogue, all working in great shape.
> 
> Calgary, Canada had a massive flood last Thursday, and all of my equipment was completely underwater for three days. The water slowly settled, leaving silt and mud everywhere.
> 
> Yesterday, I pulled it all out of the water-soaked basement, and set it out.
> Everything is coated in layers of mud and silt, not to mention being submerged in water for 3days.
> 
> Is anything salvageable?
> Or, is it all toast?
> 
> And, I won't even get into my 3600 record vinyl collection...
> 
> Heartbroken,
> Trey
>

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