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Oberheim DX?

2015-02-14 by newallianceeast@...

anyone have one or better yet have the WAV file of the factory patches?

thanks!

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2015-02-14 by Nicole Massey

I've noticed that the X series drum machines by Oberheim are one of the rare classic drum machine sounds not found in sound font files or SFZ format sound maps. That'd be kind of cool, but it'd take someone recording each sound. (Were they velocity sensitive?)

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> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 2:03 PM
> To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
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> 
> 
> [Attachment(s) from Les Lambert included below]
> 
> I have a cassette of the last edition of the DMX, from the Rev 4
> factory fitted MIDI machines.
> I may have a wav, but I probably have a MIDI dump as that made more
> sense at the time.
> I'll have a look.
> Yes attempting attachment.
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: "newallianceeast@... [oberheim]" <oberheim@...m>
> To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, 14 February 2015, 19:48
> Subject: [oberheim] Oberheim DX?
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> 
> anyone have one or better yet have the WAV file of the factory patches?
> 
> 
> thanks!
> 
> 
> 
>

State of the Company?

2015-02-14 by Nicole Massey

It's been a while since I've been in the keyboard section of a music store, and since I lost my sight I haven't been able to read the magazines. Is Oberheim producing anything interesting these days? The last thing I ran into was their Eclipse controller, and it didn't impress me much. And what of their current stuff is original and what is rebranded stuff like their Ob3 organ units?

Re: [oberheim] State of the Company?

2015-02-14 by florian anwander

Am 14.02.2015 um 21:26 schrieb 'Nicole Massey' nyyki@... 
[oberheim]:
> It's been a while since I've been in the keyboard section of a music
> store, and since I lost my sight I haven't been able to read the
> magazines. Is Oberheim producing anything interesting these days?
No. Not really anything interesting.

Florian

Oberheim Drum Machines were not velocity sensitive;like the LM-1 different levels of the sample were made available by triggering a different "note".They didn't actually become notes until MIDI was added, but that's how it was done.MIDI was made available for the DMX and DX around the same time the Akai S900 took off, and both machines were soon discontinued. Shame I say.
The pure samples are only part of the story, each voice being enveloped in various ways by hardware implementation on the 8 voice cards, each having a CEM filter chip and DtoA.
Pitch variation with envelope was used on the tom cards, and an envelope related closing filter frequency on snare etc to reduce noise possibly. If you were keen you could "damp" the lower pitch tom to be shorter than the hi tom derived from the same sample. A soldering iron and resistors and capacitors were required, but still, heady stuff.
In this way a single sample, treated differently could fool even the professional listener into thinking they were hearing multiple samples.
When the Prommer appeared it was possible to load the Prommer with any chips you couldn't fit inside the DMX and trigger them from MIDI, but the sounds didn't match, without a voice card.My expensive solution was multiple DMXs and voice cards. Couldn't afford to keep them, though I did get left with many chips and voice cards.It does take a long time to sample these, and obviously once you choose a format, you narrow your choices.Eventually I chose Akai S6000, and have transferred sounds from tape transfers via my DAW into wavs for the S6000.Some years have passed since I began, and no I don't want to donate the result of all that effort for free, cruel as that may sound.
There is a DMX to WAV program and the BIN files are out on the internet, possibly here in the files section.An old PC is required to work this trick I suspect. None of the voice card activity would be included of course.
From: "'Nicole Massey' nyyki@... [oberheim]" <oberheim@...m>
To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 14 February 2015, 20:23
Subject: RE: [oberheim] Oberheim DX?

I've noticed that the X series drum machines by Oberheim are one of the rare classic drum machine sounds not found in sound font files or SFZ format sound maps. That'd be kind of cool, but it'd take someone recording each sound. (Were they velocity sensitive?)

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 2:03 PM
> To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [oberheim] Oberheim DX? [1 Attachment]
> 
> 
> [Attachment(s) from Les Lambert included below]
> 
> I have a cassette of the last edition of the DMX, from the Rev 4
> factory fitted MIDI machines.
> I may have a wav, but I probably have a MIDI dump as that made more
> sense at the time.
> I'll have a look.
> Yes attempting attachment.
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: "newallianceeast@... [oberheim]" <oberheim@yahoogroups.com>
> To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, 14 February 2015, 19:48
> Subject: [oberheim] Oberheim DX?
> 
> 
> 
> anyone have one or better yet have the WAV file of the factory patches?
> 
> 
> thanks!
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [oberheim] State of the Company?

2015-02-14 by Daniel Nigrin

Take a look at http://tomoberheim.com (hopefully it will work OK with your screen reader). He is re-issuing some of his old classics\u2026

Dan

Dan Nigrin / Defective Records / http://defectiverecords.com

CycliC, M185 & Klee Sequencers / MC-4 & MC-202 Hacks / Audio Plugin & General MIDI Players

From: "'Nicole Massey' nyyki@... [oberheim]" <;oberheim@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: <oberheim@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 3:26 PM
To: <oberheim@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [oberheim] State of the Company?

It's been a while since I've been in the keyboard section of a music store, and since I lost my sight I haven't been able to read the magazines. Is Oberheim producing anything interesting these days? The last thing I ran into was their Eclipse controller, and it didn't impress me much. And what of their current stuff is original and what is rebranded stuff like their Ob3 organ units?

RE: [oberheim] Oberheim DX?

2015-02-14 by Nicole Massey

Interesting stuff, and not surprising in light of Oberheim's sound architecture and other devices. I was just thinking about it because I've seen so many other classic drum machines rendered into sound font banks (SF2 files) or in other similar formats.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 3:11 PM
> To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [oberheim] Oberheim DX?
> 
> 
> 
> Oberheim Drum Machines were not velocity sensitive;like the LM-1
> different levels of the sample were made available by triggering a
> different "note".
> They didn't actually become notes until MIDI was added, but that's how
> it was done.
> MIDI was made available for the DMX and DX around the same time the
> Akai S900 took off, and both machines were soon discontinued. Shame I
> say.
> 
> The pure samples are only part of the story, each voice being enveloped
> in various ways by hardware implementation on the 8 voice cards, each
> having a CEM filter chip and DtoA.
> 
> Pitch variation with envelope was used on the tom cards, and an
> envelope related closing filter frequency on snare etc to reduce noise
> possibly. If you were keen you could "damp" the lower pitch tom to be
> shorter than the hi tom derived from the same sample. A soldering iron
> and resistors and capacitors were required, but still, heady stuff.
> 
> In this way a single sample, treated differently could fool even the
> professional listener into thinking they were hearing multiple samples.
> 
> When the Prommer appeared it was possible to load the Prommer with any
> chips you couldn't fit inside the DMX and trigger them from MIDI, but
> the sounds didn't match, without a voice card.
> My expensive solution was multiple DMXs and voice cards. Couldn't
> afford to keep them, though I did get left with many chips and voice
> cards.
> It does take a long time to sample these, and obviously once you choose
> a format, you narrow your choices.
> Eventually I chose Akai S6000, and have transferred sounds from tape
> transfers via my DAW into wavs for the S6000.
> Some years have passed since I began, and no I don't want to donate the
> result of all that effort for free, cruel as that may sound.
> 
> There is a DMX to WAV program and the BIN files are out on the
> internet, possibly here in the files section.
> An old PC is required to work this trick I suspect. None of the voice
> card activity would be included of course.
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: "'Nicole Massey' nyyki@... [oberheim]"
> <oberheim@yahoogroups.com>
> To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, 14 February 2015, 20:23
> Subject: RE: [oberheim] Oberheim DX?
> 
> 
> 
> I've noticed that the X series drum machines by Oberheim are one of the
> rare classic drum machine sounds not found in sound font files or SFZ
> format sound maps. That'd be kind of cool, but it'd take someone
> recording each sound. (Were they velocity sensitive?)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 2:03 PM
> > To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [oberheim] Oberheim DX? [1 Attachment]
> >
> >
> > [Attachment(s) from Les Lambert included below]
> >
> > I have a cassette of the last edition of the DMX, from the Rev 4
> > factory fitted MIDI machines.
> > I may have a wav, but I probably have a MIDI dump as that made more
> > sense at the time.
> > I'll have a look.
> > Yes attempting attachment.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: "newallianceeast@... [oberheim]"
> <oberheim@yahoogroups.com>
> > To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, 14 February 2015, 19:48
> > Subject: [oberheim] Oberheim DX?
> >
> >
> >
> > anyone have one or better yet have the WAV file of the factory
> patches?
> >
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [oberheim] Oberheim DX?

2015-02-14 by Nick Zampiello

if they are not velocity sensitive via midi you can use the pad design.
there'a a low medium and high volume pad for most sounds.
z NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

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     On Saturday, February 14, 2015 3:25 PM, "'Nicole Massey' nyyki@... [oberheim]" <oberheim@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
   

     I've noticed that the X series drum machines by Oberheim are one of the rare classic drum machine sounds not found in sound font files or SFZ format sound maps. That'd be kind of cool, but it'd take someone recording each sound. (Were they velocity sensitive?)

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 2:03 PM
> To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [oberheim] Oberheim DX? [1 Attachment]
> 
> 
> [Attachment(s) from Les Lambert included below]
> 
> I have a cassette of the last edition of the DMX, from the Rev 4
> factory fitted MIDI machines.
> I may have a wav, but I probably have a MIDI dump as that made more
> sense at the time.
> I'll have a look.
> Yes attempting attachment.
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: "newallianceeast@... [oberheim]" <oberheim@yahoogroups.com>
> To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, 14 February 2015, 19:48
> Subject: [oberheim] Oberheim DX?
> 
> 
> 
> anyone have one or better yet have the WAV file of the factory patches?
> 
> 
> thanks!
> 
> 
> 
>

RE: [oberheim] State of the Company?

2015-02-14 by Nicole Massey

Interesting. The SEM is tempting, though it's a lot of buck for a single
note unit. Now, if he decided to come out with a more than six voice version
of the Xpander I'd start saving pennies for one.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 3:34 PM
> To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [oberheim] State of the Company?
> 
> 
> 
> Take a look at http://tomoberheim.com (hopefully it will work OK with
> your screen reader).  He is re-issuing some of his old classics.
> 
> Dan
> --
> Dan Nigrin / Defective Records / http://defectiverecords.com
> <http://defectiverecords.com/> CycliC, M185 & Klee Sequencers / MC-4 &
> MC-202 Hacks / Audio Plugin & General MIDI Players
> 
> From: "'Nicole Massey' nyyki@... [oberheim]"
> <oberheim@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: <oberheim@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 3:26 PM
> To: <oberheim@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [oberheim] State of the Company?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> It's been a while since I've been in the keyboard section of a music
> store, and since I lost my sight I haven't been able to read the
> magazines. Is Oberheim producing anything interesting these days? The
> last thing I ran into was their Eclipse controller, and it didn't
> impress me much. And what of their current stuff is original and what
> is rebranded stuff like their Ob3 organ units?
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [oberheim] Legacy products

2015-02-15 by Les Lambert

In the days when new synths were astonishing, the music business was a very different place to work, and sadly, saving pennies isn't how it worked then. 
If you look at the real cost of those old beauties in 1980 several, and see what else your money would have bought you might not think the price is so steep .They were a lot of money to develop and design and build and market and support, and times have changed.I for one am glad the old stuff still has fans, they were exciting then and were very nicely made (overlooking the Molex connector I admit) and continue to sound great despite much that has arrived since.The more than 6 voice Xpander was the Matrix 12, but if a job needs 12 voice, hire a second Xpander for that gig. 
A Matrix 6 under the Xpander was quite close for (people with less than 12 fingers) me. 2 Matrix 1000s are pretty good too and have real 12 note mode too.

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    Interesting. The SEM is tempting, though it's a lot of buck for a single
note unit. Now, if he decided to come out with a more than six voice version
of the Xpander I'd start saving pennies for one.    
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RE: [oberheim] Legacy products

2015-02-15 by Nicole Massey

I wasn't aware the Matrix 12 could do more than six notes -- the literature said you switched between the two Xpander units with a switch, which would imply that they were two machines packaged in the same box but with discrete polyphony.
Oh, I'm not grousing about the cost, just trying to justify it for my current setup.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:54 AM
> To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [oberheim] Legacy products
> 
> 
> 
> In the days when new synths were astonishing, the music business was a
> very different place to work, and sadly, saving pennies isn't how it
> worked then.
> 
> If you look at the real cost of those old beauties in 1980 several, and
> see what else your money would have bought you might not think the
> price is so steep .
> They were a lot of money to develop and design and build and market and
> support, and times have changed.
> I for one am glad the old stuff still has fans, they were exciting then
> and were very nicely made (overlooking the Molex connector I admit) and
> continue to sound great despite much that has arrived since.
> The more than 6 voice Xpander was the Matrix 12, but if a job needs 12
> voice, hire a second Xpander for that gig.
> 
> A Matrix 6 under the Xpander was quite close for (people with less than
> 12 fingers) me.
> 2 Matrix 1000s are pretty good too and have real 12 note mode too.
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: "'Nicole Massey' nyyki@... [oberheim]"
> <oberheim@yahoogroups.com>
> To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, 14 February 2015, 21:44
> Subject: RE: [oberheim] State of the Company?
> 
> 
> 
> Interesting. The SEM is tempting, though it's a lot of buck for a
> single
> note unit. Now, if he decided to come out with a more than six voice
> version
> of the Xpander I'd start saving pennies for one.
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