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Resolved OB-8 sysx

Resolved OB-8 sysx

2006-12-26 by hugglett

Thank you so much Mike and Charles for responding.  My Christmas gift 
came when, last night at 1AM (Too many sweets during the day 
yesterday), I got the first patch back into the instrument via midi.  
I can't begin to explain why, but my individual patches that had been 
saved previously using Sound Quest can be opened by Midi Ox as 
an "other binary" file.  When opened this way, the sysx patch data is 
approximately 200+ bytes instead of the 60 byte patches I get when 
saving using Midi Ox alone.  Anyway, my OB-8 accepts the Sound Quest 
200 byte patches in whatever form that Midi Ox opens and sends them 
as.  Wish I knew more about the format and code stuff.  I have no 
idea why the patches saved using Sound Quest can't be sent back to 
the instrument also using Sound Quest, but that's another adventure 
and lots of experimentation.  For now, I'm just thrilled to have my 
patches back.

As for the cassette method, I have the orginal factory cassette, 
plus .wav files.  I've tried all different volume levels using 
headphone outs of cassette player and laptop, plus variety of mini 
pin cables from cheap ones to very expensive.  The one and only time 
I got any indication of the instrument recognizing the incoming data 
was when the transmission failed and wiped out my patches. 

Sincerely,

Mike Huggs

Re: [oberheim] Resolved OB-8 sysx

2006-12-26 by grw20022

Oberheim had a site that you can download all of their cassettes that they made. I think at that time there was 4 cassettes. I picked out all the ones I wanted to put in the OB from my computer and I also had a OB cassette that I used some of their sounds from that and loaded all the patches with the sounds that I liked from all 4 cassettes. I used a connecting cable with conductor shielded with 1/4 plug on one end and 1/8 plug at the other. I used the 1/8 side from my computer when I used that and 1/8 from my cassette players earphone or headphone output so you can ajust the playback volume control of the cassette player so the the OB is able to recognize the information coming in from the tape. the other side of the cable 1/4 goes into the from hookup in the back of the synth..back up all your patches to a cassette using the, to- from the back of the synth, use the parameters, send patch or send all... good luck...Gerry


hugglett wrote:
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Thank you so much Mike and Charles for responding. My Christmas gift
came when, last night at 1AM (Too many sweets during the day
yesterday), I got the first patch back into the instrument via midi.
I can't begin to explain why, but my individual patches that had been
saved previously using Sound Quest can be opened by Midi Ox as
an "other binary" file. When opened this way, the sysx patch data is
approximately 200+ bytes instead of the 60 byte patches I get when
saving using Midi Ox alone. Anyway, my OB-8 accepts the Sound Quest
200 byte patches in whatever form that Midi Ox opens and sends them
as. Wish I knew more about the format and code stuff. I have no
idea why the patches saved using Sound Quest can't be sent back to
the instrument also using Sound Quest, but that's another adventure
and lots of experimentation. For now, I'm just thrilled to have my
patches back.

As for the cassette method, I have the orginal factory cassette,
plus .wav files. I've tried all different volume levels using
headphone outs of cassette player and laptop, plus variety of mini
pin cables from cheap ones to very expensive. The one and only time
I got any indication of the instrument recognizing the incoming data
was when the transmission failed and wiped out my patches.

Sincerely,

Mike Huggs


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Re: Resolved OB-8 sysx

2007-01-19 by Mike Thompson

So how did you send the patches back to the instrument using midi 
ox?  I'm trying this myself and can't figure it out.  I got it to 
receive though...


--- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com, grw20022 <grw20022@...> wrote:
>
> Oberheim had a site that you can download all of their cassettes 
that they made. I think at that time there was 4 cassettes. I picked 
out all the ones I wanted to put in the OB from my computer and I 
also had a OB cassette that I used some of their sounds from that and 
loaded all the patches with the sounds that I liked from all 4 
cassettes. I used a connecting cable with conductor shielded with 1/4 
plug on one end and 1/8 plug at the other. I used the 1/8 side from 
my computer when I used that and 1/8 from my cassette players 
earphone or headphone output so you can ajust the playback volume 
control of the cassette player so the the OB is able to recognize the 
information coming in from the tape. the other side of the cable 1/4 
goes into the from hookup in the back of the synth..back up all your 
patches to a cassette using the, to- from the back of the synth, use 
the parameters, send patch or send all... good luck...Gerry
> 
> 
> hugglett <mhuggs@...> wrote:          Thank you so much Mike and 
Charles for responding. My Christmas gift 
> came when, last night at 1AM (Too many sweets during the day 
> yesterday), I got the first patch back into the instrument via 
midi. 
> I can't begin to explain why, but my individual patches that had 
been 
> saved previously using Sound Quest can be opened by Midi Ox as 
> an "other binary" file. When opened this way, the sysx patch data 
is 
> approximately 200+ bytes instead of the 60 byte patches I get when 
> saving using Midi Ox alone. Anyway, my OB-8 accepts the Sound Quest 
> 200 byte patches in whatever form that Midi Ox opens and sends them 
> as. Wish I knew more about the format and code stuff. I have no 
> idea why the patches saved using Sound Quest can't be sent back to 
> the instrument also using Sound Quest, but that's another adventure 
> and lots of experimentation. For now, I'm just thrilled to have my 
> patches back.
> 
> As for the cassette method, I have the orginal factory cassette, 
> plus .wav files. I've tried all different volume levels using 
> headphone outs of cassette player and laptop, plus variety of mini 
> pin cables from cheap ones to very expensive. The one and only time 
> I got any indication of the instrument recognizing the incoming 
data 
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> was when the transmission failed and wiped out my patches. 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Mike Huggs
> 
> 
> 
>          
> 
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Re: Resolved OB-8 sysx

2007-02-03 by hugglett

1st...Saved patch from OB8 to SoundQuest as .pat file.
2nd...Opened the .pat file with Midi-Ox as "other binary" file.
3rd...Sent the Midi-Ox patch to OB8.

Note: The patch loads back to the original location in the OB8.  If 
it originally came from location ABC-5, it will load back to that 
spot.

Mike


--- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Thompson" <tubmyk2@...> wrote:
>
> So how did you send the patches back to the instrument using midi 
> ox?  I'm trying this myself and can't figure it out.  I got it to 
> receive though...
> 
> 
> --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com, grw20022 <grw20022@> wrote:
> >
> > Oberheim had a site that you can download all of their cassettes 
> that they made. I think at that time there was 4 cassettes. I 
picked 
> out all the ones I wanted to put in the OB from my computer and I 
> also had a OB cassette that I used some of their sounds from that 
and 
> loaded all the patches with the sounds that I liked from all 4 
> cassettes. I used a connecting cable with conductor shielded with 
1/4 
> plug on one end and 1/8 plug at the other. I used the 1/8 side from 
> my computer when I used that and 1/8 from my cassette players 
> earphone or headphone output so you can ajust the playback volume 
> control of the cassette player so the the OB is able to recognize 
the 
> information coming in from the tape. the other side of the cable 
1/4 
> goes into the from hookup in the back of the synth..back up all 
your 
> patches to a cassette using the, to- from the back of the synth, 
use 
> the parameters, send patch or send all... good luck...Gerry
> > 
> > 
> > hugglett <mhuggs@> wrote:          Thank you so much Mike and 
> Charles for responding. My Christmas gift 
> > came when, last night at 1AM (Too many sweets during the day 
> > yesterday), I got the first patch back into the instrument via 
> midi. 
> > I can't begin to explain why, but my individual patches that had 
> been 
> > saved previously using Sound Quest can be opened by Midi Ox as 
> > an "other binary" file. When opened this way, the sysx patch data 
> is 
> > approximately 200+ bytes instead of the 60 byte patches I get 
when 
> > saving using Midi Ox alone. Anyway, my OB-8 accepts the Sound 
Quest 
> > 200 byte patches in whatever form that Midi Ox opens and sends 
them 
> > as. Wish I knew more about the format and code stuff. I have no 
> > idea why the patches saved using Sound Quest can't be sent back 
to 
> > the instrument also using Sound Quest, but that's another 
adventure 
> > and lots of experimentation. For now, I'm just thrilled to have 
my 
> > patches back.
> > 
> > As for the cassette method, I have the orginal factory cassette, 
> > plus .wav files. I've tried all different volume levels using 
> > headphone outs of cassette player and laptop, plus variety of 
mini 
> > pin cables from cheap ones to very expensive. The one and only 
time 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > I got any indication of the instrument recognizing the incoming 
> data 
> > was when the transmission failed and wiped out my patches. 
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > 
> > Mike Huggs
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >  __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>

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