HI there! I'm really you guys crossed my thread! Thanks again to take time to help me! To Jed and Andy, I will undo the R09 fix tomorrow, I'd like to start as well the Adjustment Procedure where there is some parts I don't understand at the very beginning of the procedure I should verify the power supply with the test point on the "J" ??? What are the J 's, are they some diodes? or resistances? And then ON the Reset Procedure there is something with a 52Ko resistance but I can't get to understand where i should put the legs on ? and for the MG "Calibration" I really need to use an Oscilloscope but I found there was some software equivalent. What do you think about them? I'll still look on ebay... I still did some tests with the buttons and knobs. Here the result: OUTPUT SECTION Volume : Ok Output SW : Ok TUNE SECTION Tune Knb : not sure VCO SECTION Octave : Ok Waveform selection : Ok PW\PWM : hard to say PWM Speed : hard to say too Sub Osc SW : Ok VCF SECTION Cutoff : No Resonance : No EG Intensity : No Keyboard Track : No VCA SECTION VCA Mode : Ok Attenuation : Ok ARPEGGIATOR SECTION Arpeggiator SW on/off : Ok Arpeggiator Speed : Ok Range SW : Ok Mode SW : Ok Latch SW : Ok MG SECTION Freq Diode : Yes but not sync with the Freq Knb Freq : No Delay : No Level : No MG Mode : Ok EG SECTION Attack : No Decay : No Sustain : No Release : No EFFECTS SECTION (Once again it's hard to say 'cause I hear the notes played only on the "top" of the modulation so it's hard to define phaser ensemble or chorus) FX Mode : Seems Ok Speed\Intensity : Hard to say BEND SECTION Bend Intensity : Ok WHEELS Bend Wheel : Ok MG Wheel : Ok KEY ASSIGN MODE SECTION Hold : Ok Chord Memory : Ok Unison : Ok Poly : Ok PROGRAMMER SECTION All the numbers work when pressed but can't hear the difference By the way thanks a lot for the Manual Service I found one on a website but yours is best! Looking forward for your answers Cheers! Vincent PS : ANDY I live in Paris where are you hiding? --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Jed Jorgensen <jed.jorgensen@...> wrote: > > Man, I'm way too impatient this morning. Andy just sent me a complete copy > of the manual. That is now up on my website. I'm also putting a copy in the > file section here. > > J > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Jed Jorgensen jed.jorgensen@...wrote: > > > Vincent, > > > > I've put a copy of the service manual on my webpage here: > > http://sites.google.com/site/jedjorgensen/klm367a/images/pcb-bugs-errors\ /manuals<https://sites.google.com/site/jedjorgensen/klm367a/images/pcb-b\ ugs-errors/manuals> > > > > > > <https://sites.google.com/site/jedjorgensen/klm367a/images/pcb-bugs-erro\ rs/manuals>This > > is not a complete copy of the manual, but it has the calibration procedure > > that you need to follow. The calibration procedure for the 367 board is on > > pages 10 and 11. > > > > Jed > > > > > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Jed Jorgensen jed.jorgensen@...wrote: > > > >> Hi Vincent, > >> > >> Yes, put R9 back and re-jumper the trace you cut. That modification isn't > >> recommended unless you have LFO noise present that can't be fixed by another > >> method. I've updated my website to make that clear. > >> > >> The calibration procedure on the VR's is necessary to make the board and > >> the P6 function correctly. You can begin parts of the procedure without an > >> oscilloscope, but as Andy noted you have to have one to do the job > >> correctly. > >> > >> Do you have a copy of the service manual? I'll put one on my website soon, > >> but I'm pretty sure it is in the files section at the yahoo groups page. > >> > >> Jed > >> > >> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:22 AM, kluberrrrr KLBR@... wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi Jed, > >>> > >>> first I'd like to thank you for what you did for the P6 itself and of > >>> course its users! Even if my P6 doesn't work yet I remain positive :) > >>> I also appreciate you fast answer! thanks! > >>> > >>> I fixed the R52 and R98 issues. I was hesitating by doing the last one ( > >>> lift the resistance 9 and cut the trace) I did it : unsoldering one leg of > >>> the R9 cut the trace and put a jumper between the CN 06 pin 02 and the > >>> unsoldered leg of the R09. > >>> > >>> No more sound at all !Well, I can hear on the background the modulation > >>> if i put the gain very high of the audio amp. The knobs on the MG panel > >>> remain unusable > >>> > >>> Before to did the fix, I was able to hear the notes played through the > >>> modulation generator which went in and out very slowly in any MG mod ( vca > >>> vcf )with a very normal volume. I'm sure that the sound is modulate because > >>> I can follow the MG led with the fade of the sound > >>> > >>> I don't have done the VR adjustments yet because I don't have any access > >>> to an oscilloscope. But I'm not sure it will change a lot. My first target > >>> is to have the sound back without the modulation on it . > >>> > >>> Should I put the R09 back and remove the jumper? and try something else? > >>> Or should I try to do the Don B. fix on the 368 board? > >>> > >>> Could the problem on my P6 come from another part? > >>> > >>> Cheers! > >>> > >>> Vincent > >>> > >>> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>, Jed > >>> Jorgensen jed.jorgensen@ wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Hi Vincent, > >>> > > >>> > Did you fix the two PCB errors noted here (#1 & #3): > >>> > > >>> https://sites.google.com/site/jedjorgensen/klm367a/images/pcb-bugs-error\ s > >>> > > >>> > < > >>> https://sites.google.com/site/jedjorgensen/klm367a/images/pcb-bugs-error\ s > >>> >Also, > >>> > did you calibrate the board following the build as per the service > >>> manual? > >>> > > >>> > Jed > >>> > > >>> > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:07 PM, kluberrrrr KLBR@ wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Hi everybody, > >>> > > > >>> > > I'm quite desperate here, so I hope someone could help me a bit > >>> especially > >>> > > because I'm not very good in English and I'm not an electronic guy! > >>> > > A couple of years ago I found a polysix which had the famous leak > >>> battery > >>> > > problem, so impossible to play on it. > >>> > > > >>> > > I tried to repair the KLM 367 but with no success. > >>> > > Then i discovered the Jed's project > >>> > > > >>> > > Today I've just finished to solder all the parts on the KLM-367A > >>> clone > >>> > > board. > >>> > > I put the board back on my P6. Then I turned it on. > >>> > > > >>> > > First, the programmer panel seems to work fine, Led button repond > >>> when I > >>> > > push them > >>> > > > >>> > > BUT there is no sound at all. Just some attack sound, some 'blops'. > >>> > > > >>> > > When I hold a key down, I can hear the note coming very slowly and > >>> fade > >>> > > out. Just like the LEd of the MG panel fading In and Out very slowly. > >>> > > > >>> > > The Mg frequency, delay and level's knobs don't affect the > >>> modulation. Even > >>> > > if the modulation level is at 0, the sound is fully modulated > >>> > > > >>> > > So I guess it's the MG section which seems to not work properly. It > >>> looks > >>> > > like it is stuck on a very slow frequency and there is no way to cut > >>> the > >>> > > modulation. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Also cutoff, resonance, eg int, keyboard track knobs don't seem to > >>> change > >>> > > the sound. > >>> > > > >>> > > When I built the new Jed's PCB, I used from the old board the mask > >>> rom IC, > >>> > > the TC5514APL-3 IC, the two LM13600 ICs and the 2SA798 > >>> > > > >>> > > What do you think? Is it possible that one of the Ic is dead? Or does > >>> it > >>> > > look like the problem is deeper? > >>> > > > >>> > > Please excuse my poor english ! > >>> > > > >>> > > Cheers! > >>> > > > >>> > > Vincent > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: MG section problem
2010-05-15 by kluberrrrr
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