I don't believe IC34 should be directly connected to the others. Double check the schematics for that. J On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:26 PM, tonezone020 <swamp.gigs@googlemail.com>wrote: > ** > > > Hi, > > I'd been following Old Crows instructions but didn't spot those two > diagrams Thanks for that, especially the see thru. > > Re IC24 IC26 and IC34 - all pins 5s are linked. > > The buttons are back except Bank D,Patch 4 and 8 - probably new tacts ? > > Patches no longer storing at the moment. > > Found dry joint on IC30 Pin 7... > > I'll follow the +5 thru and then test again. > > Best, > > Tone > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Jed Jorgensen <jed.jorgensen@...> wrote: > > > > oops -- meant to post this too: > > > http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_img.gif > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jed Jorgensen <jed.jorgensen@...>wrote: > > > > > > Crow's schematic can be a big help: > > > > > > > http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_schem.gif > > > > > > I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which > the > > > clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the > battery). > > > > > > j > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter M�rck <peterm@...>wrote: > > > > > >> ** > > > >> > > >> > > >> Damnit! > > >> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now > > >> there's > > >> another IC34 down in the lower right. > > >> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion... > > >> > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@...> > > >> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip > > >> > > >> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)? > > >> > > >> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5. > > >> > > >> jed > > >> > > >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020 > > >> <swamp.gigs@...>wrote: > > > >> > > >> > ** > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Hi Peter, > > >> > > > >> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 > pin > > >> 11 > > >> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and > > >> when > > >> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't. > > >> > > > >> > Any pointers to where to look ? > > >> > > > >> > Thanks > > >> > > > >> > Tone > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter M�rck <peterm@> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > Hi, > > >> > > > > >> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5: > > >> > > > > >> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother. > > >> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of > the > > >> > 8048 (IC22) ? > > >> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048. > > >> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother > doesn't > > >> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are > > >> connected > > >> > to the 8048 pin 11. > > >> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 > is > > >> > what you need. > > >> > > > > >> > > BR, > > >> > > Peter > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > > From: tonezone020 > > >> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM > > >> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Erm, > > >> > > > > >> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected > to > > >> IC32 > > >> > p2, 1, 17, 16 > > >> > > > > >> > > Cheers, > > >> > > > > >> > > Tony > > >> > > > > >> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Hi Don and Peter, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've > discovered > > >> > anomalies elsewhere... > > >> > > > > > >> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than > IC34 > > >> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is > connected > > >> to > > >> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16 > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Regards, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Tony > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not > pin 4. > > >> > Pin 4 > > >> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone > board > > >> > and an > > >> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Don B. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > _____ > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] > On > > >> > Behalf Of > > >> > > > > Peter M�rck > > >> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM > > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing. > > >> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just > show > > >> > how it's > > >> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied > to > > >> +5V > > >> > :) > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > By the way, > > >> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 > tied > > >> to > > >> > pin12 > > >> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V. > > >> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the > AND > > >> > gates has > > >> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other > > >> input > > >> > will > > >> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid > > >> > though and it > > >> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > BR, > > >> > > > > Peter > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > > > > From: tonezone020 > > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com > > > > >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM > > >> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Hi, > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem > like > > >> > there is > > >> > > > > one for the underside of the board ... > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Regards, > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Tony > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto: > PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> > > >> , > > >> > Peter > > >> > > > > M�rck <peterm@> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics? > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > BR, > > >> > > > > > Peter > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > > > > > From: tonezone020 > > >> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto: > PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> > > >> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM > > >> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Hi, > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks for your message. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but > with > > >> a > > >> > bit of > > >> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a > tiny > > >> bit > > >> > of > > >> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. > Do you > > >> > know if > > >> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the > > >> > > > > underneath > > >> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30... > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks, > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Tony > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto: > > >> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> > > >> > , > > >> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. 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Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
2012-07-24 by Jed Jorgensen
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