Discussion about the Korg PolySix synthesizer

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> Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@...> schreef:
> Hi All,
> 
> Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> 
> Many thanks in advance,
> 
> Tony
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: tonezone020 
  To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
  Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip


    
  Hi,

  Thanks for your message. 

  I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of coaxing the keys are now working.

  Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of success and Old Crow's advice from his site. 

  I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...

  Thanks,

  Tony

  --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, bastebraak <bastebraak@...> wrote:
  >
  > 
  > 
  > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
  > 
  > 
  > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@...> schreef:
  > Hi All,
  > 
  > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
  > 
  > Many thanks in advance,
  > 
  > Tony
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > ------------------------------------
  > 
  > Yahoo! Groups Links
  > 
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> Just compare with the schematics?
> 
> BR,
> Peter
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: tonezone020 
>   To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
>   Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> 
> 
>     
>   Hi,
> 
>   Thanks for your message. 
> 
>   I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of coaxing the keys are now working.
> 
>   Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of success and Old Crow's advice from his site. 
> 
>   I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> 
>   Thanks,
> 
>   Tony
> 
>   --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
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>   > 
>   > 
>   > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
>   > 
>   > 
>   > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
>   > Hi All,
>   > 
>   > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
>   > 
>   > Many thanks in advance,
>   > 
>   > Tony
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>   > Yahoo! Groups Links
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From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
tonezone020
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 7:46 PM
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip

 

  

Hi,

Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
one for the underside of the board ...

Regards,

Tony

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
Mörck <peterm@...> wrote:
>
> Just compare with the schematics?
> 
> BR,
> Peter
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: tonezone020 
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>  
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for your message. 
> 
> I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
coaxing the keys are now working.
> 
> Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
success and Old Crow's advice from his site. 
> 
> I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tony
> 
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on
my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > 
> > 
> > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or
alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > 
> > Many thanks in advance,
> > 
> > Tony
> > 
> > 
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> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: tonezone020 
  To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
  Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip


    
  Hi,

  Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is one for the underside of the board ...

  Regards,

  Tony

  --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@...> wrote:
  >
  > Just compare with the schematics?
  > 
  > BR,
  > Peter
  > 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: tonezone020 
  > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
  > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Hi,
  > 
  > Thanks for your message. 
  > 
  > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of coaxing the keys are now working.
  > 
  > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of success and Old Crow's advice from his site. 
  > 
  > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
  > 
  > Thanks,
  > 
  > Tony
  > 
  > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
  > >
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
  > > Hi All,
  > > 
  > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
  > > 
  > > Many thanks in advance,
  > > 
  > > Tony
  > > 
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  > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> Pins 1, 4, 10, 13, 14 are all connected together to +5vdc.
> 
>  
> 
> Don Backshall
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> tonezone020
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 7:46 PM
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
> one for the underside of the board ...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tony
> 
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
> M�rck <peterm@> wrote:
> >
> > Just compare with the schematics?
> > 
> > BR,
> > Peter
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: tonezone020 
> > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Thanks for your message. 
> > 
> > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
> coaxing the keys are now working.
> > 
> > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
> success and Old Crow's advice from his site. 
> > 
> > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
> this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
> circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Tony
> > 
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on
> my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > > Hi All,
> > > 
> > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or
> alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > > 
> > > Many thanks in advance,
> > > 
> > > Tony
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ------------------------------------
> > > 
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Peter Mörck
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip

 

  

You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show how it's
connected without actual physical constraints.

Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V :)

By the way,
I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to pin12
of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.

IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND gates has
one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input will
also appear on the output of that gate.

The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid though and it
is good if you do continuity testing around that area.

BR,
Peter

----- Original Message ----- 
From: tonezone020 
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip

Hi,

Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
one for the underside of the board ...

Regards,

Tony

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
Mörck <peterm@...> wrote:
>
> Just compare with the schematics?
> 
> BR,
> Peter
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: tonezone020 
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>  
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for your message. 
> 
> I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
coaxing the keys are now working.
> 
> Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
success and Old Crow's advice from his site. 
> 
> I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tony
> 
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on
my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > 
> > 
> > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or
alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > 
> > Many thanks in advance,
> > 
> > Tony
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
tonezone020
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:30 PM
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip

 

  

Hi Don,

That's very helpful.

I tested from pin 1 on IC31 across to the pins mentioned on both chips and
pin 4 in both are display differing resistances, whereas the others are
fine. Do you recommend bridging for to something in the chain ? 

I very much appreciate your help.

Best wishes,

Tony

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"backshall1" <backshall1@...> wrote:
>
> Pins 1, 4, 10, 13, 14 are all connected together to +5vdc.
> 
> 
> 
> Don Backshall
> 
> 
> 
> _____ 
> 
> From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
> tonezone020
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 7:46 PM
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there
is
> one for the underside of the board ...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tony
> 
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
> M�rck <peterm@> wrote:
> >
> > Just compare with the schematics?
> > 
> > BR,
> > Peter
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: tonezone020 
> > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Thanks for your message. 
> > 
> > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
> coaxing the keys are now working.
> > 
> > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
> success and Old Crow's advice from his site. 
> > 
> > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
> this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
> circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Tony
> > 
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts
on
> my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > > Hi All,
> > > 
> > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips
or
> alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > > 
> > > Many thanks in advance,
> > > 
> > > Tony
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ------------------------------------
> > > 
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
> Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4. Pin 4
> really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board and an
> old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> 
> Don B.
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Peter Mörck
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show how it's
> connected without actual physical constraints.
> 
> Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V :)
> 
> By the way,
> I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to pin12
> of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> 
> IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND gates has
> one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input will
> also appear on the output of that gate.
> 
> The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid though and it
> is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> 
> BR,
> Peter
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: tonezone020 
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>  
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
> one for the underside of the board ...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tony
> 
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
> Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> >
> > Just compare with the schematics?
> > 
> > BR,
> > Peter
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: tonezone020 
> > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Thanks for your message. 
> > 
> > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
> coaxing the keys are now working.
> > 
> > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
> success and Old Crow's advice from his site. 
> > 
> > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
> this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
> circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Tony
> > 
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on
> my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > > Hi All,
> > > 
> > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or
> alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > > 
> > > Many thanks in advance,
> > > 
> > > Tony
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ------------------------------------
> > > 
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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>
> Hi Don and Peter,
> 
> Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered anomalies elsewhere...
> 
> IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> 
> IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> 
> Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34 connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tony
> 
> 
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4. Pin 4
> > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board and an
> > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> > 
> > Don B.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >   _____  
> > 
> > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > Peter Mörck
> > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show how it's
> > connected without actual physical constraints.
> > 
> > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V :)
> > 
> > By the way,
> > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to pin12
> > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> > 
> > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND gates has
> > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input will
> > also appear on the output of that gate.
> > 
> > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid though and it
> > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> > 
> > BR,
> > Peter
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: tonezone020 
> > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
> > one for the underside of the board ...
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Tony
> > 
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
> > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just compare with the schematics?
> > > 
> > > BR,
> > > Peter
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: tonezone020 
> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your message. 
> > > 
> > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
> > coaxing the keys are now working.
> > > 
> > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
> > success and Old Crow's advice from his site. 
> > > 
> > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
> > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
> > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Tony
> > > 
> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on
> > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > > > Hi All,
> > > > 
> > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or
> > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > > > 
> > > > Many thanks in advance,
> > > > 
> > > > Tony
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > 
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
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> > 
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>

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: tonezone020 
  To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
  Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip


    
  Erm,

  Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16

  Cheers,

  Tony

  --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@...> wrote:
  >
  > Hi Don and Peter,
  > 
  > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered anomalies elsewhere...
  > 
  > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
  > 
  > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
  > 
  > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34 connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
  > 
  > Regards,
  > 
  > Tony
  > 
  > 
  > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
  > >
  > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4. Pin 4
  > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board and an
  > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
  > > 
  > > Don B.
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > _____ 
  > > 
  > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
  > > Peter Mörck
  > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
  > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
  > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
  > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show how it's
  > > connected without actual physical constraints.
  > > 
  > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V :)
  > > 
  > > By the way,
  > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to pin12
  > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
  > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
  > > 
  > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND gates has
  > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input will
  > > also appear on the output of that gate.
  > > 
  > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid though and it
  > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
  > > 
  > > BR,
  > > Peter
  > > 
  > > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > > From: tonezone020 
  > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> 
  > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
  > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
  > > 
  > > Hi,
  > > 
  > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
  > > one for the underside of the board ...
  > > 
  > > Regards,
  > > 
  > > Tony
  > > 
  > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
  > > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
  > > >
  > > > Just compare with the schematics?
  > > > 
  > > > BR,
  > > > Peter
  > > > 
  > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > > > From: tonezone020 
  > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> 
  > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
  > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
  > > > 
  > > > 
  > > > 
  > > > Hi,
  > > > 
  > > > Thanks for your message. 
  > > > 
  > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
  > > coaxing the keys are now working.
  > > > 
  > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
  > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site. 
  > > > 
  > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
  > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
  > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
  > > > 
  > > > Thanks,
  > > > 
  > > > Tony
  > > > 
  > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
  > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
  > > > >
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on
  > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
  > > > > Hi All,
  > > > > 
  > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or
  > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
  > > > > 
  > > > > Many thanks in advance,
  > > > > 
  > > > > Tony
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > ------------------------------------
  > > > > 
  > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  > > > >
  > > > 
  > > > 
  > > > 
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>
> Hi,
> 
> Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> 
> Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the 8048 (IC22) ?
> IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother doesn't necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are connected to the 8048 pin 11.
> So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is what you need.
> 
> BR,
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: tonezone020 
>   To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
>   Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> 
> 
>     
>   Erm,
> 
>   Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> 
>   Cheers,
> 
>   Tony
> 
>   --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Hi Don and Peter,
>   > 
>   > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered anomalies elsewhere...
>   > 
>   > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
>   > 
>   > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
>   > 
>   > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34 connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
>   > 
>   > Regards,
>   > 
>   > Tony
>   > 
>   > 
>   > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
>   > >
>   > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4. Pin 4
>   > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board and an
>   > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
>   > > 
>   > > Don B.
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > _____ 
>   > > 
>   > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
>   > > Peter Mörck
>   > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
>   > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
>   > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
>   > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show how it's
>   > > connected without actual physical constraints.
>   > > 
>   > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V :)
>   > > 
>   > > By the way,
>   > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to pin12
>   > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
>   > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
>   > > 
>   > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND gates has
>   > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input will
>   > > also appear on the output of that gate.
>   > > 
>   > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid though and it
>   > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
>   > > 
>   > > BR,
>   > > Peter
>   > > 
>   > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > > From: tonezone020 
>   > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> 
>   > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
>   > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>   > > 
>   > > Hi,
>   > > 
>   > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
>   > > one for the underside of the board ...
>   > > 
>   > > Regards,
>   > > 
>   > > Tony
>   > > 
>   > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
>   > > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
>   > > >
>   > > > Just compare with the schematics?
>   > > > 
>   > > > BR,
>   > > > Peter
>   > > > 
>   > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > > > From: tonezone020 
>   > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> 
>   > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
>   > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>   > > > 
>   > > > 
>   > > > 
>   > > > Hi,
>   > > > 
>   > > > Thanks for your message. 
>   > > > 
>   > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
>   > > coaxing the keys are now working.
>   > > > 
>   > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
>   > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site. 
>   > > > 
>   > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
>   > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
>   > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
>   > > > 
>   > > > Thanks,
>   > > > 
>   > > > Tony
>   > > > 
>   > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
>   > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
>   > > > >
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on
>   > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
>   > > > > Hi All,
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or
>   > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Many thanks in advance,
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Tony
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > ------------------------------------
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>   > > > >
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>

>
> Hi Peter,
> 
> I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 pin 11 , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and when the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
> 
> Any pointers to where to look ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Tone
> 
> 
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> > 
> > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the 8048 (IC22) ?
> > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother doesn't necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are connected to the 8048 pin 11.
> > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is what you need.
> > 
> > BR,
> > Peter
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: tonezone020 
> >   To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com 
> >   Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> >   Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > 
> > 
> >     
> >   Erm,
> > 
> >   Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> > 
> >   Cheers,
> > 
> >   Tony
> > 
> >   --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> >   >
> >   > Hi Don and Peter,
> >   > 
> >   > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered anomalies elsewhere...
> >   > 
> >   > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> >   > 
> >   > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> >   > 
> >   > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34 connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> >   > 
> >   > Regards,
> >   > 
> >   > Tony
> >   > 
> >   > 
> >   > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> >   > >
> >   > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4. Pin 4
> >   > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board and an
> >   > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> >   > > 
> >   > > Don B.
> >   > > 
> >   > > 
> >   > > 
> >   > > _____ 
> >   > > 
> >   > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> >   > > Peter Mörck
> >   > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> >   > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> >   > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >   > > 
> >   > > 
> >   > > 
> >   > > 
> >   > > 
> >   > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> >   > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show how it's
> >   > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> >   > > 
> >   > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V :)
> >   > > 
> >   > > By the way,
> >   > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to pin12
> >   > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> >   > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> >   > > 
> >   > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND gates has
> >   > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input will
> >   > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> >   > > 
> >   > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid though and it
> >   > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> >   > > 
> >   > > BR,
> >   > > Peter
> >   > > 
> >   > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   > > From: tonezone020 
> >   > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> 
> >   > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> >   > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >   > > 
> >   > > Hi,
> >   > > 
> >   > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
> >   > > one for the underside of the board ...
> >   > > 
> >   > > Regards,
> >   > > 
> >   > > Tony
> >   > > 
> >   > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
> >   > > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> >   > > >
> >   > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > BR,
> >   > > > Peter
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   > > > From: tonezone020 
> >   > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> 
> >   > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> >   > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > Hi,
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > Thanks for your message. 
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
> >   > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
> >   > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site. 
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
> >   > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
> >   > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > Thanks,
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > Tony
> >   > > > 
> >   > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> >   > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on
> >   > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> >   > > > > Hi All,
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or
> >   > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > Tony
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > ------------------------------------
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > 
> >   > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >   > > > >
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: tonezone020 
  To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:21 PM
  Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip


    
  Hi Peter,

  I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 pin 11 , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and when the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.

  Any pointers to where to look ?

  Thanks

  Tone

  --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@...> wrote:
  >
  > Hi,
  > 
  > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
  > 
  > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
  > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the 8048 (IC22) ?
  > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
  > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother doesn't necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are connected to the 8048 pin 11.
  > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is what you need.
  > 
  > BR,
  > Peter
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: tonezone020 
  > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
  > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Erm,
  > 
  > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
  > 
  > Cheers,
  > 
  > Tony
  > 
  > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
  > >
  > > Hi Don and Peter,
  > > 
  > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered anomalies elsewhere...
  > > 
  > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
  > > 
  > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
  > > 
  > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34 connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
  > > 
  > > Regards,
  > > 
  > > Tony
  > > 
  > > 
  > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
  > > >
  > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4. Pin 4
  > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board and an
  > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
  > > > 
  > > > Don B.
  > > > 
  > > > 
  > > > 
  > > > _____ 
  > > > 
  > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
  > > > Peter Mörck
  > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
  > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
  > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
  > > > 
  > > > 
  > > > 
  > > > 
  > > > 
  > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
  > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show how it's
  > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
  > > > 
  > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V :)
  > > > 
  > > > By the way,
  > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to pin12
  > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
  > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
  > > > 
  > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND gates has
  > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input will
  > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
  > > > 
  > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid though and it
  > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
  > > > 
  > > > BR,
  > > > Peter
  > > > 
  > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > > > From: tonezone020 
  > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> 
  > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
  > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
  > > > 
  > > > Hi,
  > > > 
  > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
  > > > one for the underside of the board ...
  > > > 
  > > > Regards,
  > > > 
  > > > Tony
  > > > 
  > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
  > > > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
  > > > >
  > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
  > > > > 
  > > > > BR,
  > > > > Peter
  > > > > 
  > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > > > > From: tonezone020 
  > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> 
  > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
  > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > Hi,
  > > > > 
  > > > > Thanks for your message. 
  > > > > 
  > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
  > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
  > > > > 
  > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
  > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site. 
  > > > > 
  > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
  > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
  > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
  > > > > 
  > > > > Thanks,
  > > > > 
  > > > > Tony
  > > > > 
  > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
  > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
  > > > > >
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on
  > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
  > > > > > Hi All,
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or
  > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > Tony
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > 
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: tonezone020 
  To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:42 PM
  Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip


    
  Hi again,

  Should IC31 and IC30 pins 7 be connected to each other ? Also, should pin 1 from both run to ground ? 

  As you can tell, I'm a complete novice trying to make sure about reading the schematics !

  I'm in the UK by the way. Where are you ?

  Regards,

  Tony

  --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@...> wrote:
  >
  > Hi Peter,
  > 
  > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 pin 11 , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and when the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
  > 
  > Any pointers to where to look ?
  > 
  > Thanks
  > 
  > Tone
  > 
  > 
  > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
  > >
  > > Hi,
  > > 
  > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
  > > 
  > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
  > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the 8048 (IC22) ?
  > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
  > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother doesn't necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are connected to the 8048 pin 11.
  > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is what you need.
  > > 
  > > BR,
  > > Peter
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > > From: tonezone020 
  > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com 
  > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
  > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Erm,
  > > 
  > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
  > > 
  > > Cheers,
  > > 
  > > Tony
  > > 
  > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
  > > >
  > > > Hi Don and Peter,
  > > > 
  > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered anomalies elsewhere...
  > > > 
  > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
  > > > 
  > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
  > > > 
  > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34 connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
  > > > 
  > > > Regards,
  > > > 
  > > > Tony
  > > > 
  > > > 
  > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
  > > > >
  > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4. Pin 4
  > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board and an
  > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
  > > > > 
  > > > > Don B.
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > _____ 
  > > > > 
  > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
  > > > > Peter Mörck
  > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
  > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
  > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
  > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show how it's
  > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
  > > > > 
  > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V :)
  > > > > 
  > > > > By the way,
  > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to pin12
  > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
  > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
  > > > > 
  > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND gates has
  > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input will
  > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
  > > > > 
  > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid though and it
  > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
  > > > > 
  > > > > BR,
  > > > > Peter
  > > > > 
  > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > > > > From: tonezone020 
  > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> 
  > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
  > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
  > > > > 
  > > > > Hi,
  > > > > 
  > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
  > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
  > > > > 
  > > > > Regards,
  > > > > 
  > > > > Tony
  > > > > 
  > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
  > > > > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
  > > > > >
  > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > BR,
  > > > > > Peter
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > > > > > From: tonezone020 
  > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> 
  > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
  > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > Hi,
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > Thanks for your message. 
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
  > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
  > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site. 
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
  > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
  > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > Thanks,
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > Tony
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
  > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > > 
  > > > > > > 
  > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on
  > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
  > > > > > > 
  > > > > > > 
  > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
  > > > > > > Hi All,
  > > > > > > 
  > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or
  > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
  > > > > > > 
  > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
  > > > > > > 
  > > > > > > Tony
  > > > > > > 
  > > > > > > 
  > > > > > > 
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  > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>
To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip


Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?

IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.

jed

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020 
<swamp.gigs@googlemail.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 pin 11
> , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and when
> the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
>
> Any pointers to where to look ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tone
>
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter M\ufffdrck <peterm@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> >
> > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the
> 8048 (IC22) ?
> > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother doesn't
> necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are connected
> to the 8048 pin 11.
> > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is
> what you need.
> >
> > BR,
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: tonezone020
> > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >
> >
> >
> > Erm,
> >
> > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32
> p2, 1, 17, 16
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Don and Peter,
> > >
> > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered
> anomalies elsewhere...
> > >
> > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> > >
> > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> > >
> > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34
> connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
> IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4.
> Pin 4
> > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board
> and an
> > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> > > >
> > > > Don B.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > > > Peter M\ufffdrck
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show
> how it's
> > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V
> :)
> > > >
> > > > By the way,
> > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to
> pin12
> > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> > > >
> > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND
> gates has
> > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input
> will
> > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> > > >
> > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid
> though and it
> > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> > > >
> > > > BR,
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: tonezone020
> > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like
> there is
> > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > > >
> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> Peter
> > > > M\ufffdrck <peterm@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> > > > >
> > > > > BR,
> > > > > Peter
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: tonezone020
> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your message.
> > > > >
> > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a
> bit of
> > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> > > > >
> > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit
> of
> > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> > > > >
> > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you
> know if
> > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the 
> > > > underneath
> > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> ,
> > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the
> contacts on
> > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact
> strips or
> > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tony
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>
To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip


oops -- meant to post this too:
http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_img.gif


On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jed Jorgensen 
<jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>wrote:

> Crow's schematic can be a big help:
>
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_schem.gif
>
> I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which the
> clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the battery).
>
> j
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter M\ufffdrck 
> <peterm@sunsetselection.com>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Damnit!
>> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now
>> there's
>> another IC34 down in the lower right.
>> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>
>> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>>
>> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?
>>
>> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.
>>
>> jed
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
>> <swamp.gigs@googlemail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > **
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Peter,
>> >
>> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 pin
>> 11
>> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and
>> when
>> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
>> >
>> > Any pointers to where to look ?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Tone
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter M\ufffdrck <peterm@...> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
>> > >
>> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
>> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the
>> > 8048 (IC22) ?
>> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
>> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother 
>> > > doesn't
>> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are
>> connected
>> > to the 8048 pin 11.
>> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is
>> > what you need.
>> > >
>> > > BR,
>> > > Peter
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: tonezone020
>> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
>> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Erm,
>> > >
>> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
>> IC32
>> > p2, 1, 17, 16
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > >
>> > > Tony
>> > >
>> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
>> > > >
>> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered
>> > anomalies elsewhere...
>> > > >
>> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
>> > > >
>> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
>> > > >
>> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34
>> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected
>> to
>> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > Tony
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 
>> > > > > 4.
>> > Pin 4
>> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone 
>> > > > > board
>> > and an
>> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Don B.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > _____
>> > > > >
>> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On
>> > Behalf Of
>> > > > > Peter M\ufffdrck
>> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
>> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
>> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show
>> > how it's
>> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to
>> +5V
>> > :)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > By the way,
>> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied
>> to
>> > pin12
>> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
>> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND
>> > gates has
>> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other
>> input
>> > will
>> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid
>> > though and it
>> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > BR,
>> > > > > Peter
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > From: tonezone020
>> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
>> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hi,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem 
>> > > > > like
>> > there is
>> > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Regards,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Tony
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
>> ,
>> > Peter
>> > > > > M\ufffdrck <peterm@> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > BR,
>> > > > > > Peter
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > From: tonezone020
>> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
>> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks for your message.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with
>> a
>> > bit of
>> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny
>> bit
>> > of
>> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do 
>> > > > > > you
>> > know if
>> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
>> > > > > underneath
>> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Tony
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
>> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > ,
>> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the
>> > contacts on
>> > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@>
>> schreef:
>> > > > > > > Hi All,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact
>> > strips or
>> > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Tony
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > ------------------------------------
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
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>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
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>
> oops -- meant to post this too:
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_img.gif
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jed Jorgensen <jed.jorgensen@...>wrote:
> 
> > Crow's schematic can be a big help:
> >
> > http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_schem.gif
> >
> > I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which the
> > clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the battery).
> >
> > j
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter Mörck <peterm@...>wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Damnit!
> >> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now
> >> there's
> >> another IC34 down in the lower right.
> >> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@...>
> >> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >>
> >> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?
> >>
> >> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.
> >>
> >> jed
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
> >> <swamp.gigs@...>wrote:
> >>
> >> > **
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi Peter,
> >> >
> >> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 pin
> >> 11
> >> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and
> >> when
> >> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
> >> >
> >> > Any pointers to where to look ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Tone
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> >> > >
> >> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> >> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the
> >> > 8048 (IC22) ?
> >> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> >> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother doesn't
> >> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are
> >> connected
> >> > to the 8048 pin 11.
> >> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is
> >> > what you need.
> >> > >
> >> > > BR,
> >> > > Peter
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: tonezone020
> >> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> >> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Erm,
> >> > >
> >> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
> >> IC32
> >> > p2, 1, 17, 16
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheers,
> >> > >
> >> > > Tony
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered
> >> > anomalies elsewhere...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34
> >> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected
> >> to
> >> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Tony
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4.
> >> > Pin 4
> >> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board
> >> > and an
> >> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Don B.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > _____
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On
> >> > Behalf Of
> >> > > > > Peter Mörck
> >> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> >> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show
> >> > how it's
> >> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to
> >> +5V
> >> > :)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > By the way,
> >> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied
> >> to
> >> > pin12
> >> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> >> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND
> >> > gates has
> >> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other
> >> input
> >> > will
> >> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid
> >> > though and it
> >> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > BR,
> >> > > > > Peter
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: tonezone020
> >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> >> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like
> >> > there is
> >> > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Regards,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Tony
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> ,
> >> > Peter
> >> > > > > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > BR,
> >> > > > > > Peter
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > From: tonezone020
> >> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> >> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks for your message.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with
> >> a
> >> > bit of
> >> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny
> >> bit
> >> > of
> >> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you
> >> > know if
> >> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
> >> > > > > underneath
> >> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Tony
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> >> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > ,
> >> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the
> >> > contacts on
> >> > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@>
> >> schreef:
> >> > > > > > > Hi All,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact
> >> > strips or
> >> > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Tony
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
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> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "james meagher" <w.james.meagher@gmail.com>
To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip


I believe that this is the most clear, complete and up to date Polysix
service manual on the web:
http://www.synfo.nl/servicemanuals/Korg/POLYSIX_SERVICE_MANUAL.pdf

Hope it helps!
James



On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Peter M\ufffdrck 
<peterm@sunsetselection.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Oh, nice :)
> Thanks for that.
>
> Right, now listen to Jed, he knows better ;)
> Sorry for the confusion but I was only looking at the old scanned
> schematics, and they're obviously full off mistakes...
>
>
> BR,
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>
> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>
> oops -- meant to post this too:
>
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_img.gif
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jed Jorgensen
> <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Crow's schematic can be a big help:
> >
> >
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_schem.gif
> >
> > I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which the
> > clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the
> battery).
> >
> > j
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter M\ufffdrck
> > <peterm@sunsetselection.com>wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Damnit!
> >> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now
> >> there's
> >> another IC34 down in the lower right.
> >> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>
> >> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >>
> >> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?
> >>
> >> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.
> >>
> >> jed
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
> >> <swamp.gigs@googlemail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >> > **
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi Peter,
> >> >
> >> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 
> >> > pin
> >> 11
> >> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and
> >> when
> >> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
> >> >
> >> > Any pointers to where to look ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Tone
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter M\ufffdrck <peterm@...> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> >> > >
> >> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> >> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of 
> >> > > the
> >> > 8048 (IC22) ?
> >> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> >> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother
> >> > > doesn't
> >> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are
> >> connected
> >> > to the 8048 pin 11.
> >> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 
> >> > > is
> >> > what you need.
> >> > >
> >> > > BR,
> >> > > Peter
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: tonezone020
> >> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> >> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Erm,
> >> > >
> >> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
> >> IC32
> >> > p2, 1, 17, 16
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheers,
> >> > >
> >> > > Tony
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered
> >> > anomalies elsewhere...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than 
> >> > > > IC34
> >> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is 
> >> > connected
> >> to
> >> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Tony
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin
> >> > > > > 4.
> >> > Pin 4
> >> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone
> >> > > > > board
> >> > and an
> >> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Don B.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > _____
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com]
> On
> >> > Behalf Of
> >> > > > > Peter M\ufffdrck
> >> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> >> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just
> show
> >> > how it's
> >> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to
> >> +5V
> >> > :)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > By the way,
> >> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4
> tied
> >> to
> >> > pin12
> >> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> >> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the 
> >> > > > > AND
> >> > gates has
> >> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other
> >> input
> >> > will
> >> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid
> >> > though and it
> >> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > BR,
> >> > > > > Peter
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: tonezone020
> >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> >> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem
> >> > > > > like
> >> > there is
> >> > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Regards,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Tony
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> ,
> >> > Peter
> >> > > > > M\ufffdrck <peterm@> wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > BR,
> >> > > > > > Peter
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > From: tonezone020
> >> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com
> >
> >> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> >> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks for your message.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but
> with
> >> a
> >> > bit of
> >> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a 
> >> > > > > > tiny
> >> bit
> >> > of
> >> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do
> >> > > > > > you
> >> > know if
> >> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
> >> > > > > underneath
> >> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Tony
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> >> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > ,
> >> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed 
> >> > > > > > > the
> >> > contacts on
> >> > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@>
> >> schreef:
> >> > > > > > > Hi All,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble
> contact
> >> > strips or
> >> > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Tony
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------
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> >> > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> >> > > > > > >
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> >> > > > > > >
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R3G 1X4
(204) 918 9317


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>
> It may be, but it still has the same errors on KLM-367 we have just been 
> discussing :)
> Thanks anyway. Looks like a good scan.
> 
> BR,
> Peter
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "james meagher" <w.james.meagher@...>
> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> 
> 
> I believe that this is the most clear, complete and up to date Polysix
> service manual on the web:
> http://www.synfo.nl/servicemanuals/Korg/POLYSIX_SERVICE_MANUAL.pdf
> 
> Hope it helps!
> James
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Peter Mörck 
> <peterm@...>wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Oh, nice :)
> > Thanks for that.
> >
> > Right, now listen to Jed, he knows better ;)
> > Sorry for the confusion but I was only looking at the old scanned
> > schematics, and they're obviously full off mistakes...
> >
> >
> > BR,
> > Peter
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@...>
> > To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >
> > oops -- meant to post this too:
> >
> > http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_img.gif
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jed Jorgensen
> > <jed.jorgensen@...>wrote:
> >
> > > Crow's schematic can be a big help:
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_schem.gif
> > >
> > > I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which the
> > > clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the
> > battery).
> > >
> > > j
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter Mörck
> > > <peterm@...>wrote:
> > >
> > >> **
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Damnit!
> > >> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now
> > >> there's
> > >> another IC34 down in the lower right.
> > >> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@...>
> > >> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >>
> > >> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?
> > >>
> > >> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.
> > >>
> > >> jed
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
> > >> <swamp.gigs@...>wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > **
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi Peter,
> > >> >
> > >> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 
> > >> > pin
> > >> 11
> > >> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and
> > >> when
> > >> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
> > >> >
> > >> > Any pointers to where to look ?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> >
> > >> > Tone
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Hi,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> > >> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of 
> > >> > > the
> > >> > 8048 (IC22) ?
> > >> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> > >> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother
> > >> > > doesn't
> > >> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are
> > >> connected
> > >> > to the 8048 pin 11.
> > >> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 
> > >> > > is
> > >> > what you need.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > BR,
> > >> > > Peter
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > From: tonezone020
> > >> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> > >> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Erm,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
> > >> IC32
> > >> > p2, 1, 17, 16
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Cheers,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Tony
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered
> > >> > anomalies elsewhere...
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than 
> > >> > > > IC34
> > >> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is 
> > >> > connected
> > >> to
> > >> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Regards,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Tony
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin
> > >> > > > > 4.
> > >> > Pin 4
> > >> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone
> > >> > > > > board
> > >> > and an
> > >> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Don B.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > _____
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com]
> > On
> > >> > Behalf Of
> > >> > > > > Peter Mörck
> > >> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > >> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just
> > show
> > >> > how it's
> > >> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to
> > >> +5V
> > >> > :)
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > By the way,
> > >> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4
> > tied
> > >> to
> > >> > pin12
> > >> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > >> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the 
> > >> > > > > AND
> > >> > gates has
> > >> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other
> > >> input
> > >> > will
> > >> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid
> > >> > though and it
> > >> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > BR,
> > >> > > > > Peter
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > > > From: tonezone020
> > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > >> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Hi,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem
> > >> > > > > like
> > >> > there is
> > >> > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Regards,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Tony
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> > PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> ,
> > >> > Peter
> > >> > > > > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > BR,
> > >> > > > > > Peter
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > > > > From: tonezone020
> > >> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > >> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Hi,
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Thanks for your message.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but
> > with
> > >> a
> > >> > bit of
> > >> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a 
> > >> > > > > > tiny
> > >> bit
> > >> > of
> > >> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do
> > >> > > > > > you
> > >> > know if
> > >> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
> > >> > > > > underneath
> > >> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Tony
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> > >> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > ,
> > >> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed 
> > >> > > > > > > the
> > >> > contacts on
> > >> > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@>
> > >> schreef:
> > >> > > > > > > Hi All,
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble
> > contact
> > >> > strips or
> > >> > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Tony
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
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> -- 
> C'est La Guerre Moving Pictures Inc.
> 364 Home Street
> Winnipeg, Manitoba
> R3G 1X4
> (204) 918 9317
> 
> 
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From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
tonezone020
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:01 PM
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip

 

  

Hi,

Yes, I think the top IC34 could be IC24 re the scan.

At the moment a lot of the synth seems to be working. The main problem area
seems to be in saving patch changes. If I save any EG changes I can recall
it. Sub Osc and Octave store too.

Any other changes - MG, VCO, VCF, Effects and Key Assign Mode work but don't
get stored.

Any pointers as to what might be happening there ?

Regards...

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
Mörck <peterm@...> wrote:
>
> It may be, but it still has the same errors on KLM-367 we have just been 
> discussing :)
> Thanks anyway. Looks like a good scan.
> 
> BR,
> Peter
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "james meagher" <w.james.meagher@...>
> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> >
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> 
> 
> I believe that this is the most clear, complete and up to date Polysix
> service manual on the web:
> http://www.synfo.nl/servicemanuals/Korg/POLYSIX_SERVICE_MANUAL.pdf
> 
> Hope it helps!
> James
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Peter Mörck 
> <peterm@...>wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Oh, nice :)
> > Thanks for that.
> >
> > Right, now listen to Jed, he knows better ;)
> > Sorry for the confusion but I was only looking at the old scanned
> > schematics, and they're obviously full off mistakes...
> >
> >
> > BR,
> > Peter
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@...>
> > To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >
> > oops -- meant to post this too:
> >
> >
http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_img.gi
f
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jed Jorgensen
> > <jed.jorgensen@...>wrote:
> >
> > > Crow's schematic can be a big help:
> > >
> > >
> >
http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_
schem.gif
> > >
> > > I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which
the
> > > clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the
> > battery).
> > >
> > > j
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter Mörck
> > > <peterm@...>wrote:
> > >
> > >> **
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Damnit!
> > >> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now
> > >> there's
> > >> another IC34 down in the lower right.
> > >> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@...>
> > >> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >>
> > >> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?
> > >>
> > >> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.
> > >>
> > >> jed
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
> > >> <swamp.gigs@...>wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > **
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi Peter,
> > >> >
> > >> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 
> > >> > pin
> > >> 11
> > >> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches
and
> > >> when
> > >> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
> > >> >
> > >> > Any pointers to where to look ?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> >
> > >> > Tone
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
Peter Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Hi,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> > >> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of 
> > >> > > the
> > >> > 8048 (IC22) ?
> > >> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> > >> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother
> > >> > > doesn't
> > >> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are
> > >> connected
> > >> > to the 8048 pin 11.
> > >> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5

> > >> > > is
> > >> > what you need.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > BR,
> > >> > > Peter
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > From: tonezone020
> > >> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> > >> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Erm,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected
to
> > >> IC32
> > >> > p2, 1, 17, 16
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Cheers,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Tony
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've
discovered
> > >> > anomalies elsewhere...
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than 
> > >> > > > IC34
> > >> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is 
> > >> > connected
> > >> to
> > >> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Regards,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Tony
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not
pin
> > >> > > > > 4.
> > >> > Pin 4
> > >> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone
> > >> > > > > board
> > >> > and an
> > >> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Don B.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > _____
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>  [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> > On
> > >> > Behalf Of
> > >> > > > > Peter Mörck
> > >> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > >> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just
> > show
> > >> > how it's
> > >> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied
to
> > >> +5V
> > >> > :)
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > By the way,
> > >> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4
> > tied
> > >> to
> > >> > pin12
> > >> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > >> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the 
> > >> > > > > AND
> > >> > gates has
> > >> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the
other
> > >> input
> > >> > will
> > >> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery
acid
> > >> > though and it
> > >> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > BR,
> > >> > > > > Peter
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > > > From: tonezone020
> > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>  <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > >> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Hi,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem
> > >> > > > > like
> > >> > there is
> > >> > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Regards,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Tony
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>  <mailto:
> > PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> ,
> > >> > Peter
> > >> > > > > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > BR,
> > >> > > > > > Peter
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > > > > From: tonezone020
> > >> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>  <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > >> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Hi,
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Thanks for your message.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but
> > with
> > >> a
> > >> > bit of
> > >> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a 
> > >> > > > > > tiny
> > >> bit
> > >> > of
> > >> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected.
Do
> > >> > > > > > you
> > >> > know if
> > >> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
> > >> > > > > underneath
> > >> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Tony
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>  <mailto:
> > >> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > ,
> > >> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed 
> > >> > > > > > > the
> > >> > contacts on
> > >> > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@>
> > >> schreef:
> > >> > > > > > > Hi All,
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble
> > contact
> > >> > strips or
> > >> > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Tony
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
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 From: "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@googlemail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 3:28 AM
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip

       

Hi,

Yes, I think the top IC34 could be IC24 re the scan.

At the moment a lot of the synth seems to be working. The main problem area seems to be in saving patch changes. If I save any EG changes I can recall it. Sub Osc and Octave store too.

Any other changes - MG, VCO, VCF, Effects and Key Assign Mode work but don't get stored.

Any pointers as to what might be happening there ?

Regards...

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@...> wrote:
>
> It may be, but it still has the same errors on KLM-367 we have just been 
> discussing :)
> Thanks anyway. Looks like a good scan.
> 
> BR,
> Peter
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "james meagher" <w.james.meagher@...>
> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> 
> 
> I believe that this is the most clear, complete and up to date Polysix
> service manual on the web:
> http://www.synfo.nl/servicemanuals/Korg/POLYSIX_SERVICE_MANUAL.pdf
> 
> Hope it helps!
> James
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Peter Mörck 
> <peterm@...>wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Oh, nice :)
> > Thanks for that.
> >
> > Right, now listen to Jed, he knows better ;)
> > Sorry for the confusion but I was only looking at the old scanned
> > schematics, and they're obviously full off mistakes...
> >
> >
> > BR,
> > Peter
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@...>
> > To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >
> > oops -- meant to post this too:
> >
> > http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_img.gif
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jed Jorgensen
> > <jed.jorgensen@...>wrote:
> >
> > > Crow's schematic can be a big help:
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_schem.gif
> > >
> > > I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which the
> > > clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the
> > battery).
> > >
> > > j
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter Mörck
> > > <peterm@...>wrote:
> > >
> > >> **
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Damnit!
> > >> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now
> > >> there's
> > >> another IC34 down in the lower right.
> > >> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@...>
> > >> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >>
> > >> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?
> > >>
> > >> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.
> > >>
> > >> jed
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
> > >> <swamp.gigs@...>wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > **
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi Peter,
> > >> >
> > >> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 
> > >> > pin
> > >> 11
> > >> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and
> > >> when
> > >> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
> > >> >
> > >> > Any pointers to where to look ?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> >
> > >> > Tone
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Hi,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> > >> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of 
> > >> > > the
> > >> > 8048 (IC22) ?
> > >> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> > >> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother
> > >> > > doesn't
> > >> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are
> > >> connected
> > >> > to the 8048 pin 11.
> > >> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 
> > >> > > is
> > >> > what you need.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > BR,
> > >> > > Peter
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > From: tonezone020
> > >> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> > >> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Erm,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
> > >> IC32
> > >> > p2, 1, 17, 16
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Cheers,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Tony
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered
> > >> > anomalies elsewhere...
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than 
> > >> > > > IC34
> > >> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is 
> > >> > connected
> > >> to
> > >> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Regards,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Tony
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin
> > >> > > > > 4.
> > >> > Pin 4
> > >> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone
> > >> > > > > board
> > >> > and an
> > >> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Don B.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > _____
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com]
> > On
> > >> > Behalf Of
> > >> > > > > Peter Mörck
> > >> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > >> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just
> > show
> > >> > how it's
> > >> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to
> > >> +5V
> > >> > :)
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > By the way,
> > >> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4
> > tied
> > >> to
> > >> > pin12
> > >> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > >> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the 
> > >> > > > > AND
> > >> > gates has
> > >> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other
> > >> input
> > >> > will
> > >> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid
> > >> > though and it
> > >> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > BR,
> > >> > > > > Peter
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > > > From: tonezone020
> > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > >> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Hi,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem
> > >> > > > > like
> > >> > there is
> > >> > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Regards,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Tony
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> > PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> ,
> > >> > Peter
> > >> > > > > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > BR,
> > >> > > > > > Peter
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > > > > From: tonezone020
> > >> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > >> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Hi,
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Thanks for your message.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but
> > with
> > >> a
> > >> > bit of
> > >> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a 
> > >> > > > > > tiny
> > >> bit
> > >> > of
> > >> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do
> > >> > > > > > you
> > >> > know if
> > >> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
> > >> > > > > underneath
> > >> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Tony
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
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> > >> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
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> > >> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed 
> > >> > > > > > > the
> > >> > contacts on
> > >> > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@>
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> > >> > > > > > > Hi All,
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble
> > contact
> > >> > strips or
> > >> > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Tony
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>
> hi,
> 
> If a setting works, as in you can create a sound and it works as expected, but somewhere between saving and recalling the patch something goes wrong, I bet you have problems with memory access.
> IC32 is the memory.
> 
> Check for continuity between the IC22 pins 12-15 pins to IC32 pins 11-14 respectively.
> Those are the 4 databits.
> 
> Also, check for continuity between pins 1,2,10,11 of both IC24+IC26 to IC32 pins 1,2,3,4,6,7,16,17 respectively.
> You have to look at the schematics to see which pins should connect to which.
> Also, check for continuity between IC22 pin 21 to IC32 pin 5.
> As well as IC22 pin 22 to IC32 pin 15.
> Those are the address bits.
> 
> There's some more logic around the memory control lines but at least start with those :)
> 
> BR,
> Peter
> 
> ----------------------------------------
>  From: "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 3:28 AM
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> 
>        
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, I think the top IC34 could be IC24 re the scan.
> 
> At the moment a lot of the synth seems to be working. The main problem area seems to be in saving patch changes. If I save any EG changes I can recall it. Sub Osc and Octave store too.
> 
> Any other changes - MG, VCO, VCF, Effects and Key Assign Mode work but don't get stored.
> 
> Any pointers as to what might be happening there ?
> 
> Regards...
> 
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter M�rck <peterm@> wrote:
> >
> > It may be, but it still has the same errors on KLM-367 we have just been 
> > discussing :)
> > Thanks anyway. Looks like a good scan.
> > 
> > BR,
> > Peter
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "james meagher" <w.james.meagher@>
> > To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > 
> > 
> > I believe that this is the most clear, complete and up to date Polysix
> > service manual on the web:
> > http://www.synfo.nl/servicemanuals/Korg/POLYSIX_SERVICE_MANUAL.pdf
> > 
> > Hope it helps!
> > James
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Peter M�rck 
> > <peterm@>wrote:
> > 
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh, nice :)
> > > Thanks for that.
> > >
> > > Right, now listen to Jed, he knows better ;)
> > > Sorry for the confusion but I was only looking at the old scanned
> > > schematics, and they're obviously full off mistakes...
> > >
> > >
> > > BR,
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@>
> > > To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:43 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >
> > > oops -- meant to post this too:
> > >
> > > http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_img.gif
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jed Jorgensen
> > > <jed.jorgensen@>wrote:
> > >
> > > > Crow's schematic can be a big help:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_schem.gif
> > > >
> > > > I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which the
> > > > clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the
> > > battery).
> > > >
> > > > j
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter M�rck
> > > > <peterm@>wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> **
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Damnit!
> > > >> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now
> > > >> there's
> > > >> another IC34 down in the lower right.
> > > >> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@>
> > > >> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >>
> > > >> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?
> > > >>
> > > >> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.
> > > >>
> > > >> jed
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
> > > >> <swamp.gigs@>wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > **
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hi Peter,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 
> > > >> > pin
> > > >> 11
> > > >> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and
> > > >> when
> > > >> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Any pointers to where to look ?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Tone
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter M�rck <peterm@> wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Hi,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> > > >> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of 
> > > >> > > the
> > > >> > 8048 (IC22) ?
> > > >> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> > > >> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother
> > > >> > > doesn't
> > > >> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are
> > > >> connected
> > > >> > to the 8048 pin 11.
> > > >> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 
> > > >> > > is
> > > >> > what you need.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > BR,
> > > >> > > Peter
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > > From: tonezone020
> > > >> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> > > >> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Erm,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
> > > >> IC32
> > > >> > p2, 1, 17, 16
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Cheers,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Tony
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered
> > > >> > anomalies elsewhere...
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than 
> > > >> > > > IC34
> > > >> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is 
> > > >> > connected
> > > >> to
> > > >> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Regards,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Tony
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin
> > > >> > > > > 4.
> > > >> > Pin 4
> > > >> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone
> > > >> > > > > board
> > > >> > and an
> > > >> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Don B.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > _____
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com]
> > > On
> > > >> > Behalf Of
> > > >> > > > > Peter M�rck
> > > >> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > > >> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just
> > > show
> > > >> > how it's
> > > >> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to
> > > >> +5V
> > > >> > :)
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > By the way,
> > > >> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4
> > > tied
> > > >> to
> > > >> > pin12
> > > >> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > > >> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the 
> > > >> > > > > AND
> > > >> > gates has
> > > >> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other
> > > >> input
> > > >> > will
> > > >> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid
> > > >> > though and it
> > > >> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > BR,
> > > >> > > > > Peter
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > > > > From: tonezone020
> > > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > > >> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Hi,
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem
> > > >> > > > > like
> > > >> > there is
> > > >> > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Regards,
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Tony
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> > > PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >> ,
> > > >> > Peter
> > > >> > > > > M�rck <peterm@> wrote:
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > BR,
> > > >> > > > > > Peter
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > > > > > From: tonezone020
> > > >> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > > >> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Hi,
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Thanks for your message.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but
> > > with
> > > >> a
> > > >> > bit of
> > > >> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a 
> > > >> > > > > > tiny
> > > >> bit
> > > >> > of
> > > >> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do
> > > >> > > > > > you
> > > >> > know if
> > > >> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
> > > >> > > > > underneath
> > > >> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Tony
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> > > >> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >> > ,
> > > >> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed 
> > > >> > > > > > > the
> > > >> > contacts on
> > > >> > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@>
> > > >> schreef:
> > > >> > > > > > > Hi All,
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble
> > > contact
> > > >> > strips or
> > > >> > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > Tony
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On 2013-02-16 07:30, klosmon wrote:
> I'm currently repairing a battery-damaged CPU board, and I've just about
> got everything working again -- except for the LFO bleedthrough into the
> VCO modulation circuit.
>
> I've repaired over three dozen of these things the past few years, and
> come across this problem repeatedly.
> I was able to solve it several times in the past by cutting the circuit
> board trace at CNO6-2 and at the outside end of R9, and joining them
> with a jumper (taking care to move C43 back into the circuit).  This
> bypassed the parts of the circuit board that caused the LFO signal to
> bleed into the modulation circuit even when the mod wheel was fully down.
>
> In the case of this board, however, that procedure isn't helping --
> there's still LFO modulation audible on the VCO (and visible on the
> scope at R9).   I though it might be something from the other LFO mod
> path from the front panel mod switch (through ICs 1 and 2, finally
> through R11), but grounding that signal doesn't stop the mod effect.
> And, it's only appearing at the VCO mod circuit;  no sign of it at the
> VCF or VCA.
>
> Thinking it might be something on the front panel, I swapped in a
> working CPU board, and the problem went away;  obviously the fault is in
> the first CPU board.
>
> My eyes are starting to blur going over these schematics;  has anyone
> here dealt with this problem successfully?
> If so, I'd love to hear about it.
>
> Thanks.
> ~GMM
>
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From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
klosmon
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 1:31 AM
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PolySix] LFO problems again

 

  

I'm currently repairing a battery-damaged CPU board, and I've just about 
got everything working again -- except for the LFO bleedthrough into the 
VCO modulation circuit.

I've repaired over three dozen of these things the past few years, and 
come across this problem repeatedly.
I was able to solve it several times in the past by cutting the circuit 
board trace at CNO6-2 and at the outside end of R9, and joining them 
with a jumper (taking care to move C43 back into the circuit). This 
bypassed the parts of the circuit board that caused the LFO signal to 
bleed into the modulation circuit even when the mod wheel was fully down.

In the case of this board, however, that procedure isn't helping -- 
there's still LFO modulation audible on the VCO (and visible on the 
scope at R9). I though it might be something from the other LFO mod 
path from the front panel mod switch (through ICs 1 and 2, finally 
through R11), but grounding that signal doesn't stop the mod effect. 
And, it's only appearing at the VCO mod circuit; no sign of it at the 
VCF or VCA.

Thinking it might be something on the front panel, I swapped in a 
working CPU board, and the problem went away; obviously the fault is in 
the first CPU board.

My eyes are starting to blur going over these schematics; has anyone 
here dealt with this problem successfully?
If so, I'd love to hear about it.

Thanks.
~GMM





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On 2/16/2013 12:10 AM, Terje Winther wrote:
> The problem is usually at the CPU board, and is caused by battery-
> leakage damage, just as you describe.
> There are lots of board traces that run across the board and through
> via-holes, and often I find that there is faults at the via-holes, and
> also where baord traces cross board sides through IC legs. Sometimes
> far from where the battery is.
> I just had a P6 in with the same problem. Swapped out some 40xx logic
> chips and repaired/strapped the traces, and the problem went away.
> I often find several 40xx chips failing to pass (some of) the digital
> control signals, and this can cause all kinds of strange behaviour
> from major failures to tiny details.
>
>
>
> Den 16. feb.. 2013 kl. 07.30 skrev klosmon:
>
>> I'm currently repairing a battery-damaged CPU board, and I've just
>> about
>> got everything working again -- except for the LFO bleedthrough into
>> the
>> VCO modulation circuit.
>>
>> I've repaired over three dozen of these things the past few years, and
>> come across this problem repeatedly.
>> I was able to solve it several times in the past by cutting the
>> circuit
>> board trace at CNO6-2 and at the outside end of R9, and joining them
>> with a jumper (taking care to move C43 back into the circuit). This
>> bypassed the parts of the circuit board that caused the LFO signal to
>> bleed into the modulation circuit even when the mod wheel was fully
>> down.
>>
>> In the case of this board, however, that procedure isn't helping --
>> there's still LFO modulation audible on the VCO (and visible on the
>> scope at R9). I though it might be something from the other LFO mod
>> path from the front panel mod switch (through ICs 1 and 2, finally
>> through R11), but grounding that signal doesn't stop the mod effect.
>> And, it's only appearing at the VCO mod circuit; no sign of it at the
>> VCF or VCA.
>>
>> Thinking it might be something on the front panel, I swapped in a
>> working CPU board, and the problem went away; obviously the fault is
>> in
>> the first CPU board.
>>
>> My eyes are starting to blur going over these schematics; has anyone
>> here dealt with this problem successfully?
>> If so, I'd love to hear about it.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> ~GMM
>>
>

From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
klosmon
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:38 PM
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PolySix] LFO problems again

 

  

On 2/16/2013 5:31 AM, backshall1 wrote:
>
> I've had a couple where I had to remove the connector header from the 
> board,
> clean the bottom of the header and the board, then solder it back on. That
> was a real pain but it fixed the problem when doing the jumper didn't 
> help.
> Apparently there was some leakage from pin 1 to pin 2 of CN06 
> underneath the
> header.
>
> Don Backshall
>
On this unit, CN06 (and the area underneath) was so badly corroded that 
I removed it entirely and hardwired the data and address lines. The 
wires for Mod and LFO are wired directly to the board at R9 and R25; 
the traces from the CN06 area have been cut completely to remove any 
possible influence.

~G
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>  
> [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>  ] On 
> Behalf Of
> klosmon
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 1:31 AM
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>  
> Subject: [PolySix] LFO problems again
>
> I'm currently repairing a battery-damaged CPU board, and I've just about
> got everything working again -- except for the LFO bleedthrough into the
> VCO modulation circuit.
>
> I've repaired over three dozen of these things the past few years, and
> come across this problem repeatedly.
> I was able to solve it several times in the past by cutting the circuit
> board trace at CNO6-2 and at the outside end of R9, and joining them
> with a jumper (taking care to move C43 back into the circuit). This
> bypassed the parts of the circuit board that caused the LFO signal to
> bleed into the modulation circuit even when the mod wheel was fully down.
>
> In the case of this board, however, that procedure isn't helping --
> there's still LFO modulation audible on the VCO (and visible on the
> scope at R9). I though it might be something from the other LFO mod
> path from the front panel mod switch (through ICs 1 and 2, finally
> through R11), but grounding that signal doesn't stop the mod effect.
> And, it's only appearing at the VCO mod circuit; no sign of it at the
> VCF or VCA.
>
> Thinking it might be something on the front panel, I swapped in a
> working CPU board, and the problem went away; obviously the fault is in
> the first CPU board.
>
> My eyes are starting to blur going over these schematics; has anyone
> here dealt with this problem successfully?
> If so, I'd love to hear about it.
>
> Thanks.
> ~GMM
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 

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> I've had a couple where I had to remove the connector header from the board,
> clean the bottom of the header and the board, then solder it back on. That
> was a real pain but it fixed the problem when doing the jumper didn't help.
> Apparently there was some leakage from pin 1 to pin 2 of CN06 underneath the
> header.