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2009-11-11 by oseite
Hello, I did not use my Poly6 for some years. When I want to use the Poly6 now, I have to turn the power on and wait for about 4 hours. The Polysix has to "warm up" otherwise the sound is bad. How can I repair it? Thanks Oliver
2009-11-11 by Jim
First open it up and check for battery leakage.
----- Original Message -----
From: oseite
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:30 AM
Subject: [PolySix] Help! My Polysix needs to warm up for 4 hours
Hello,
I did not use my Poly6 for some years. When I want to use the Poly6 now, I have to turn the power on and wait for about 4 hours. The Polysix has to "warm up" otherwise the sound is bad.
How can I repair it?
Thanks
Oliver
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2009-11-11 by oseite
I think the battery is allright. It looks fine and the saved sounds work (after warming up - 4 hours). Any other ideas? --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <jbgange@...> wrote:
> > First open it up and check for battery leakage. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: oseite > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:30 AM > Subject: [PolySix] Help! My Polysix needs to warm up for 4 hours > > > > Hello, > > I did not use my Poly6 for some years. When I want to use the Poly6 now, I have to turn the power on and wait for about 4 hours. The Polysix has to "warm up" otherwise the sound is bad. > How can I repair it? > > Thanks > > Oliver > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2009-11-11 by Andrew Jury
Oliver, When you say it 'sounds bad' what do you mean? Out of tune, dysfunctional, distorted, etc? It is common for a 'board of this vintage to take around 30 minutes to 'warm up', but 4 hours? Could be lots of things wrong I can think of. If you can describe how the instrument sounds after say 15 minutes on from cold? Perhaps even make a recording and post it. That would be a great help! Cheers, Andy
From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of oseite Sent: 11 November 2009 22:08 To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PolySix] Re: Help! My Polysix needs to warm up for 4 hours I think the battery is allright. It looks fine and the saved sounds work (after warming up - 4 hours). Any other ideas? --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , "Jim" <jbgange@...> wrote: > > First open it up and check for battery leakage. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: oseite > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:30 AM > Subject: [PolySix] Help! My Polysix needs to warm up for 4 hours > > > > Hello, > > I did not use my Poly6 for some years. When I want to use the Poly6 now, I have to turn the power on and wait for about 4 hours. The Polysix has to "warm up" otherwise the sound is bad. > How can I repair it? > > Thanks > > Oliver > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2009-11-11 by Dave Garfield
Hi! If your Polysix still has the original big blue Varta Ni-Cad battery on the main processor board, it NEEDS to be changed, ASAP. Those batteries are Time Bombs, waiting to corrode and spill nasty corrosive gunk all over the processor board. It often eats traces where the damage can't be readily seen, and can even work its way onto the pins of nearby ICs and corrode them, too. This is a rather common problem with synths of the early '80's, when Ni-Cad batteries were the norm for memory backup, so this advice applies to most synths of that vintage (EEWWW, there's that "V" word!). Anyway, most of us would Highly recommend changing that battery first. Sorry, but as far as the long warm-up time goes, I don't have any ideas to help you out. Someone on this list should have some valuable suggestions, though - we're a good bunch here! ;-) All the best, Dave Garfield ________________________________
From: oseite <oseite@yahoo.com>
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 3:07:51 PM
Subject: [PolySix] Re: Help! My Polysix needs to warm up for 4 hours
I think the battery is allright. It looks fine and the saved sounds work (after warming up - 4 hours).
Any other ideas?
--- In PolySix@yahoogroups .com, "Jim" <jbgange@... > wrote:
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> First open it up and check for battery leakage.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: oseite
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:30 AM
> Subject: [PolySix] Help! My Polysix needs to warm up for 4 hours
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> Hello,
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> I did not use my Poly6 for some years. When I want to use the Poly6 now, I have to turn the power on and wait for about 4 hours. The Polysix has to "warm up" otherwise the sound is bad.
> How can I repair it?
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> Thanks
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> Oliver
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2009-11-15 by oseite
Andy, you find the file "warming up Polysix.zip" in the "Files" folder. I recorded some different programs. cheers Oliver --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Jury" <andy@...> wrote:
> > Oliver, > > > > When you say it 'sounds bad' what do you mean? Out of tune, dysfunctional, > distorted, etc? It is common for a 'board of this vintage to take around 30 > minutes to 'warm up', but 4 hours? Could be lots of things wrong I can think > of. If you can describe how the instrument sounds after say 15 minutes on > from cold? Perhaps even make a recording and post it. That would be a great > help! > > > > Cheers, > > Andy > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > oseite > Sent: 11 November 2009 22:08 > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Help! My Polysix needs to warm up for 4 hours > > > > > > I think the battery is allright. It looks fine and the saved sounds work > (after warming up - 4 hours). > Any other ideas? > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , "Jim" > <jbgange@> wrote: > > > > First open it up and check for battery leakage. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: oseite > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:30 AM > > Subject: [PolySix] Help! My Polysix needs to warm up for 4 hours > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I did not use my Poly6 for some years. When I want to use the Poly6 now, I > have to turn the power on and wait for about 4 hours. The Polysix has to > "warm up" otherwise the sound is bad. > > How can I repair it? > > > > Thanks > > > > Oliver > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2009-11-15 by oseite
Hi! Yes, my Polysix has the original blue Varta Ni-Cad battery. I will change it next weekend. I recorded some different programs. You find the file "warming up Polysix.zip" in the "Files" folder. Thanks Oliver --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Dave Garfield <daveogarf@...> wrote:
> > Hi! > > > If your Polysix still has the original big blue Varta Ni-Cad battery on the main processor board, it NEEDS to be changed, ASAP. Those batteries are Time Bombs, waiting to corrode and spill nasty corrosive gunk all over the processor board. It often eats traces where the damage can't be readily seen, and can even work its way onto the pins of nearby ICs and corrode them, too. >  > This is a rather common problem with synths of the early '80's, when Ni-Cad batteries were the norm for memory backup, so this advice applies to most synths of that vintage (EEWWW, there's that "V" word!). Anyway, most of us would Highly recommend changing that battery first. >  > Sorry, but as far as the long warm-up time goes, I don't have any ideas to help you out. Someone on this list should have some valuable suggestions, though - we're a good bunch here! ;-) >  > All the best, > Dave Garfield > > > > ________________________________ > From: oseite <oseite@...> > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 3:07:51 PM > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Help! My Polysix needs to warm up for 4 hours > >  > I think the battery is allright. It looks fine and the saved sounds work (after warming up - 4 hours). > Any other ideas? > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups .com, "Jim" <jbgange@ > wrote: > > > > First open it up and check for battery leakage. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: oseite > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups .com > > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:30 AM > > Subject: [PolySix] Help! My Polysix needs to warm up for 4 hours > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I did not use my Poly6 for some years. When I want to use the Poly6 now, I have to turn the power on and wait for about 4 hours. The Polysix has to "warm up" otherwise the sound is bad. > > How can I repair it? > > > > Thanks > > > > Oliver > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2009-11-15 by Andrew Jury
Hi Oliver, Do you have or know someone who owns an oscilloscope? I have just downloaded your files and listened to them. As an example I picked the 'cold' file and the '180 minute' file. The third phrase into the file you play a nice saw tooth waveform which is very clean when examined closely. However, the cold version of the same waveform is superimposed with some terrible noise. When you run the noise through a spectrum analyser you can see the contents have equal amplitude throughout the audible range of frequencies. My initial thoughts were that you might have a problem with the power supply, but you would then either get audible hum or harmonic noise at either 50/60Hz intervals down the spectrum. This noise looks and sounds like the kind of racket generated by digital circuits when they are not decoupled properly. If you can lay your hand on a scope attach it to the +5V rail on the KLM-367 and see how clean the supply is when cold. Then check the coupling electrolytics. Others in the group might have their own ideas, but like has been said, before you do anything else, de-solder the memory backup battery before it leaks! Cheers, Andy
From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of oseite Sent: 15 November 2009 16:24 To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PolySix] Re: Help! My Polysix needs to warm up for 4 hours Andy, you find the file "warming up Polysix.zip" in the "Files" folder. I recorded some different programs. cheers Oliver --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , "Andrew Jury" <andy@...> wrote: > > Oliver, > > > > When you say it 'sounds bad' what do you mean? Out of tune, dysfunctional, > distorted, etc? It is common for a 'board of this vintage to take around 30 > minutes to 'warm up', but 4 hours? Could be lots of things wrong I can think > of. If you can describe how the instrument sounds after say 15 minutes on > from cold? Perhaps even make a recording and post it. That would be a great > help! > > > > Cheers, > > Andy > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of > oseite > Sent: 11 November 2009 22:08 > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Help! My Polysix needs to warm up for 4 hours > > > > > > I think the battery is allright. It looks fine and the saved sounds work > (after warming up - 4 hours). > Any other ideas? > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , "Jim" > <jbgange@> wrote: > > > > First open it up and check for battery leakage. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: oseite > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:30 AM > > Subject: [PolySix] Help! My Polysix needs to warm up for 4 hours > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I did not use my Poly6 for some years. When I want to use the Poly6 now, I > have to turn the power on and wait for about 4 hours. The Polysix has to > "warm up" otherwise the sound is bad. > > How can I repair it? > > > > Thanks > > > > Oliver > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2009-11-18 by oseite
Hi Andy, unfortunately, I have no Oscilloscope. Yesterday I have developed the blue Varta battery and have soldered a substitute. That took me 5 minutes. I am surprised that the programmes are still stored. Now the Polysix needs approx. 45 minutes until it sounds well. I will keep it powerd on for one day, so that the new accumulator loads. On the week-end I make one more test and tell you more. Thank you already for the help Many greetings Oliver --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Jury" <andy@...> wrote:
> > Hi Oliver, > > > > Do you have or know someone who owns an oscilloscope? I have just downloaded > your files and listened to them. As an example I picked the 'cold' file and > the '180 minute' file. The third phrase into the file you play a nice saw > tooth waveform which is very clean when examined closely. However, the cold > version of the same waveform is superimposed with some terrible noise. When > you run the noise through a spectrum analyser you can see the contents have > equal amplitude throughout the audible range of frequencies. My initial > thoughts were that you might have a problem with the power supply, but you > would then either get audible hum or harmonic noise at either 50/60Hz > intervals down the spectrum. This noise looks and sounds like the kind of > racket generated by digital circuits when they are not decoupled properly. > If you can lay your hand on a scope attach it to the +5V rail on the KLM-367 > and see how clean the supply is when cold. Then check the coupling > electrolytics. Others in the group might have their own ideas, but like has > been said, before you do anything else, de-solder the memory backup battery > before it leaks! > > > > Cheers, > > Andy > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > oseite > Sent: 15 November 2009 16:24 > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Help! My Polysix needs to warm up for 4 hours > > > > > > Andy, > > you find the file "warming up Polysix.zip" in the "Files" folder. > I recorded some different programs. > > cheers > > Oliver > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , "Andrew > Jury" <andy@> wrote: > > > > Oliver, > > > > > > > > When you say it 'sounds bad' what do you mean? Out of tune, dysfunctional, > > distorted, etc? It is common for a 'board of this vintage to take around > 30 > > minutes to 'warm up', but 4 hours? Could be lots of things wrong I can > think > > of. If you can describe how the instrument sounds after say 15 minutes on > > from cold? Perhaps even make a recording and post it. That would be a > great > > help! > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ] On > Behalf Of > > oseite > > Sent: 11 November 2009 22:08 > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Help! My Polysix needs to warm up for 4 hours > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the battery is allright. It looks fine and the saved sounds work > > (after warming up - 4 hours). > > Any other ideas? > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , "Jim" > > <jbgange@> wrote: > > > > > > First open it up and check for battery leakage. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: oseite > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:30 AM > > > Subject: [PolySix] Help! My Polysix needs to warm up for 4 hours > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I did not use my Poly6 for some years. When I want to use the Poly6 now, > I > > have to turn the power on and wait for about 4 hours. The Polysix has to > > "warm up" otherwise the sound is bad. > > > How can I repair it? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Oliver > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2009-11-19 by John Terhorst
This company is selling a universal midi retrofit unit.
Looks interesting!
http://highlyliquid.com/kits/umr/
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2009-11-20 by Bas te Braak
Is this one compatible with the Polysix? it's not in the list yet. Still thinking of getting the one from the Chech website. > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com > From: john_terhorst@yahoo.com > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:36:21 -0800 > Subject: [PolySix] This looks interesting for Midi for Polysix > > This company is selling a universal midi retrofit unit. > > Looks interesting! > > http://highlyliquid.com/kits/umr/ > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > PolySix "Digiest" Page: http://www.acc.umu.se/~amber/Poly6Yahoo! Groups Links > > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2009-11-20 by Paul
I went to the forums for this device via a link on the site you posted. There is a topic about the Mono/Poly there: http://forum.highlyliquid.com/showthread.php?s=2aa7dafad14c85f998cc2bf0ee000fef&t=45 It seems that he is having some problems getting it to work properly with that keyboard, which from what I understand is similar to the Polysix? --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Bas te Braak <bastebraak@...> wrote:
> > > Is this one compatible with the Polysix? it's not in the list yet. > > > > Still thinking of getting the one from the Chech website. > > > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com > > From: john_terhorst@... > > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:36:21 -0800 > > Subject: [PolySix] This looks interesting for Midi for Polysix > > > > This company is selling a universal midi retrofit unit. > > > > Looks interesting! > > > > http://highlyliquid.com/kits/umr/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > PolySix "Digiest" Page: http://www.acc.umu.se/~amber/Poly6Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2009-11-20 by John Terhorst
Interesting. I saw this reciently thought it might be useful in miding polysix but it looks like it is not there yet. thanks --john --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Paul <pchorostecki@rogers.com> wrote:
From: Paul <pchorostecki@rogers.com>
Subject: [PolySix] Re: This looks interesting for Midi for Polysix
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 11:37 AM
I went to the forums for this device via a link on the site you posted. There is a topic about the Mono/Poly there:
http://forum. highlyliquid. com/showthread. php?s=2aa7dafad1 4c85f998cc2bf0ee 000fef&t= 45
It seems that he is having some problems getting it to work properly with that keyboard, which from what I understand is similar to the Polysix?
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