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Re: Nothing but "nd"

2009-10-22 by edo_arengi

Hi!

I just joined this group. Today I got an used 2002 and unfortunately I have problems with the floppy drive. But istead of getting the "nD" message I get again and again a bliking "Lh" message. If I i.e. choose to format a floppy I put into the drive, the drive gives a spin, the red light lights for 1 second or so and I get that "Lh" on the screen.

Any idea?

Thank you!

Edo



--- In prophet2000@yahoogroups.com, Rob Miller <dpc318@...> wrote:
>
> Well, I replaced the 7406 buffer chip between the floppy controller and 
> the drive, and while the individual logic is better on the chip, it
> did not resolve my "nD" issue.
> 
> My drive seems to be spinning all the time while a disk is in it,
> with the red LED on.  Is this normal?  I don't remember.
> 
> Rob
> 
> Henrik wrote:
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> > It was a temporary problem on mine. Now it works again.
> > 
> > --- On *Tue, 10/13/09, Rob Miller /<dpc318@...>/* wrote:
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> >     From: Rob Miller <dpc318@...>
> >     Subject: Re: [prophet2000] Re: Nothing but "nd"
> >     To: prophet2000@yahoogroups.com
> >     Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 3:03 AM
> > 
> >      
> > 
> >     Well, I might be making some progress. There's a "buffer" chip, a 7406,
> >     that's identified as U201. It sits between the floppy controller and
> >     the header P202. On two of the hex inverted pairs they don't seem to
> >     be inverting the signals. Namely, pins 1/2 and 3/4.
> > 
> >     Does anyone have a clean copy of the schematics? I'm having a hard
> >     time ready what each of the pins do on the online version. This is
> >     on what appears to be drawing SD 2000-2.
> > 
> >     This is a very inexpensive part, so I might just pull it, socket
> >     a new one, and try.
> > 
> >     Rob
> > 
> >     Henrik wrote:
> >      > Same problem here too.
> >      >
> >      > --- On Thu, 10/8/09, j. aaron <tomkah@yahoo. com
> >     </mc/compose?to=tomkah%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
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> >      > From: j. aaron <tomkah@yahoo. com
> >     </mc/compose?to=tomkah%40yahoo.com>>
> >      > Subject: Re: [prophet2000] Re: Nothing but "nd"
> >      > To: prophet2000@ yahoogroups. com
> >     </mc/compose?to=prophet2000%40yahoogroups.com>
> >      > Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:51 PM
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> >      > ive experienced this same problem
> >      >
> >      > the original 2002 drive died, so i picked up a suitable
> >     replacement on ebay
> >      >
> >      > making sure the jumpers were correctly aligned
> >      >
> >      > same thing, ...drive powers up, disc takes a spin and then 'nd'
> >      >
> >      > since that drive only cost me $10, i decided id try buying another
> >      >
> >      > suitable replacement off ebay (different model than the first),
> >     that i also jumper configured correctly and got the the same result
> >     ...'nd'
> >      >
> >      > i tried switching things around a bit but sort of gave up on it
> >     at that point
> >      >
> >      > im still over $40 ahead of the $70 whine country wanted for a new
> >     one,
> >      >
> >      > so i figured eventually ill try getting another one off ebay sometime
> >      >
> >      > and repeat the process, but i really couldnt find a reason why
> >     those drives werent functioning
> >      >
> >      > this discussion has rekindled my interest in getting my 2002
> >     going again
> >      >
> >      > i put a ton of work into sampling back in the late 80's/early 90's
> >      >
> >      > and id like to revisit some of those sounds
> >      >
> >      > ...heres hoping help arrives!
> >      >
> >      > -yeller
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > --- On Thu, 10/8/09, Rob Miller <dpc318@sbcglobal. net> wrote:
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >> From: Rob Miller <dpc318@sbcglobal. net>
> >      >
> >      >> Subject: Re: [prophet2000] Re: Nothing but "nd"
> >      >
> >      >> To: prophet2000@ yahoogroups. com
> >      >
> >      >> Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 12:06 PM
> >      >
> >      >> I didn't change the jumper on the
> >      >
> >      >> factory drive that selects DS0, and
> >      >
> >      >> the replacement from WC doesn't have any. The power
> >      >
> >      >> cord has to flip
> >      >
> >      >> between the stock and the replacement (and the
> >      >
> >      >> replacement instructions
> >      >
> >      >> indicate so). I have flipped back and forth the data
> >      >
> >      >> cable, since there
> >      >
> >      >> is no real keying to it.
> >      >
> >      >> I hope it's not the driver chip. I can replace
> >      >
> >      >> it, but it should would
> >      >
> >      >> be easier not to. The drive spins up on power up, but
> >      >
> >      >> doesn't seem to
> >      >
> >      >> seek when I try to move data to/from it.
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >> I'll keep poking around and see if I can get the right
> >      >
> >      >> combo working
> >      >
> >      >> now. I appreciate the forum's help!
> >      >
> >      >> Rob
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >> duncan wrote:
> >      >
> >      >>> have you got the jumpers in the right place on the
> >      >
> >      >> drives? I hope when you say "flipped" you don't mean
> >      >
> >      >> "reversed".. .. I killed a floppy drive doing this by
> >      >
> >      >> accident.
> >      >
> >      >>> the floppy disc driver chip is fairly standard, I
> >      >
> >      >> think, but would be a tricky job to replace....
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >>> I have the boards from my 2000, which had a dead
> >      >
> >      >> keyboard controller (which WC couldn't help with- it was a
> >      >
> >      >> custom IC)... let me see if I can locate anything useful on
> >      >
> >      >> them for you, & let me know how you get on. I have to
> >      >
> >      >> strip some bits off them for another forum member whose
> >      >
> >      >> patience must be running out by now.... :-/ I've been a bit
> >      >
> >      >> busy this year....
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >>> --- In prophet2000@ yahoogroups. com,
> >      >
> >      >> Rob Miller <dpc318@> wrote:
> >      >
> >      >>>> I'm hoping I can get some help here....
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >>>> My 2000 is now running 4.3b with a brand new
> >      >
> >      >> drive...but it STILL
> >      >
> >      >>>> gives me "nd" (no disk) whenever I try to do
> >      >
> >      >> anything with the
> >      >
> >      >>>> drive. I can't read factory disks on power
> >      >
> >      >> up, nor can I load
> >      >
> >      >>>> single sounds, and I can't format a disk. I
> >      >
> >      >> get the same "nd"
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> >      >>>> every time.
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >>>> I've flipped the drive cable, and now have two
> >      >
> >      >> drives (original
> >      >
> >      >>>> and WineCountry new one) and they perform the
> >      >
> >      >> same.
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> >      >>>> Rob
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