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Re: [prophet2000] Re: Nothing but "nd"

2009-10-22 by Rob Miller

Edo,

I was able to disassemble my original drive and carefully clean the
transport rod that the head goes on.  It was full of dried lubricant,
acting like glue.

Rob

edo_arengi wrote:
> Hi all!
> 
> It's me again! I found some info regarding my problem searching the forum: "Lh" means "locked head" so my floppy drive is probably gone.
> What a great forum! I am happy to have a Prophet VS and now this new 2002, I hope to get it up and running :-)
> 
> Edo
> 
>  
> 
> --- In prophet2000@yahoogroups.com, "edo_arengi" <edoardo.arengi@...> wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I just joined this group. Today I got an used 2002 and unfortunately I have problems with the floppy drive. But istead of getting the "nD" message I get again and again a bliking "Lh" message. If I i.e. choose to format a floppy I put into the drive, the drive gives a spin, the red light lights for 1 second or so and I get that "Lh" on the screen.
>>
>> Any idea?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Edo
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In prophet2000@yahoogroups.com, Rob Miller <dpc318@> wrote:
>>> Well, I replaced the 7406 buffer chip between the floppy controller and 
>>> the drive, and while the individual logic is better on the chip, it
>>> did not resolve my "nD" issue.
>>>
>>> My drive seems to be spinning all the time while a disk is in it,
>>> with the red LED on.  Is this normal?  I don't remember.
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> Henrik wrote:
>>>>  
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>>>> It was a temporary problem on mine. Now it works again.
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Tue, 10/13/09, Rob Miller /<dpc318@>/* wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     From: Rob Miller <dpc318@>
>>>>     Subject: Re: [prophet2000] Re: Nothing but "nd"
>>>>     To: prophet2000@yahoogroups.com
>>>>     Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 3:03 AM
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>     Well, I might be making some progress. There's a "buffer" chip, a 7406,
>>>>     that's identified as U201. It sits between the floppy controller and
>>>>     the header P202. On two of the hex inverted pairs they don't seem to
>>>>     be inverting the signals. Namely, pins 1/2 and 3/4.
>>>>
>>>>     Does anyone have a clean copy of the schematics? I'm having a hard
>>>>     time ready what each of the pins do on the online version. This is
>>>>     on what appears to be drawing SD 2000-2.
>>>>
>>>>     This is a very inexpensive part, so I might just pull it, socket
>>>>     a new one, and try.
>>>>
>>>>     Rob
>>>>
>>>>     Henrik wrote:
>>>>      > Same problem here too.
>>>>      >
>>>>      > --- On Thu, 10/8/09, j. aaron <tomkah@yahoo. com
>>>>     </mc/compose?to=tomkah%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>>      >
>>>>      > From: j. aaron <tomkah@yahoo. com
>>>>     </mc/compose?to=tomkah%40yahoo.com>>
>>>>      > Subject: Re: [prophet2000] Re: Nothing but "nd"
>>>>      > To: prophet2000@ yahoogroups. com
>>>>     </mc/compose?to=prophet2000%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>      > Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:51 PM
>>>>      >
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>>>>      >
>>>>      > ive experienced this same problem
>>>>      >
>>>>      > the original 2002 drive died, so i picked up a suitable
>>>>     replacement on ebay
>>>>      >
>>>>      > making sure the jumpers were correctly aligned
>>>>      >
>>>>      > same thing, ...drive powers up, disc takes a spin and then 'nd'
>>>>      >
>>>>      > since that drive only cost me $10, i decided id try buying another
>>>>      >
>>>>      > suitable replacement off ebay (different model than the first),
>>>>     that i also jumper configured correctly and got the the same result
>>>>     ...'nd'
>>>>      >
>>>>      > i tried switching things around a bit but sort of gave up on it
>>>>     at that point
>>>>      >
>>>>      > im still over $40 ahead of the $70 whine country wanted for a new
>>>>     one,
>>>>      >
>>>>      > so i figured eventually ill try getting another one off ebay sometime
>>>>      >
>>>>      > and repeat the process, but i really couldnt find a reason why
>>>>     those drives werent functioning
>>>>      >
>>>>      > this discussion has rekindled my interest in getting my 2002
>>>>     going again
>>>>      >
>>>>      > i put a ton of work into sampling back in the late 80's/early 90's
>>>>      >
>>>>      > and id like to revisit some of those sounds
>>>>      >
>>>>      > ...heres hoping help arrives!
>>>>      >
>>>>      > -yeller
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      > --- On Thu, 10/8/09, Rob Miller <dpc318@sbcglobal. net> wrote:
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> From: Rob Miller <dpc318@sbcglobal. net>
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> Subject: Re: [prophet2000] Re: Nothing but "nd"
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> To: prophet2000@ yahoogroups. com
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 12:06 PM
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> I didn't change the jumper on the
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> factory drive that selects DS0, and
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> the replacement from WC doesn't have any. The power
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> cord has to flip
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> between the stock and the replacement (and the
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> replacement instructions
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> indicate so). I have flipped back and forth the data
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> cable, since there
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> is no real keying to it.
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> I hope it's not the driver chip. I can replace
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> it, but it should would
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> be easier not to. The drive spins up on power up, but
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> doesn't seem to
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> seek when I try to move data to/from it.
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> I'll keep poking around and see if I can get the right
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> combo working
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> now. I appreciate the forum's help!
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> Rob
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> duncan wrote:
>>>>      >
>>>>      >>> have you got the jumpers in the right place on the
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> drives? I hope when you say "flipped" you don't mean
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> "reversed".. .. I killed a floppy drive doing this by
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> accident.
>>>>      >
>>>>      >>> the floppy disc driver chip is fairly standard, I
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> think, but would be a tricky job to replace....
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      >>> I have the boards from my 2000, which had a dead
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> keyboard controller (which WC couldn't help with- it was a
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> custom IC)... let me see if I can locate anything useful on
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> them for you, & let me know how you get on. I have to
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> strip some bits off them for another forum member whose
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> patience must be running out by now.... :-/ I've been a bit
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> busy this year....
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      >>> --- In prophet2000@ yahoogroups. com,
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> Rob Miller <dpc318@> wrote:
>>>>      >
>>>>      >>>> I'm hoping I can get some help here....
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      >>>> My 2000 is now running 4.3b with a brand new
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> drive...but it STILL
>>>>      >
>>>>      >>>> gives me "nd" (no disk) whenever I try to do
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> anything with the
>>>>      >
>>>>      >>>> drive. I can't read factory disks on power
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> up, nor can I load
>>>>      >
>>>>      >>>> single sounds, and I can't format a disk. I
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> get the same "nd"
>>>>      >
>>>>      >>>> every time.
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      >>>> I've flipped the drive cable, and now have two
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> drives (original
>>>>      >
>>>>      >>>> and WineCountry new one) and they perform the
>>>>      >
>>>>      >> same.
>>>>      >
>>>>      >
>>>>      >>>> Rob
>>>>      >
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