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Help me,
i've got a p2k whithout system on it!!!
Could you make a copy of the system operator disk to make it work!!
Thanks

The p2k OS is kept on ROM, not floppy.

Sounds like you have a dead machine?

ac

strangemp500 wrote:

> Help me,
> i've got a p2k whithout system on it!!!
> Could you make a copy of the system operator disk to make it work!!
> Thanks
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Is there a way to reactivate it, or do i need to replace this ROM?
And where could i find one???
Thx

--- In prophet2000@y..., andrew <lists@f...> wrote:
> The p2k OS is kept on ROM, not floppy.
> 
> Sounds like you have a dead machine?
> 
> ac
> 
> strangemp500 wrote:
> > Help me,
> > i've got a p2k whithout system on it!!!
> > Could you make a copy of the system operator disk to make it 
work!!
> > Thanks
> > 
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www.winecountrysequential.com

What makes you thing it's the OS thats missing?

ac

strangemp500 wrote:

> Is there a way to reactivate it, or do i need to replace this ROM?
> And where could i find one???
> Thx
> 
> --- In prophet2000@y..., andrew <lists@f...> wrote:
> 
>>The p2k OS is kept on ROM, not floppy.
>>
>>Sounds like you have a dead machine?
>>
>>ac
>>
>>strangemp500 wrote:
>>
>>>Help me,
>>>i've got a p2k whithout system on it!!!
>>>Could you make a copy of the system operator disk to make it 
>>
> work!!
> 
>>>Thanks
>>>
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strangemp500 wrote:
> Is there a way to reactivate it, or do i need to replace this ROM?
> And where could i find one???

WCS (www.winecountrysequential.com) sell a ROM upgrade, which fixes 
several issues with the old ROMs as well. However, I consider it 
extremely unlikely that your ROM has gone bad - ROM chips are about the 
least likely part in a computer to go bad. It is far more likely that 
some other part has failed. What exactly is happening if you power on?

Sevo

i thought there was a diagnostics disk?

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "andrew" <lists@...>
To: <prophet2000@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [prophet2000] Operator system DISK!!!


> The p2k OS is kept on ROM, not floppy.
> 
> Sounds like you have a dead machine?

There is.

trout wrote:

> i thought there was a diagnostics disk?
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "andrew" <lists@...>
> To: <prophet2000@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [prophet2000] Operator system DISK!!!
> 
> 
> 
>>The p2k OS is kept on ROM, not floppy.
>>
>>Sounds like you have a dead machine?
> 
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Could you upload this diagnostic disk 'cause i don't have it
Thanx

--- In prophet2000@y..., andrew <lists@f...> wrote:
> There is.
> 
> trout wrote:
> > i thought there was a diagnostics disk?
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "andrew" <lists@f...>
> > To: <prophet2000@y...>
> > Subject: Re: [prophet2000] Operator system DISK!!!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>The p2k OS is kept on ROM, not floppy.
> >>
> >>Sounds like you have a dead machine?
> > 
> > 
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If if i had it to upload there is no way of reading or writing p2k disks from a PC or MAC.

strangemp500 wrote:

> Could you upload this diagnostic disk 'cause i don't have it
> Thanx
> 
> --- In prophet2000@y..., andrew <lists@f...> wrote:
> 
>>There is.
>>
>>trout wrote:
>>
>>>i thought there was a diagnostics disk?
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "andrew" <lists@f...>
>>>To: <prophet2000@y...>
>>>Subject: Re: [prophet2000] Operator system DISK!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>The p2k OS is kept on ROM, not floppy.
>>>>
>>>>Sounds like you have a dead machine?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Is there a way for you to make a copy and send it to me???
I know it's quiet boring but it will help me a lot!

--- In prophet2000@y..., andrew <lists@f...> wrote:
> If if i had it to upload there is no way of reading or writing p2k 
disks from a PC or MAC.
> 
> strangemp500 wrote:
> > Could you upload this diagnostic disk 'cause i don't have it
> > Thanx
> > 
> > --- In prophet2000@y..., andrew <lists@f...> wrote:
> > 
> >>There is.
> >>
> >>trout wrote:
> >>
> >>>i thought there was a diagnostics disk?
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>From: "andrew" <lists@f...>
> >>>To: <prophet2000@y...>
> >>>Subject: Re: [prophet2000] Operator system DISK!!!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>The p2k OS is kept on ROM, not floppy.
> >>>>
> >>>>Sounds like you have a dead machine?
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I don't have it.
And even if if i did, it's useless without the service manual.

ac

strangemp500 wrote:

> Is there a way for you to make a copy and send it to me???
> I know it's quiet boring but it will help me a lot!
> 
> --- In prophet2000@y..., andrew <lists@f...> wrote:
> 
>>If if i had it to upload there is no way of reading or writing p2k 
> 
> disks from a PC or MAC.
> 
>>strangemp500 wrote:
>>
>>>Could you upload this diagnostic disk 'cause i don't have it
>>>Thanx
>>>
>>>--- In prophet2000@y..., andrew <lists@f...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>There is.
>>>>
>>>>trout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>i thought there was a diagnostics disk?
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>From: "andrew" <lists@f...>
>>>>>To: <prophet2000@y...>
>>>>>Subject: Re: [prophet2000] Operator system DISK!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>The p2k OS is kept on ROM, not floppy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sounds like you have a dead machine?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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strangemp500 wrote:
> Could you upload this diagnostic disk 'cause i don't have it

As far as I know, it can't be duplicated on any known computer, nor on 
the P2000 itself. Going by their web site, even Wine Country don't have 
them on stock any more - which probably implies that the one development 
machine capable of creating them is dead and gone.

Sevo

<< As far as I know, it can't be duplicated on any known computer, nor on 
the P2000 itself. Going by their web site, even Wine Country don't have 
them on stock any more - which probably implies that the one development 
machine capable of creating them is dead and gone. >>

what *does* it do on power-up?

I've never heard of this diagnostics disc, and I'm reasonably confident that 
tim wallhead (used to be the service engineer at argent's in london, where I 
bought my 2002+ and found a mellotron....) would've told me about it while I 
was raiding their 2000 library, if he thought it was useful. I don't think it 
would have been for system checks anyway, more likely it was for adjusting 
the analogue circuitry, i.e. a bunch of waveforms, with the patches set up to 
check open and closed filters and amps, crosstalk, the mod depth of the lfo 
and stuff like that. 

the o/s is either working or not. somewhere I have an old eprom with v3 on it 
but it's unlikely to help much, besides being not the latest version.

anyway, the 2000/2002 should make noises based on it's rom waveforms even if 
there isn't even a floppy drive in the same room. and if it's not the rom 
(which is quite unlikely, as has been mentioned) then it's most likely to be 
the system clock (the crystal that runs the whole machine; my sx16 has got 
through three before I gave up with it) or the cpu that's been fried. 

wine country ought to be able to help- they seem quite happy to enter into 
lengthy dialogue over these machines. sadly, though, many of the more 
proprietary bits are now permanently unavailable and my 2000, with it's dead 
kybd controller, is likely to be just a source of parts for the 2002+ now.  
:-( like you can't imagine. I loved that keyboard. you can stuff your akais 
and emus, this was a great sounding sampler.

the good bit about this is that I'll be passing on the surplus manual, along 
with some schemos when they arrive, to another list-member (hi ben!) who has 
a bit more time than I to scan or whatever so you can all see them.

duncan/r.m.i.

Duncan has very kindly supplied me with all the manuals(technical and 
non-technical) (received today) that he could find on the condition 
that I sort the info. into a useable form and post it up in the file 
section - first instalment is up already - the Operation Summary 
section (which is very straightforward indeed) which all scanned and 
OCR'd with relatively few probs. due to the decent quality of the 
copy sent to me (thank you, Duncan).  The rest of the manual(s) will 
not be quite so rapid in appearing due to their immense bulk... but I 
shall do what I can to keep the sections flowing forth.

Duncan also sent me a copy of a CD of his, which made a pleasantly 
ambient accompaniment to the scanning and editing process - most 
agreeable.

Next posts will be 'identifying your mods.' and the tech.manual (this 
latter will be an interesting one - lots of schematics to cope with, 
so expect some .gif files)

TTFN

Ben

There are already some poor scans of the p2k schems on my site:

http://www.ftg.co.uk/studio/p2k/download/schematics/

But decent quality scans would be appreciated by all!

ac

eudanem wrote:

> Duncan has very kindly supplied me with all the manuals(technical and 
> non-technical) (received today) that he could find on the condition 
> that I sort the info. into a useable form and post it up in the file 
> section - first instalment is up already - the Operation Summary 
> section (which is very straightforward indeed) which all scanned and 
> OCR'd with relatively few probs. due to the decent quality of the 
> copy sent to me (thank you, Duncan).  The rest of the manual(s) will 
> not be quite so rapid in appearing due to their immense bulk... but I 
> shall do what I can to keep the sections flowing forth.
> 
> Duncan also sent me a copy of a CD of his, which made a pleasantly 
> ambient accompaniment to the scanning and editing process - most 
> agreeable.
> 
> Next posts will be 'identifying your mods.' and the tech.manual (this 
> latter will be an interesting one - lots of schematics to cope with, 
> so expect some .gif files)
> 
> TTFN
> 
> Ben
> 
> 
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>
>Duncan has very kindly supplied me with all the manuals(technical and
>non-technical) (received today) that he could find on the condition
>that I sort the info. into a useable form and post it up in the file
>section - first instalment is up already - the Operation Summary
>section (which is very straightforward indeed) which all scanned and
>OCR'd with relatively few probs. due to the decent quality of the
>copy sent to me (thank you, Duncan).  The rest of the manual(s) will
>not be quite so rapid in appearing due to their immense bulk... but I
>shall do what I can to keep the sections flowing forth.


I have to tell you that this is MUCH APPRECIATED! My friend who promised me 
the manual some months ago has not made good (yet)so with this operations 
manual, I can now start doing some samples on it (which is where the meat of 
any sampler comes in..you can't rely wholly on 3rd party sample discs! ;-)

a Big Thanks from all of us!!

Tim



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<< first instalment is up already >>

sterling work, ben- a man of your word. I can't believe you got it done so 
soon. well, as he says, there's plenty more to look forward to, but that op 
summary has even got me reaching for the drawer of floppies. 

I can't take my 2002 all the way to california for this gig in november, much 
as I'd like to take it home for a visit, but I'm going to load samples from 
it into a ram card for my alesis s4 module. maybe I'll figure out a way to 
upload some wavs of the factory sounds I have on some of them. the disc 
format and the 12bit files are too proprietary, I fear, but the sounds are 
pretty good- they'll survive resampling if it's 16/44- and patch ("map") 
details can always be written out longhand or scanned from the blanks in the 
manual.

if there's a list for that s4, I haven't found it yet, but there's a guy in 
greece who wrote a tutorial on this rather idiosyncratic operation and it 
works a treat, so I wrote and thanked him. his example has now been followed 
for the p2k and I'm glad to have helped. now for those discs.....

duncan/r.m.i.

<< lots of schematics to cope with >>

I almost forgot- wine country told me a few things to try before confirming 
my suspicion that my 2000's keyboard controller chip was fried. what they 
didn't tell me- and they knew that I deal with electronics for a living- was 
that a number of other, less rare components might be the cause of the 
problem (stuck notes, since you ask).
 
I'd gone way past the cleaning of the rubber pads under the keys by this 
time, and the contacts all looked ok, though this had been a hire machine (ex 
music lab in 1991, as-seen, with a busted floppy drive, £350. I found the 
receipt in the manual. I had a broken thumb when I collected it.....). 
so I exchanged a few e-mails with them, but now I think about it, I reckon 
the guy who answers this correspondence was used to giving bad news to people 
looking for curtis chips for their p5's. I didn't even bother them when my 
pro-1 blew up, I just bought a new filter chip from tim wallhead.
so anyway, I'm going to have a poke around and see if it comes to life. has 
anyone else had intermittent, random stuck notes? what's the mixture of 
2000's and 2002's out there?

duncan/r.m.i.