Sequential circuits samplers

I recently got a Prophet 2002. and I had a few questions to you lucky
owners of the manuals!

1)	can anyone make a PDF or scan of the MIDI implementation table
(assuming it has one)
2)	I was pondering that if I had a MIDI Knob box that output
controller changes.. could I control ALL
      Of the filter settings (or other settings) in the Prophet2k
live? Has anyone tried this?

Also on an somewhat related note, I somehow managed to get my machine
into a mode where it recognizes the 4 first notes played.. then
ignores the next 4. this goes on and on. Any suggestions as to what
mode I may have gotten my self into?  I have read the chapt 13 txt
doc. and I have a feeling it may be in the mapping.

THX for your time,
Lucas r.
Lucasr.net

Hi 
I'm new to this forum ...just got an upgraded 2002 ($100 used)  and I 
saw your post


> 1)	can anyone make a PDF or scan of the MIDI implementation table
> (assuming it has one)


Down Load the manual posted in files - it's all there but not in 
normal chart form (remember the date!) ....be patient on the download 
it took me 10 tries across several hours to get part 2 to download, 
parts 1 and 3 were easy



> 2)	I was pondering that if I had a MIDI Knob box that output
> controller changes.. could I control ALL
>       Of the filter settings (or other settings) in the Prophet2k
> live? Has anyone tried this?


well I read the whole manual. looking for the same answer and there 
isn't much on CC numbers that are implemented...I think you're out of 
luck...looks like the mod wheel and pitch bend are about it....I have 
a 2002 and I use a M-audio Oxygen-8 and they work great together but 
maybe a more experienced user could respond than me ....I've only had 
mine for a week............

> Also on an somewhat related note, I somehow managed to get my 
machine
> into a mode where it recognizes the 4 first notes played.. then
> ignores the next 4. this goes on and on. Any suggestions as to what
> mode I may have gotten my self into?  I have read the chapt 13 txt
> doc. and I have a feeling it may be in the mapping.


did anyone ever answer that one? if so can you forward me the answer 
too?...I have the very same problem with 4 on and 4 off....I found a 
workaround though and that is to use the balance knob and center the 
balance..it's not really note on and off it's more like pan four 
notes hard left, then pan four notes hard right and IF  your balance 
knob  is not perfectly in the center the notes "disappear" ..I 
dicovered this because if you move your balance knob the other way 
you can reverse the pattern.....and I even have only the RIGHT/MONO 
output hooked into my amp....what is really frustrating to me is that 
this occurs on the no-disk bootup presets that are built in? is this 
correct behavior? seems wierd to me ...can someone confirm this or 
let me know what I'm doing wrong? thanks in advance 

thanks to anyone who can help ....this 2003 looks like a really fun 
sound toy

Brian 
Addicted to synthetic sounds

Brian wrote:

>did anyone ever answer that one? if so can you forward me the answer
>too?...I have the very same problem with 4 on and 4 off....I found a
>workaround though and that is to use the balance knob and center the
>balance..it's not really note on and off it's more like pan four
>notes hard left, then pan four notes hard right and IF  your balance
>knob  is not perfectly in the center the notes "disappear" ..I
>dicovered this because if you move your balance knob the other way
>you can reverse the pattern.....and I even have only the RIGHT/MONO
>output hooked into my amp....what is really frustrating to me is that
>this occurs on the no-disk bootup presets that are built in? is this
>correct behavior?

It is the correct behavior. The Prophet is not a stereo device. It has two 
channels of output and by default uses them that way, to distribute the 
voices. And the 11-O'clock position is the best place for the balance knob, 
because of the pot's resistance taper. At least, that's the way it is with 
the Prophet 2000 model (with the keyboard), which I have. Put it there, and 
use the mono output, and you'll have level sound output from all voices.
-- Pat

Pat

Thanks for the input....yes 11 O-clock is about where the balance is 
on my 2002....I guess I can always run the 2 outputs in parallel to 
my Rane SM26 submixer and final position them there, it's just that 
because its new to me its not in the rack with the other toys, just 
on its own for a shakedown cruise

since I have you on the line is there anything squirrely about the 
2000/2s  reliability of MIDI note on and off and velocity 
sensitivity?  I am using a Roland GI-20 guitar/MIDI controller and 
when I play my Strat/MIDI guitar with my separate Roland sound unit 
the sounds are much more certain and reliable, but on the 2002 I get 
way more missed/delayed/and stray notes, almost as if there is a 
latency/overload issue....I have even tried a variety of string 
sensitivity settings and its still hard to control with the 
guitar....would upping the MIDI baud rate help?

just curious 

thanks for helping a 2002 newbie

Brian


-- In prophet2000@yahoogroups.com, Pat Swayne <me@p...> wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> 
> >did anyone ever answer that one? if so can you forward me the 
answer
> >too?...I have the very same problem with 4 on and 4 off....I found 
a
> >workaround though and that is to use the balance knob and center 
the
> >balance..it's not really note on and off it's more like pan four
> >notes hard left, then pan four notes hard right and IF  your 
balance
> >knob  is not perfectly in the center the notes "disappear" ..I
> >dicovered this because if you move your balance knob the other way
> >you can reverse the pattern.....and I even have only the RIGHT/MONO
> >output hooked into my amp....what is really frustrating to me is 
that
> >this occurs on the no-disk bootup presets that are built in? is 
this
> >correct behavior?
> 
> It is the correct behavior. The Prophet is not a stereo device. It 
has two 
> channels of output and by default uses them that way, to distribute 
the 
> voices. And the 11-O'clock position is the best place for the 
balance knob, 
> because of the pot's resistance taper. At least, that's the way it 
is with 
> the Prophet 2000 model (with the keyboard), which I have. Put it 
there, and 
> use the mono output, and you'll have level sound output from all 
voices.
> -- Pat

Brian wrote:

> since I have you on the line is there anything squirrely about the 
> 2000/2s  reliability of MIDI note on and off and velocity 
> sensitivity?

You'll have to wait for someone else to answer that one. I haven't
done anything with my Prophet with regard to MIDI. I just load disks
and attempt to play it.
-- Pat
ps. I got mine for $10 at a music store's "tent sale". I don't think
they knew what they had. I just had to replace a couple of switches,
the floppy, and upgrade the ROM. It already had 512k of memory.
-- Pat

Greetings P2k fans.
Does anyone know of a way to read the contents of sample disks (ala
CDXTRACT)? I just bought a p2002 that came with a load of disks and I would
like to be able to got through them on the PC.

Thanks
Raph