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Korg X3 - wanted piano sounds

2012-12-26 by NoëlBuhagiar

Hi friends,
I have a client who asked me where he could find some good piano sounds for his X3
that I serviced for him. Anyone know of some nice piano sounds for this synth please?
He is also interested in some other sounds.
Hope you had a *`*`* Nice Christmas *`*`* & Wishing you All *** A Happy New Year 2013! *** with
a glass of champagne!
Thanks for any help,
Noel / Malta

Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Korg X3 - wanted piano sounds

2012-12-27 by MiKelleY

I can't verify that the PCM format is the same, but you might find that some of the Korg Wavestation PCM cards compatible. Certainly the cards were distributed around the same time, early 90's. I am always rather amazed at how much $$$ people are asking for the PCM cards, and rather than shell out all the cash for the PCM cards, I would suggest buying the SR module.
 
There does seem to be quite the online interest in the wavestation PCM cards, which you maybe able to rip the files off of and put into X3 format if it differs. There were lots of piano and layered piano waves in the wavestation library.
 
Happy New Years - Mike

http://www.onestoneworks.com/
 

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 From: NoëlBuhagiar <laser@onvol.net>
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:25 PM
Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Korg X3 - wanted piano sounds
   
 
   
 
Hi friends, 
  
I have a client who asked me where he could find some good 
piano sounds for his X3 
that I serviced for him. Anyone know of some nice piano sounds 
for this synth please? 
He is also interested in some other sounds. 
  
Hope you had a *`*`* Nice Christmas *`*`* & Wishing you 
All *** A Happy New Year 2013! *** with 
a glass of champagne! 
  
Thanks for any help, 
Noel / Malta

Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Korg X3 - wanted piano sounds

2012-12-27 by NoëlBuhagiar

Hi Mike,

Thank you for your help I will look into it and do my best.

I agree that it could be more costly with the cards like you mentioned
and better option is like you suggested invest in a module.
Then again this client wants something more straight forward I think as he’s
more of a performer then knowing how to connect/operate these things!

Thanks again and ‘A Happy New Year 2013’ to you too!

Cheers,
Noel / Malta
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From: MiKelleY 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 1:04 AM
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Korg X3 - wanted piano sounds

  

I can't verify that the PCM format is the same, but you might find that some of the Korg Wavestation PCM cards compatible. Certainly the cards were distributed around the same time, early 90's. I am always rather amazed at how much $$$ people are asking for the PCM cards, and rather than shell out all the cash for the PCM cards, I would suggest buying the SR module.

There does seem to be quite the online interest in the wavestation PCM cards, which you maybe able to rip the files off of and put into X3 format if it differs. There were lots of piano and layered piano waves in the wavestation library.

Happy New Years - Mike

http://www.onestoneworks.com/

From: NoëlBuhagiar <laser@...>
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:25 PM
Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Korg X3 - wanted piano sounds

  
Hi friends,

I have a client who asked me where he could find some good piano sounds for his X3
that I serviced for him. Anyone know of some nice piano sounds for this synth please?
He is also interested in some other sounds.

Hope you had a *`*`* Nice Christmas *`*`* & Wishing you All *** A Happy New Year 2013! *** with
a glass of champagne!

Thanks for any help,
Noel / Malta

Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Korg X3 - wanted piano sounds

2012-12-31 by MiKelleY

Noel,
 
I found this rather interesting DIY project that I thought was relative to your project.
 
Check out the third article down from the top, titled "MIDIbox SCE for Korg 
Wavestation"
on this midibox.org blog http://www.midibox.org/ . From what I am reading, it does give me the impression that transferring PCM files off of the original KORG cards to EPROM or SD is possible.
 
This page here http://net.indra.com/~cliffcan/01pcm.htm goes into great detail about the PCM data cards, copying & compatibility issues between the KORG 01/X2/X3 & Wavestation.
 
Happy New Year,
 
Mike
http://www.onestoneworks.com/
 

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 From: NoëlBuhagiar <laser@...>
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Korg X3 - wanted piano sounds
   
 
   
 
Hi Mike, 
  
Thank you for your help I will look into it and do my 
best. 
  
I agree that it could be more costly with the cards like you 
mentioned 
and better option is like you suggested invest in a 
module. 
Then again this client wants something more straight forward I 
think as he’s 
more of a performer then knowing how to connect/operate these 
things! 
  
Thanks again and ‘A Happy New Year 2013’ to you 
too! 
  
Cheers, 
Noel / Malta 


From: MiKelleY  
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 1:04 AM 
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com  
Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Korg X3 - wanted piano 
sounds 
 
  
I can't verify that the PCM format is the same, but you might find 
that some of the Korg Wavestation PCM cards compatible. Certainly the cards were 
distributed around the same time, early 90's. I am always rather amazed at how 
much $$$ people are asking for the PCM cards, and rather than shell out all the 
cash for the PCM cards, I would suggest buying the SR module. 
  
There does seem to be quite the online interest in the wavestation 
PCM cards, which you maybe able to rip the files off of and put into X3 format 
if it differs. There were lots of piano and layered piano waves in the 
wavestation library. 
  
Happy New Years - Mike  

http://www.onestoneworks.com/ 


________________________________
From: NoëlBuhagiar 
<laser@...>
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:25 
PM
Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Korg X3 - wanted piano sounds
 
  
Hi friends, 
  
I have a client who asked me where he could find some good 
piano sounds for his X3 
that I serviced for him. Anyone know of some nice piano sounds 
for this synth please? 
He is also interested in some other sounds. 
  
Hope you had a *`*`* Nice Christmas *`*`* & Wishing you 
All *** A Happy New Year 2013! *** with 
a glass of champagne! 
  
Thanks for any help, 
Noel / Malta

Re: Korg X3 - wanted piano sounds

2013-01-01 by electronic_jax

Noel,

I found this rather interesting DIY project that I thought was relative to your project.

Check out the third article down from the top, titled "MIDIbox SCE for Korg Wavestation"

on this midibox.org blog http://www.midibox.org/ . From what I am reading, it does give me the impression that transferring PCM files off of the original KORG cards to EPROM or SD is possible.

This page here http://net.indra.com/~cliffcan/01pcm.htm goes into great detail about the PCM data cards, copying & compatibility issues between the KORG 01/X2/X3 & Wavestation.

Happy New Year,
Mike

--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, NoëlBuhagiar <laser@...> wrote:
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>
> Hi Mike,
> 
> Thank you for your help I will look into it and do my best.
> 
> I agree that it could be more costly with the cards like you mentioned
> and better option is like you suggested invest in a module.
> Then again this client wants something more straight forward I think as he’s
> more of a performer then knowing how to connect/operate these things!
> 
> Thanks again and ‘A Happy New Year 2013’ to you too!
> 
> Cheers,
> Noel / Malta
> 
> From: MiKelleY 
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 1:04 AM
> To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Korg X3 - wanted piano sounds
> 
>   
> 
> I can't verify that the PCM format is the same, but you might find that some of the Korg Wavestation PCM cards compatible. Certainly the cards were distributed around the same time, early 90's. I am always rather amazed at how much $$$ people are asking for the PCM cards, and rather than shell out all the cash for the PCM cards, I would suggest buying the SR module.
> 
> There does seem to be quite the online interest in the wavestation PCM cards, which you maybe able to rip the files off of and put into X3 format if it differs. There were lots of piano and layered piano waves in the wavestation library.
> 
> Happy New Years - Mike
> 
> http://www.onestoneworks.com/
> 
> From: NoëlBuhagiar <laser@...>
> To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:25 PM
> Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Korg X3 - wanted piano sounds
> 
>   
> Hi friends,
> 
> I have a client who asked me where he could find some good piano sounds for his X3
> that I serviced for him. Anyone know of some nice piano sounds for this synth please?
> He is also interested in some other sounds.
> 
> Hope you had a *`*`* Nice Christmas *`*`* & Wishing you All *** A Happy New Year 2013! *** with
> a glass of champagne!
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> Noel / Malta
>

Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: Korg X3 - wanted piano sounds

2013-01-01 by jammie

wont work as it uses a totally different format
the format used is for the m1 wavestation ws1 ex ad
and the t series 1 2ex 3ex as they have the extra pcm sam0ple ram that can load them
now the m1 uses the same data format as the korg dsm1 sampler but the problem with this is that when using them in the wavestation they click as the
wavestation requires a 1 sample off set for its interpolation engine but the m1 cards dont have it so that you get clicks
the t series also requires the same 1 sample offset
when converting dsm1 sample disks it automatically does the 1 sample offset so that there are no clicks in the loop
we already have the format as we make pcm disks for the t series using waves and kmp/ksf files
that get sent via sample dump then made into the multisounds
now the 01w series /x2/x3/wavestation sr
use pcmcia sram cards of 2mb
the t series and the m1 use a maximum of 512k 16bits
now there is a program that can write 01w format multisounds but the format is different than the the first generation synths
the second generation ai2 synths use a different sample format they use 32.25khz
where as the first generation can use any of the format of the dsm1/dss1 as there engine is bassed on them
;
there highest frequency range for transposition is 64khz
in theres it can be 8bits or 16bits the sample formats are 12khz 16khz 24khz 32khz 48khz
the higher the rate the more notes of multi sound are required as its a multipul of the frequency to max frequency
32khz will allow a sample every octave 48 you need 2 samples every octave
so the 01w uses the compressed format sample rate that korg uses in its compression algorythum
as do all the lator synths
we are making new pcm cards for the first generation synths
and i have made the pcmcia cards for the 01w
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Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 3:25 AM
Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: Korg X3 - wanted piano sounds

Noel,

I found this rather interesting DIY project that I thought was relative to your project.

Check out the third article down from the top, titled "MIDIbox SCE for Korg Wavestation"

on this midibox.org blog http://www.midibox.org/ . From what I am reading, it does give me the impression that transferring PCM files off of the original KORG cards to EPROM or SD is possible.

This page here http://net.indra.com/~cliffcan/01pcm.htm goes into great detail about the PCM data cards, copying & compatibility issues between the KORG 01/X2/X3 &; Wavestation.

Happy New Year,
Mike

--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, NoëlBuhagiar wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Thank you for your help I will look into it and do my best.
>
> I agree that it could be more costly with the cards like you mentioned
> and better option is like you suggested invest in a module.
> Then again this client wants something more straight forward I think as he’s
> more of a performer then knowing how to connect/operate these things!
>
> Thanks again and ‘A Happy New Year 2013’ to you too!
>
> Cheers,
> Noel / Malta
>
> From: MiKelleY
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 1:04 AM
> To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Korg X3 - wanted piano sounds
>
>
>
> I can't verify that the PCM format is the same, but you might find that some of the Korg Wavestation PCM cards compatible. Certainly the cards were distributed around the same time, early 90's. I am always rather amazed at how much $$$ people are asking for the PCM cards, and rather than shell out all the cash for the PCM cards, I would suggest buying the SR module.
>
> There does seem to be quite the online interest in the wavestation PCM cards, which you maybe able to rip the files off of and put into X3 format if it differs. There were lots of piano and layered piano waves in the wavestation library.
>
> Happy New Years - Mike
>
> http://www.onestoneworks.com/
>
> From: NoëlBuhagiar > To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:25 PM
> Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Korg X3 - wanted piano sounds
>
>
> Hi friends,
>
> I have a client who asked me where he could find some good piano sounds for his X3
> that I serviced for him. Anyone know of some nice piano sounds for this synth please?
> He is also interested in some other sounds.
>
> Hope you had a *`*`* Nice Christmas *`*`* & Wishing you All *** A Happy New Year 2013! *** with
> a glass of champagne!
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Noel / Malta
>

Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: Korg X3 - wanted piano sounds

2013-01-01 by NoëlBuhagiar

Hi Mike,
Thanks a lot I appreciate, I will have a look later...
A Happy New Year to you too,
Noel

  
Noel,

I found this rather interesting DIY project that I thought was relative to your project.

Check out the third article down from the top, titled "MIDIbox SCE for Korg Wavestation"

on this midibox.org blog http://www.midibox.org/ . From what I am reading, it does give me the impression that transferring PCM files off of the original KORG cards to EPROM or SD is possible.

This page here http://net.indra.com/~cliffcan/01pcm.htm goes into great detail about the PCM data cards, copying & compatibility issues between the KORG 01/X2/X3 & Wavestation.

Happy New Year,
Mike

--- In mailto:vintagesynthrepair%40yahoogroups.com, NoëlBuhagiar <laser@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> Hi Mike,
> 
> Thank you for your help I will look into it and do my best.
> 
> I agree that it could be more costly with the cards like you mentioned
> and better option is like you suggested invest in a module.
> Then again this client wants something more straight forward I think as he’s
> more of a performer then knowing how to connect/operate these things!
> 
> Thanks again and ‘A Happy New Year 2013’ to you too!
> 
> Cheers,
> Noel / Malta
> 
> From: MiKelleY 
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 1:04 AM
> To: mailto:vintagesynthrepair%40yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Korg X3 - wanted piano sounds
> 
> 
> 
> I can't verify that the PCM format is the same, but you might find that some of the Korg Wavestation PCM cards compatible. Certainly the cards were distributed around the same time, early 90's. I am always rather amazed at how much $$$ people are asking for the PCM cards, and rather than shell out all the cash for the PCM cards, I would suggest buying the SR module.
> 
> There does seem to be quite the online interest in the wavestation PCM cards, which you maybe able to rip the files off of and put into X3 format if it differs. There were lots of piano and layered piano waves in the wavestation library.
> 
> Happy New Years - Mike
> 
> http://www.onestoneworks.com/
> 
> From: NoëlBuhagiar <laser@...>
> To: mailto:vintagesynthrepair%40yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:25 PM
> Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Korg X3 - wanted piano sounds
> 
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> I have a client who asked me where he could find some good piano sounds for his X3
> that I serviced for him. Anyone know of some nice piano sounds for this synth please?
> He is also interested in some other sounds.
> 
> Hope you had a *`*`* Nice Christmas *`*`* & Wishing you All *** A Happy New Year 2013! *** with
> a glass of champagne!
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> Noel / Malta
>

Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: Korg Guitar Synthesizer X911

2013-01-02 by Daniel Forró

After recapping of four electrolytic capacitors in power supply and  
cleaning this machine I have following problem on X911:

- after switching the instrument on the Led [D35] on button  
"Distortion Guitar" [SW10] is permanently on and it's not possible to  
switch it off usual way by pressing this switch (as with all the other  
buttons). Led goes out after pressing the "Cancel" button, and after  
this it's not possible to switch on "Distortion Guitar" button and lit  
its LED. After switch off and on the instrument this scenario repeats.

Am I right supposing that there's problem with IC11 - CMOS 4069? It's  
just strange that three gates in this IC work well, and three  
connected to "Distortion Guitar" button not (or at least one of them).  
Is such kind of partial damage possible with this IC? And could I  
destroy this CMOS IC just by opening the machine, disconnecting all  
internal connectors and doing dust cleaning? All the other CMOS seems  
to be OK...

IC is NEC D4069C, after short research I've found probably this old  
chip is out of production. What would be modern equivalent? CD4069 or  
other?

Or should I check different components which could be damaged?

Thanks for any advice. If you need service manual with schematics, I  
can send it.

Daniel Forro

Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: Korg Guitar Synthesizer X911

2013-01-02 by jammie

as long as its a logic 4069 chip
any make will do
try philips or texas instruments
as they will have the drop in replacement equivelants
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Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: Korg Guitar Synthesizer X911

After recapping of four electrolytic capacitors in power supply and
cleaning this machine I have following problem on X911:

- after switching the instrument on the Led [D35] on button
"Distortion Guitar" [SW10] is permanently on and it's not possible to
switch it off usual way by pressing this switch (as with all the other
buttons). Led goes out after pressing the "Cancel" button, and after
this it's not possible to switch on "Distortion Guitar" button and lit
its LED. After switch off and on the instrument this scenario repeats.

Am I right supposing that there's problem with IC11 - CMOS 4069? It's
just strange that three gates in this IC work well, and three
connected to "Distortion Guitar" button not (or at least one of them).
Is such kind of partial damage possible with this IC? And could I
destroy this CMOS IC just by opening the machine, disconnecting all
internal connectors and doing dust cleaning? All the other CMOS seems
to be OK...

IC is NEC D4069C, after short research I've found probably this old
chip is out of production. What would be modern equivalent? CD4069 or
other?

Or should I check different components which could be damaged?

Thanks for any advice. If you need service manual with schematics, I
can send it.

Daniel Forro

Re: Korg Guitar Synthesizer X911

2013-01-03 by scott frye

After working in electronics for 25+ years, I have yet to see a CMOS chip fail from someone touching the circuit board and cleaning it.

The other guy is right, pretty much any make will do on a replacement IC . Name brand is better.
Digikey or Mouser or MCMelectronics sell them

--
Scott Frye

Audio-fixation.net

Vermont

Re: Korg Guitar Synthesizer X911

2013-01-04 by scituate_mass

I am pitifully amateur with electronics, but I can report that I have had instances where a buffered CMOS would not work in a circuit that previously had an unbuffered IC.  So... that is one possible thing to watch out for.

best D

--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, scott frye  wrote:
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>
> After working in electronics for 25+ years, I have yet to see a  CMOS chip
> fail from someone touching the circuit board and cleaning it.
> 
> The other guy is right, pretty much any make will do on a replacement IC .
> Name brand is better.
> Digikey or Mouser or MCMelectronics sell them
> 
> -- 
> Scott Frye
> 
> Audio-fixation.net
> 
> Vermont
>

Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: Korg Guitar Synthesizer X911

2013-01-07 by Daniel Forró

So should I suppose that old NEC D4069C chip was unbuffered and order  
modern equivalent with UB suffix? I still couldn't find datasheet for  
old chip. I'd like to be sure concerning this because chip is soldered  
and there's no space for socket...

Daniel Forro
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On 5 Jan, 2013, at 12:06 AM, scituate_mass wrote:

> I am pitifully amateur with electronics, but I can report that I  
> have had instances where a buffered CMOS would not work in a circuit  
> that previously had an unbuffered IC.  So... that is one possible  
> thing to watch out for.
>
> best D

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