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Hi People

I had a chat with Cynthia about the possibity's of a Blue Zero Oscilator.
Cynthi told me that it was possible in frackrack format but in Wiard
Blue. 
With some Wiard graphics on it or something kinda similar.
But she would have wanted a minimum order of 4.
When 4 people want one it would cost $100 extra each person.
When we can find 8 people it's only $50 extra each person.
But ok i am in for one.
Are there 3 or perhaps 7 others?

Regards,

Dennis

If you're willing to pay so much extra just to match your wiard
modules, I'd first get an answer to this question: is cynthia buying
the blue panels from grant?  if not, you might be disappointed in the
result; the blue fpe panel that i bought was *not* wiard blue.  either
their anodizer is grossly inconsistent, or more likely, grant sends
them his own metal.

cheers,
kevin


--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "m0n075" <modular@...> wrote:
>
> Hi People
> 
> I had a chat with Cynthia about the possibity's of a Blue Zero
Oscilator.

> Cynthi told me that it was possible in frackrack format but in Wiard
> Blue. 
> With some Wiard graphics on it or something kinda similar.
> But she would have wanted a minimum order of 4.
> When 4 people want one it would cost $100 extra each person.
> When we can find 8 people it's only $50 extra each person.
> But ok i am in for one.
> Are there 3 or perhaps 7 others?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dennis
>

I planned to order a ZO around the first of next month, so if you
haven't found your 4 or 8 by then, then I'm in.

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "m0n075" <modular@...> wrote:
>
> Hi People
> 
> I had a chat with Cynthia about the possibity's of a Blue Zero
Oscilator.

> Cynthi told me that it was possible in frackrack format but in Wiard
> Blue. 
> With some Wiard graphics on it or something kinda similar.
> But she would have wanted a minimum order of 4.
> When 4 people want one it would cost $100 extra each person.
> When we can find 8 people it's only $50 extra each person.
> But ok i am in for one.
> Are there 3 or perhaps 7 others?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dennis
>

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "supisuzoi" <son_of_zoggs@...> wrote:
>
> If you're willing to pay so much extra just to match your wiard
> modules, I'd first get an answer to this question: is cynthia buying
> the blue panels from grant?  if not, you might be disappointed in the
> result; the blue fpe panel that i bought was *not* wiard blue.  either
> their anodizer is grossly inconsistent, or more likely, grant sends
> them his own metal.

Hi There!

Actually I was thinking of using the same anodizers who dunked the 
power supply that I made for Gary Chang's monster Wiard system.  
It seems to match the blue color fairly well?   That would be if we silk-
screened white graphics on top, however I'm more inclined at the moment 
to do all of the lengends and the ornate patterns (an original design) purely 
in the anodizing process - so that the silver graphics would be dyed directly 
into the aluminum itself.  Maybe  I could send them a tiny chip of Wiard panel
material scrap (!) as a sample of the actual blue desired?

From what I've learned it seems that most anodizers use pretty much the 
same standard bottles of industrial dye and there are only three basic 
shades of anodizing blue... "You've got your greeny-blue, your blue-blue, 
and your reddish-blue", I was told.  The other major color variation is in the 
hardness of the aluminum itself.  A hard aircraft type aluminum, while 
easiest to machine crisply, will not take-on the graphics at a molecular level
as well as gummy soft aluminum, unfortunaletly this means a higher rejection 
rate and a lots of extra deburring.  

Knowing all of the above, I feel confident in being able to zero in, (there's that 
word again!) on a compatible shade of blue that will match.

As far as the graphics go, we could create a new poll on Yahoo's 
"The Cyndustries List" showing the three panel graphic variations, and have a
vote by the prospective recipients of the Cynthia brand Wiard-blue flavored 
Zeroscillators for their favorite design.  (Hey Grant, does all of this sound 
strangely familliar?  Yikes!  LOL!)  

Best wishes, and apologies for splattering so many words on this wonderful 
Wiard List today, thank you.

Cynthia 

Cyndustries.com


http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Cyndustries_List/

> 
> cheers,
> kevin
> 
> 
> --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "m0n075" <modular@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi People
> > 
> > I had a chat with Cynthia about the possibity's of a Blue Zero
> Oscilator.
> > Cynthi told me that it was possible in frackrack format but in Wiard
> > Blue. 
> > With some Wiard graphics on it or something kinda similar.
> > But she would have wanted a minimum order of 4.
> > When 4 people want one it would cost $100 extra each person.
> > When we can find 8 people it's only $50 extra each person.
> > But ok i am in for one.
> > Are there 3 or perhaps 7 others?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Dennis
> >
>

"supisuzoi" <son_of_zoggs@...> wrote:
>
the blue fpe panel that i bought was *not* wiard blue.  either
> their anodizer is grossly inconsistent, or more likely, grant sends
> them his own metal.
> 
> cheers,
> kevin
> 
> 

Kevin,

Having 40 module system, with virtually all of the editions of front
panel runs represented, I can tell you that there is quite a lot of
variation in Wiard Blue;  the FPD version of blue is just another
variation.

gary

Same here.  I've owned 20 plus various 300 and 1200 series
modules plus custom anodized stuff and I can maybe find 3
that perfectly match.  Honestly, I don't think this is a bad thing
and have grown to like the variations.  It sort of gives it an ancient
Laboratory look if that makes any sense.  I like this about the arp
2500 as well which used 2 or 3 different batches of metal that looks
cool when mixed up.

bryan

On Jun 10, 2006, at 11:36 AM, Gary Chang wrote:
>
> Kevin,
>
> Having 40 module system, with virtually all of the editions of front
> panel runs represented, I can tell you that there is quite a lot of
> variation in Wiard Blue;  the FPD version of blue is just another
> variation.
>
> gary

i understand... i also like the look of the variations in the 300
systems that i've seen.  just didn't want anyone thinking they were
going to get a "perfect" match by going blue, and then being disappointed.

i have only a 1200 borg and a boogie, and i'd say that they're pretty
much identical in color.  the blue fpe panel that i bought, however,
was a much redder blue (approaching purple), and looked ugly next to
the "authentic" 1200's.

kevin


--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, Bryan Carrigan <bryancarrigan@...>
wrote:

>
> Same here.  I've owned 20 plus various 300 and 1200 series
> modules plus custom anodized stuff and I can maybe find 3
> that perfectly match.  Honestly, I don't think this is a bad thing
> and have grown to like the variations.  It sort of gives it an ancient
> Laboratory look if that makes any sense.  I like this about the arp
> 2500 as well which used 2 or 3 different batches of metal that looks
> cool when mixed up.
> 
> bryan
> 
> 
> On Jun 10, 2006, at 11:36 AM, Gary Chang wrote:
> >
> > Kevin,
> >
> > Having 40 module system, with virtually all of the editions of front
> > panel runs represented, I can tell you that there is quite a lot of
> > variation in Wiard Blue;  the FPD version of blue is just another
> > variation.
> >
> > gary
>

supisuzoi <son_of_zoggs@...> wrote:
> >
> > i have only a 1200 borg and a boogie, and i'd say that they're pretty
> > much identical in color. the blue fpe panel that i bought, however,
> > was a much redder blue (approaching purple), and looked ugly next to
> > the "authentic" 1200's.
> >
> > kevin
> >

Kevin,

it really depends on how much of each hue is represented - in addition
to my 40 300 series modules that are of various blues, then there is
PG's Blue Milton (a different blue from either the 300 or the 1200),
the Wiard dual Joystick controller and 36 panel/inches of 1200 series
and PSIMs modules (all .fpd blues).  The most recent .fpd blue modules
have been 300 Series "Stooge" panels, converting my Boogie
lopass/hipass 1200 series pair and a pair of Borg2 filters to 300
Series format.  These panels are remarkably close to the original
blue!  Every one of my .fpd panels are not the exact same blue, either....

As a design detail, I think that the gargoyle patterns on each of the
modules really create a unifying factor - it would be much more clashy
if the modules were simple blue panels with only knob and jack lables.

The bottom line is when people visit my studio, everyone comments on
how beautiful the Wiard is - amidst the sea of typical recording
studio wretch, a sea of blue is most pleasing to the eye! 8o)

gary

I would prefer a 300 series instead of the 1200...if
they can offer a choice i'm in
Josh

--- Dennis Verschoor <modular@gmail.com> wrote:

> When you build a Wiard system then you will get
> color difference for sure.
> Even the old Moog modular panels witch were black
> are different colored.
> Not a real big deal for me.
> But .... we're with 3 now for a blue frackrack
> version?
> I guess we need only 1 person to jump in now (or 5)
> :)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dennis
> 
> On 6/11/06, supisuzoi <son_of_zoggs@catholic.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >   i understand... i also like the look of the
> variations in the 300
> > systems that i've seen. just didn't want anyone
> thinking they were
> > going to get a "perfect" match by going blue, and
> then being disappointed.
> >
> > i have only a 1200 borg and a boogie, and i'd say
> that they're pretty
> > much identical in color. the blue fpe panel that i
> bought, however,
> > was a much redder blue (approaching purple), and
> looked ugly next to
> > the "authentic" 1200's.
> >
> > kevin
> >
> > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com
> <wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Bryan
> > Carrigan <bryancarrigan@...>
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Same here. I've owned 20 plus various 300 and
> 1200 series
> > > modules plus custom anodized stuff and I can
> maybe find 3
> > > that perfectly match. Honestly, I don't think
> this is a bad thing
> > > and have grown to like the variations. It sort
> of gives it an ancient
> > > Laboratory look if that makes any sense. I like
> this about the arp
> > > 2500 as well which used 2 or 3 different batches
> of metal that looks
> > > cool when mixed up.
> > >
> > > bryan
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 10, 2006, at 11:36 AM, Gary Chang wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Kevin,
> > > >
> > > > Having 40 module system, with virtually all of
> the editions of front
> > > > panel runs represented, I can tell you that
> there is quite a lot of
> > > > variation in Wiard Blue; the FPD version of
> blue is just another
> > > > variation.
> > > >
> > > > gary
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> 
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