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RE: subject: Woggle Bug Demo / Improv

2006-05-31 by Pierre Zeeman

>http://web.newsguy.com/gustav/mp3/Super%20Sticky.mp3

wow.  I really like that.  Any chance of a 1200 series bug?

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Re: subject: Woggle Bug Demo / Improv

2006-05-31 by drj3rk

I would also really like to see one of these.  


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> >http://web.newsguy.com/gustav/mp3/Super%20Sticky.mp3
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> wow.  I really like that.  Any chance of a 1200 series bug?
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Re: subject: Woggle Bug Demo / Improv

2006-05-31 by drmabuce

Hi Pierre

  just a thought...
  
  Grant was generous enough to post the schematics for the wogglebug
circuit on musicsynthesizer.com.

http://www.musicsynthesizer.com/WoggleBug/WoggleBug.html
(the schematic is under this hypertext link:)
Download Schematic Diagram of the #3 Standard WoggleBug (911K)

   Even if he decides to redo the Wbug in SMT  and scale it down to a
single circuit for the 1200 series,  it's a certainty that it will not
happen soon or quickly. If you are handy with a soldering iron (or can
access someone with a modest portion of DIY skills) the Wbug #3
circuit can be assembled at an unhurried pace in a weekend with time
leftover for couple of nice dinners!
   Then if Grant does decide to release a 1200 series Wbug you could
still buy one and have a good equivalent of the 300-series dual Wbug.

    I know that other list members beside myself have built them
(Romeo, for one...if memory serves...).
    At least part of Grant's intention in posting the schematic was to
educate and inform hobbyists (like myself) in how simple such a deeply
chaotic system can be. If nothing else, take a look at the diagrams.
They're amazing in their elegance considering the complexity of the
output.
     The Wbug#3 circuit is also a great 'basic recipe' core design for
 experimentation.

Carpe uhhhhhhhh hmmmmmmmmmmmm....(let's see what would the word be?)
Carpe ......soldering iron... i guess!!
-doc

PS:
i know in my heart that Dave Vosh will build one someday




--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Pierre Zeeman" <pierrezee@...> wrote:
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> >http://web.newsguy.com/gustav/mp3/Super%20Sticky.mp3
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> wow.  I really like that.  Any chance of a 1200 series bug?
> 
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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: subject: Woggle Bug Demo / Improv

2006-05-31 by Romeo Fahl

The Wogglebug 3 is not hard to build, plus there are simple mods that 
you can do to it, like adding a sync input to the 555, a second RM, 
etc....  It's a veritable fountain of bubbly chaos.
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On May 31, 2006, at 9:23 AM, drmabuce wrote:

> Hi Pierre
>
>   just a thought...
>
>   Grant was generous enough to post the schematics for the wogglebug
> circuit on musicsynthesizer.com.
>
> http://www.musicsynthesizer.com/WoggleBug/WoggleBug.html
> (the schematic is under this hypertext link:)
> Download Schematic Diagram of the #3 Standard WoggleBug (911K)
>
>    Even if he decides to redo the Wbug in SMT  and scale it down to a
> single circuit for the 1200 series,  it's a certainty that it will not
> happen soon or quickly. If you are handy with a soldering iron (or can
> access someone with a modest portion of DIY skills) the Wbug #3
> circuit can be assembled at an unhurried pace in a weekend with time
> leftover for couple of nice dinners!
>    Then if Grant does decide to release a 1200 series Wbug you could
> still buy one and have a good equivalent of the 300-series dual Wbug.
>
>     I know that other list members beside myself have built them
> (Romeo, for one...if memory serves...).
>     At least part of Grant's intention in posting the schematic was to
> educate and inform hobbyists (like myself) in how simple such a deeply
> chaotic system can be. If nothing else, take a look at the diagrams.
> They're amazing in their elegance considering the complexity of the
> output.
>      The Wbug#3 circuit is also a great 'basic recipe' core design for
>  experimentation.
>
> Carpe uhhhhhhhh hmmmmmmmmmmmm....(let's see what would the word be?)
> Carpe ......soldering iron... i guess!!
> -doc
>
> PS:
> i know in my heart that Dave Vosh will build one someday
>
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>> wow.  I really like that.  Any chance of a 1200 series bug?
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Re: subject: Woggle Bug Demo / Improv

2006-05-31 by Mike Marsh

I've asked this numerous times, but alas apparently will not happen. 
I would buy on now.  An option (because of size) could be to have a
1200 module that is a single channel bug (the 300 hundred has 2
separate channels).  In that case, I might buy two :)

Mike

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> >http://web.newsguy.com/gustav/mp3/Super%20Sticky.mp3
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> wow.  I really like that.  Any chance of a 1200 series bug?
> 
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Frac-Rac Woggle Bug

2006-06-07 by Grant Richter

I really want to make a 1200 series Woggle Bug. It is Wiards most popular product. The 
original design work went up to version #6, which included a not that successful full time 
"wind/surf" patch. Mike Murphy has the prototype.

Just like the Borg 2, I want to add an additional flavor to the design. Make a version #7.

An idea for that version #7 actually popped into my head today, so the Wiard synergy is 
still going on. It involves adding an option to un-linearizing the "lock" circuit to add more 
freak out to the blipping, so woggle transitions are woggly AND chaotic. That is the official 
technical description. ;^)

I like to add something new, so the 1200 series isn't just a duplicate of the 300 series 
version. It is my personal aesthetic, but also so customers who already own the 300 series 
version have reason to add the 1200 series version.

One technical challenge is the 300 series "Bugs" make use of 10 jacks and 5 controls. 8 
jacks and 4 controls is pretty much the limit for a 3 inch Frac-Rac module. But 4.5" 
modules are awkward in the Frac format.

As always, thank you for your support, and for contributing to this community.

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Pierre Zeeman" <pierrezee@...> wrote:
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> >http://web.newsguy.com/gustav/mp3/Super%20Sticky.mp3
> 
> wow.  I really like that.  Any chance of a 1200 series bug?
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
> Discover the magic of RSS feeds at MSN South Africa! http://za.msn.com/
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Re: [wiardgroup] Frac-Rac Woggle Bug

2006-06-07 by Tyler Harwood

Mr. Richter you can make that Woggle Bug 3 feet wide if you want and still count me as a sure sell.

On Jun 6, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Grant Richter wrote:

I really want to make a 1200 series Woggle Bug. It is Wiards most popular product. The
original design work went up to version #6, which included a not that successful full time
"wind/surf" patch. Mike Murphy has the prototype.

Just like the Borg 2, I want to add an additional flavor to the design. Make a version #7.

An idea for that version #7 actually popped into my head today, so the Wiard synergy is
still going on. It involves adding an option to un-linearizing the "lock" circuit to add more
freak out to the blipping, so woggle transitions are woggly AND chaotic. That is the official
technical description. ;^)

I like to add something new, so the 1200 series isn't just a duplicate of the 300 series
version. It is my personal aesthetic, but also so customers who already own the 300 series
version have reason to add the 1200 series version.

One technical challenge is the 300 series "Bugs" make use of 10 jacks and 5 controls. 8
jacks and 4 controls is pretty much the limit for a 3 inch Frac-Rac module. But 4.5"
modules are awkward in the Frac format.

As always, thank you for your support, and for contributing to this community.

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Pierre Zeeman" ..> wrote:
>
> >http://web.newsguy.com/gustav/mp3/Super%20Sticky.mp3
>
> wow. I really like that. Any chance of a 1200 series bug?
>
> __________________________________________________________
> Discover the magic of RSS feeds at MSN South Africa! http://za.msn.com/
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Re: [wiardgroup] Frac-Rac Woggle Bug

2006-06-07 by Bryan Carrigan

But would be perfect to help fill up a frac rack with a jag ; )
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>  But 4.5" modules are awkward in the Frac format.

Re: [wiardgroup] Frac-Rac Woggle Bug

2006-06-07 by watson

no mater how wide it is count me in also,  just dont sacrifice options
for width,  i dont care if its as wide as a frac rack. ill get it
reguaredless!!

On 6/7/06, Bryan Carrigan <bryancarrigan@mac.com> wrote:
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Re: [wiardgroup] Frac-Rac Woggle Bug

2006-06-07 by damon

Grant: Same opinion.  Bring on the 4.5" Frac Woggle!
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On Jun 7, 2006, at 12:10 AM, Bryan Carrigan wrote:

> But would be perfect to help fill up a frac rack with a jag ; )
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> On Jun 6, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Grant Richter wrote:
> >
> > But 4.5" modules are awkward in the Frac format.
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Re: Frac-Rac Woggle Bug

2006-06-07 by david rothbaum

i feel the same way -- would buy one no matter the size.

--david


--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, damon <damon@...> wrote:
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> Grant: Same opinion.  Bring on the 4.5" Frac Woggle!
> 
> On Jun 7, 2006, at 12:10 AM, Bryan Carrigan wrote:
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> > But would be perfect to help fill up a frac rack with a jag ; )
> >
> > On Jun 6, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Grant Richter wrote:
> > >
> > > But 4.5" modules are awkward in the Frac format.
> >
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Re: Frac-Rac Woggle Bug

2006-06-07 by drmabuce

Good 'Morning' Professor,

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Grant Richter" <grichter@...> wrote:

> An idea for that version #7 actually popped into my head today, so
the Wiard synergy is 
> still going on. It involves adding an option to un-linearizing the
"lock" circuit 

a VARIABLE curve on the damping loop????
(!)
you clandestine skunk-works utilizing DOG!!!! you!
....knowing full well that i've promised Mrs. Mabuse that i will scale
DOWN my exposure to lead fumes , i shall be forced to resort to a
production model...
(hmmmm..... maybe i'll sell the cats!....... they might still be KINDA
cute!)

> One technical challenge is the 300 series "Bugs" make use of 10
jacks and 5 controls. 8 
> jacks and 4 controls is pretty much the limit for a 3 inch Frac-Rac
module. But 4.5" 
> modules are awkward in the Frac format.
> 

would a concentric pot raise the production price out of
sight? .... i know the knobs for those gadgets can be outrageous expensive
or....
maybe a package deal with a JAG? As Mr. Carrigan points out, the Wbug
and the JAG work really well
together.

over & out
-doc

Re: Frac-Rac Woggle Bug

2006-06-07 by drj3rk

I didn't know they were up that high (revision-wise.)  If I end up
building one, I shall have to reserve #16 or something.  :)  The #16
Standard Wogglebug!  Now that I know you're thinking about making an
official 1200 series bug though, I might just wait for that, and put
my experimentation resources into something different.  (currently
trying to desgin a SID compatible module minus the filter section) 3
phase accumulation oscillators that route the same way the SID does,
for that pseudo ring modulation and other weirdness.

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Grant Richter" <grichter@...> wrote:
>
> I really want to make a 1200 series Woggle Bug. It is Wiards most
popular product. The 
> original design work went up to version #6, which included a not
that successful full time 
> "wind/surf" patch. Mike Murphy has the prototype.
> 
> Just like the Borg 2, I want to add an additional flavor to the
design. Make a version #7.
> 
> An idea for that version #7 actually popped into my head today, so
the Wiard synergy is 
> still going on. It involves adding an option to un-linearizing the
"lock" circuit to add more 
> freak out to the blipping, so woggle transitions are woggly AND
chaotic. That is the official 
> technical description. ;^)
> 
> I like to add something new, so the 1200 series isn't just a
duplicate of the 300 series 
> version. It is my personal aesthetic, but also so customers who
already own the 300 series 
> version have reason to add the 1200 series version.
> 
> One technical challenge is the 300 series "Bugs" make use of 10
jacks and 5 controls. 8 
> jacks and 4 controls is pretty much the limit for a 3 inch Frac-Rac
module. But 4.5" 
> modules are awkward in the Frac format.
> 
> As always, thank you for your support, and for contributing to this
community.
> 
> --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Pierre Zeeman" <pierrezee@> wrote:
> >
> > >http://web.newsguy.com/gustav/mp3/Super%20Sticky.mp3
> > 
> > wow.  I really like that.  Any chance of a 1200 series bug?
> > 
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Discover the magic of RSS feeds at MSN South Africa!
http://za.msn.com/
> >
>

Re: Frac-Rac Woggle Bug

2006-06-07 by drj3rk

Another 4.5" advocate here.  There are a few different 4.5" modules
available in frac format these days.

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, damon <damon@...> wrote:
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> Grant: Same opinion.  Bring on the 4.5" Frac Woggle!
> 
> On Jun 7, 2006, at 12:10 AM, Bryan Carrigan wrote:
> 
> > But would be perfect to help fill up a frac rack with a jag ; )
> >
> > On Jun 6, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Grant Richter wrote:
> > >
> > > But 4.5" modules are awkward in the Frac format.
> >
> >
>

Re: [wiardgroup] Frac-Rac Woggle Bug

2006-06-07 by Robair, Gino

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Go large and give us the whole enchilada!

Speaking for myself, the larger size isn\u2019t awkward, at least now that Blacet has the thinner modules, such as the LFO, the scanner, and the sequential switch. Or, a person can just put it next to a JAG in his or her rack and things start to even out....

On 6/6/06 11:01 PM, "Grant Richter" scribbled:

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I really want to make a 1200 series Woggle Bug. It is Wiards most popular product. The
original design work went up to version #6, which included a not that successful full time
"wind/surf" patch. Mike Murphy has the prototype.

Just like the Borg 2, I want to add an additional flavor to the design. Make a version #7.

An idea for that version #7 actually popped into my head today, so the Wiard synergy is
still going on. It involves adding an option to un-linearizing the "lock" circuit to add more
freak out to the blipping, so woggle transitions are woggly AND chaotic. That is the official
technical description. ;^)

I like to add something new, so the 1200 series isn't just a duplicate of the 300 series
version. It is my personal aesthetic, but also so customers who already own the 300 series
version have reason to add the 1200 series version.

One technical challenge is the 300 series "Bugs" make use of 10 jacks and 5 controls. 8
jacks and 4 controls is pretty much the limit for a 3 inch Frac-Rac module. But 4.5"
modules are awkward in the Frac format.

As always, thank you for your support, and for contributing to this community.

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com , "Pierre Zeeman" wrote:
>
> >http://web.newsguy.com/gustav/mp3/Super%20Sticky.mp3
>
> wow. I really like that. Any chance of a 1200 series bug?
>
> __________________________________________________________
> Discover the magic of RSS feeds at MSN South Africa! http://za.msn.com/
>




RE: [wiardgroup] Frac-Rac Woggle Bug

2006-06-07 by Tim J

4.5" modules aren't that bad...when they can be bought in pairs or groups 
they would be great... jag, wogglebug..... perhaps the walkabout module....

Tim
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>From: "Grant Richter" <grichter@asapnet.net>
>Reply-To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com
>To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [wiardgroup] Frac-Rac Woggle Bug
>Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 06:01:56 -0000
>
>I really want to make a 1200 series Woggle Bug. It is Wiards most popular 
>product. The
>original design work went up to version #6, which included a not that 
>successful full time
>"wind/surf" patch. Mike Murphy has the prototype.
>
>Just like the Borg 2, I want to add an additional flavor to the design. 
>Make a version #7.
>
>An idea for that version #7 actually popped into my head today, so the 
>Wiard synergy is
>still going on. It involves adding an option to un-linearizing the "lock" 
>circuit to add more
>freak out to the blipping, so woggle transitions are woggly AND chaotic. 
>That is the official
>technical description. ;^)
>
>I like to add something new, so the 1200 series isn't just a duplicate of 
>the 300 series
>version. It is my personal aesthetic, but also so customers who already own 
>the 300 series
>version have reason to add the 1200 series version.
>
>One technical challenge is the 300 series "Bugs" make use of 10 jacks and 5 
>controls. 8
>jacks and 4 controls is pretty much the limit for a 3 inch Frac-Rac module. 
>But 4.5"
>modules are awkward in the Frac format.
>
>As always, thank you for your support, and for contributing to this 
>community.
>
>--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Pierre Zeeman" <pierrezee@...> wrote:
> >
> > >http://web.newsguy.com/gustav/mp3/Super%20Sticky.mp3
> >
> > wow.  I really like that.  Any chance of a 1200 series bug?
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Discover the magic of RSS feeds at MSN South Africa! http://za.msn.com/
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Re: Frac-Rac Woggle Bug

2006-06-08 by the finger

lovely.  the idea i have for my portable case has expanded, and I have room for whatever 
size you make it.  4.5" of woggle will be just fine by me.  woo!

if wiard made a half frac sized module what would it be???

Re: Frac-Rac Woggle Bug

2006-06-08 by Gary Chang

As a guy who has 3 Woggles already, I will always welcome another
knob-turner that doesn't deplete the alcoholic beverage supplies....8')


gc

Re: Frac-Rac Woggle Bug

2006-06-08 by data2action

i've even got a couple of 6" modules, plus a number of 4.5", so seems 
like no big deal to me.

i've also done a bunch of 1.5" modules: CGS Steiner filter, PsycoLFO, 
attenuator/mults, 3-1 mixers, bandpass filter... winds up being 
pretty easy to mix-n-match

bbob

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Tim J" <bob_aloha@...> wrote:
>
> 4.5" modules aren't that bad...when they can be bought in pairs or 
groups 
> they would be great... jag, wogglebug..... perhaps the walkabout 
module....
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Grant Richter" <grichter@...>
> >Reply-To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com
> >To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [wiardgroup] Frac-Rac Woggle Bug
> >Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 06:01:56 -0000
> >
> >I really want to make a 1200 series Woggle Bug. It is Wiards most 
popular 
> >product. The
> >original design work went up to version #6, which included a not 
that 
> >successful full time
> >"wind/surf" patch. Mike Murphy has the prototype.
> >
> >Just like the Borg 2, I want to add an additional flavor to the 
design. 
> >Make a version #7.
> >
> >An idea for that version #7 actually popped into my head today, so 
the 
> >Wiard synergy is
> >still going on. It involves adding an option to un-linearizing 
the "lock" 
> >circuit to add more
> >freak out to the blipping, so woggle transitions are woggly AND 
chaotic. 
> >That is the official
> >technical description. ;^)
> >
> >I like to add something new, so the 1200 series isn't just a 
duplicate of 
> >the 300 series
> >version. It is my personal aesthetic, but also so customers who 
already own 
> >the 300 series
> >version have reason to add the 1200 series version.
> >
> >One technical challenge is the 300 series "Bugs" make use of 10 
jacks and 5 
> >controls. 8
> >jacks and 4 controls is pretty much the limit for a 3 inch Frac-
Rac module. 
> >But 4.5"
> >modules are awkward in the Frac format.
> >
> >As always, thank you for your support, and for contributing to 
this 
> >community.
> >

Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Frac-Rac Woggle Bug

2006-06-08 by Mark Griffiths

I'd be interested in this also. I was thinking of the JAG for the 2nd (or is it 3rd rack) I'm planning..so I already had the issue of a half space, especially as I've decided the blue versions will be the way I go.
On the other hand, it will have to be quick. The EU is looking at a paper just arrived from Prof. P.L Mandragora on Pisa University who is about to declare the Woggle bug as a major pest on salad crops.
regards, Mark

Re: Frac-Rac Woggle Bug

2006-06-08 by denshiblocks

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Grant Richter" <grichter@...> 
wrote:
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> I really want to make a 1200 series Woggle Bug. 

i REALLY want you to make a 1200 series woggle bug!  if the panel is 
4.5" ill probably repackage it more compact for my system (with davies 
knobs) but any size is fine!

ps - on a silly note, can you make more loyal order of woggle bug 
shirts?  heehe

best wishes
seth nemec
bananalogue.com

Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Frac-Rac Woggle Bug

2006-06-08 by Dennis Verschoor

Wohaaa t-shirts would be cool!
Maybe a Borg t-shirt to?

Regards,

Dennis

On 6/8/06, denshiblocks < denshiblocks@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Grant Richter"
wrote:
>
> I really want to make a 1200 series Woggle Bug.

i REALLY want you to make a 1200 series woggle bug! if the panel is
4.5" ill probably repackage it more compact for my system (with davies
knobs) but any size is fine!

ps - on a silly note, can you make more loyal order of woggle bug
shirts? heehe

best wishes
seth nemec
bananalogue.com




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Re: [wiardgroup] Frac-Rac Woggle Bug

2006-06-09 by Andris Tauvers

Hey Grant makethe Woggle  six frac spaces and add on your Sequantizer module 
for good measure.
now that would be seriously fun voltage control.  Keep up the fantastic 
designs.

Andris Tauvers
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>Reply-To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com
>To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [wiardgroup] Frac-Rac Woggle Bug
>Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 03:40:15 -0700
>
>Grant: Same opinion.  Bring on the 4.5" Frac Woggle!
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>On Jun 7, 2006, at 12:10 AM, Bryan Carrigan wrote:
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> > But would be perfect to help fill up a frac rack with a jag ; )
> >
> > On Jun 6, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Grant Richter wrote:
> > >
> > > But 4.5" modules are awkward in the Frac format.
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