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2006-09-14 by Gary Chang

HDibrell@... wrote:
>
>  
 I also used  to drool over car magazines in the mid '60's , picturing 
> myself in that Ferrari,  Maserati or Lamborghini. 

yes, and what about those old covers of High Times Magazine?

When all is said and done, I, too, am happier not to bother myself
anymore with the spoils of youth. (I don't need chemical inducement to
feel dizzy and nauseated nowadays). 8+)

One don't need to convince me that the analog gear of the present is
better than that of the past - it is.  I just have to convice my
spouse that the cardboard boxes in the mail have parts to fix the
washing machine...


gc

Re: [wiardgroup] The reviews rant (was Re: this reply performs at all publish...

2006-09-14 by HDibrell@aol.com

In a message dated 9/14/2006 10:02:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, drmabuce@yahoo.com writes:
The change is in me.
Synths are no worse, nor are synth magazines.
i've just lost my youthful ability to be cheerfully oblivious to the
ubiquitious down-side, and focus with ardent desire on that one
holy-grail piece of gear (du jour!)i wanted. i remember clearly how
much i iconized my first 2600 and later, my Xpander. Hell! i remember
how dazzled i was at the ravishing sleekness of the DX7 .... oblivious
to how thoroughly that sleekness would handcuff me when i tried to
adjust a velocity response.....
Well said. There really is little difference. I just think there is a lot more of the same. We used to have to look pretty hard for the magazines or wait a whole month for another issue. Now with 24 hour news cycles, no sign off on television and unbelievable amounts of information on the internet it appears to be worse. The same quality and lack of quality is there. The same hype as well. I was just looking through a 1974 issue of Crawdaddy magazine yesterday. The adds are the best part. Even better are the downloads of Polyphony on Cynthia's website. When I think back on those times , they seem so pure. But ,in reality there was little difference to now. Age does change our perspective. I also used to drool over car magazines in the mid '60's , picturing myself in that Ferrari, Maserati or Lamborghini. Now I'm perfectly content to tool around in my Toyota Corrolla and go home to a home studio of mostly older gear. Not necessarily vintage, just older. It works for me. I also remember being "dazzled" enough to sell my Synthi AKS in order to buy a Siel DK-600 and a Fostex cassette 4-track. Ooh, I wished I hadn't remembered that. Now I won't be able to sleep tonight. Harry D

L.O.W.

2006-09-14 by drmabuce

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, HDibrell@... wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 9/14/2006 10:02:01 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
> drmabuce@... writes:
> 
> The  change is in me.
> Synths are no worse, nor are synth  magazines.
> i've  just lost my youthful ability to be cheerfully  oblivious to the
> ubiquitious down-side, and focus with ardent desire on  that one
> holy-grail piece of gear (du jour!)i wanted.  i remember  clearly how
> much i iconized my first 2600 and later, my Xpander. Hell! i  remember
> how dazzled i was at the ravishing sleekness of the DX7 ....  oblivious
> to how thoroughly that sleekness would handcuff me when i tried  to
> adjust a velocity response.....
> 
> 
> Well said. There really is little difference. I just think there is
a lot  
> more of the same. We used to have to look pretty hard for the
magazines or wait  
> a whole month for another issue. Now with 24 hour news cycles, no
sign off on 
>  television and unbelievable amounts of information on the internet it 
> appears to  be worse. The same quality and lack of quality is there.
The same hype 
> as well.  I was just looking through a 1974 issue of Crawdaddy magazine 
> yesterday. The  adds are the best part. Even better are the
downloads of Polyphony on 
> Cynthia's  website. When I think back on those times , they seem so
pure. But 
> ,in reality  there was little difference to now. Age does change our 
> perspective. I also used  to drool over car magazines in the mid
'60's , picturing 
> myself in that Ferrari,  Maserati or Lamborghini. Now I'm perfectly
content to 
> tool around in my Toyota  Corrolla and go home to a home studio of
mostly older 
> gear. Not necessarily  vintage, just older. It works for me. I also
remember 
> being "dazzled" enough to  sell my Synthi AKS in order to buy a Siel
DK-600 and 
> a Fostex cassette 4-track.  Ooh, I wished I hadn't remembered that.
Now I 
> won't be able to sleep  tonight.                Harry D
>

L.O.W. (for real this time)

2006-09-14 by drmabuce

(apologies to all for the misfired post)

To my  L.O.W. comrades,

 as i remain vegetarian and thus, fear the mollusks... (and i am an
indifferent swimmer at best)
i humbly throw myself on the mercy of the Security Council and beg
forgiveness for my indiscretion. As recompense i offer Wiard shipping
containers labelled "Genuine Maytag Replacement Parts" and the return
of the 'Tourette's Circuit' schematics that i purloined from the
temple vault.
Commensurate with my oath i will abide by the Supreme Council's decision.

-Dr. Alphonse Caspar Maubuse, pampered menial, Loyal Order of Wogglebug

to Harry D.
re:
> I also remember 
> being "dazzled" enough to  sell my Synthi AKS in order to buy a Siel
DK-600 and 
> a Fostex cassette 4-track.  
 OOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
oh! THANKS Harry ...
now ----I----- won't even sleep tonight either!
are you sure you're not secretly the sargeant at arms???
hmmmmmmm....



HEY yer WoGGLENESS!!!!!
did you guys make Harry D. The sargeant-at-arms at another of your
'secret' executive council meetings that always seem to conflict with
my gigs? 
if so.... i'm TELLIN'!!!!!

-doc

Re: [wiardgroup] Re: the Real Wiard system package

2006-09-14 by amnesia

sorry I should have said f****** disappointing, a lovely modular that 
was once a reasonable price has now become unobtainable :-(



Oh bugger I just sold my time machine for $9000 and it looks to be the 
same cost as the Wiard now!

Any reason why the price has tripled in 7 years? Thats ****ing crazy!


Grant Richter wrote:

Only if you have a time machine to go back to 1999 ;^)

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, 
"cray5656" <amni56@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
 >
 > is the Real Wiard system package still available $3299? I would like
 > to buy one :-)
> .
>
>

Re: the Real Wiard system package

2006-09-15 by Grant Richter

> Any reason why the price has tripled in 7 years? Thats ****ing crazy!

Because it is a really well designed, well thought out instrument that compact, reliable and 
highly effective.

The price increase has to do with the crazy state of the whole music electronics industry and 
not any personal or corporate greed.

Re: the Real Wiard system package

2006-09-15 by Grant Richter

> The price increase has to do with the crazy state of the whole music electronics industry 
and not any personal or corporate greed.

I should clarify: Not MY greed. I am not a greedy person. You DO NOT make musical 
instruments if you are greedy. If you are greedy, you get in the oil business.

To illustrate: When I was still selling modules new for $479.00, two businesses spang up 
which would buy modules from me at the low price and immediately resell them for $750.00 
the day they were received.

It is basic business logic that if you can purchase something directly from the manufacturer 
or hand-crafter and immediately turn around and resell it for a $300 profit, then the item is 
under-priced to begin with.

So much for my well meaning but naive attempt to keep prices reasonable for the "real" 
musicians and enthusiasts.

It is other peoples greed that drove the prices up insanely fast, not mine.

Re: [wiardgroup] Re: the Real Wiard system package

2006-09-15 by amnesia

That is sad as I will never be able to enjoy / afford such art :-(

I could swap you some oil for a system :-)


Grant Richter wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> > The price increase has to do with the crazy state of the whole music 
> electronics industry
> and not any personal or corporate greed.
>
> I should clarify: Not MY greed. I am not a greedy person. You DO NOT 
> make musical
> instruments if you are greedy. If you are greedy, you get in the oil 
> business.
>
> To illustrate: When I was still selling modules new for $479.00, two 
> businesses spang up
> which would buy modules from me at the low price and immediately 
> resell them for $750.00
> the day they were received.
>
> It is basic business logic that if you can purchase something directly 
> from the manufacturer
> or hand-crafter and immediately turn around and resell it for a $300 
> profit, then the item is
> under-priced to begin with.
>
> So much for my well meaning but naive attempt to keep prices 
> reasonable for the "real"
> musicians and enthusiasts.
>
> It is other peoples greed that drove the prices up insanely fast, not 
> mine.
>
>

Re: the Real Wiard system package

2006-09-15 by Grant Richter

The 1200 series modules are quite affordable and in some ways an improvement on the 
300 series.

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, amnesia <amni56@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> That is sad as I will never be able to enjoy / afford such art :-(
> 
> I could swap you some oil for a system :-)
> 
> 
> Grant Richter wrote:
> >
> > > The price increase has to do with the crazy state of the whole music 
> > electronics industry
> > and not any personal or corporate greed.
> >
> > I should clarify: Not MY greed. I am not a greedy person. You DO NOT 
> > make musical
> > instruments if you are greedy. If you are greedy, you get in the oil 
> > business.
> >
> > To illustrate: When I was still selling modules new for $479.00, two 
> > businesses spang up
> > which would buy modules from me at the low price and immediately 
> > resell them for $750.00
> > the day they were received.
> >
> > It is basic business logic that if you can purchase something directly 
> > from the manufacturer
> > or hand-crafter and immediately turn around and resell it for a $300 
> > profit, then the item is
> > under-priced to begin with.
> >
> > So much for my well meaning but naive attempt to keep prices 
> > reasonable for the "real"
> > musicians and enthusiasts.
> >
> > It is other peoples greed that drove the prices up insanely fast, not 
> > mine.
> >
> >
>

Re: [wiardgroup] Re: the Real Wiard system package

2006-09-15 by amnesia

I cant see you have VCOs Sequencer etc of the 300 series. Will this ever 
be the case?

Grant Richter wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> The 1200 series modules are quite affordable and in some ways an 
> improvement on the
> 300 series.
>
> --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia <amni56@...> wrote:
> >
> > That is sad as I will never be able to enjoy / afford such art :-(
> >
> > I could swap you some oil for a system :-)
> >
> >
> > Grant Richter wrote:
> > >
> > > > The price increase has to do with the crazy state of the whole 
> music
> > > electronics industry
> > > and not any personal or corporate greed.
> > >
> > > I should clarify: Not MY greed. I am not a greedy person. You DO NOT
> > > make musical
> > > instruments if you are greedy. If you are greedy, you get in the oil
> > > business.
> > >
> > > To illustrate: When I was still selling modules new for $479.00, two
> > > businesses spang up
> > > which would buy modules from me at the low price and immediately
> > > resell them for $750.00
> > > the day they were received.
> > >
> > > It is basic business logic that if you can purchase something 
> directly
> > > from the manufacturer
> > > or hand-crafter and immediately turn around and resell it for a $300
> > > profit, then the item is
> > > under-priced to begin with.
> > >
> > > So much for my well meaning but naive attempt to keep prices
> > > reasonable for the "real"
> > > musicians and enthusiasts.
> > >
> > > It is other peoples greed that drove the prices up insanely fast, not
> > > mine.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

Re: the Real Wiard system package

2006-09-30 by Grant Richter

The goal of the 300 series was a cross between an ARP 2600 and a Music Easel.

The goal of the 1200 series is a cross between a Synthi and a Music Easel.

It is very Joystick centric because of the Synthi heritage and because Joystick synths are 
kinda rare. It is also designed so that the whole assemblage of modules will fit inside a 
suitcase type case which sits horizontaly.

The Noise Ring is the noise source which is combined with a complex oscillator for pitched 
events.

I am working on a new complex oscillator design. It shows promise. It will have unique 
features never before offered in a VCO.

I would like to do an "Envelooper" which would generate multiple simultaneous 1024 point 
envelopes (256 points each for A, D, S, and R with individual segment rate control). One 
output will be calibrated for 1 volt per octave pitch control. The Wave256 software would 
be used to store sequences and envelope shapes in EPROM.

Not the same as a sequencer but the end result IS sequences.

This would allow you to store pitch sequence, timbre sequence and spectral envelopes 
(lopass gate control) together. That way, you just trigger an envelope and it plays an entire 
musical "gesture" with pitch, timbre and mutiple envelope events for individually 
articulated notes inside the overall gesture. These gestures could last for minutes or 
milliseconds depending on segment rate settings.


--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, amnesia <amni56@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> I cant see you have VCOs Sequencer etc of the 300 series. Will this ever 
> be the case?
> 
> Grant Richter wrote:
> >
> > The 1200 series modules are quite affordable and in some ways an 
> > improvement on the
> > 300 series.
> >
> > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia <amni56@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That is sad as I will never be able to enjoy / afford such art :-(
> > >
> > > I could swap you some oil for a system :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > Grant Richter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The price increase has to do with the crazy state of the whole 
> > music
> > > > electronics industry
> > > > and not any personal or corporate greed.
> > > >
> > > > I should clarify: Not MY greed. I am not a greedy person. You DO NOT
> > > > make musical
> > > > instruments if you are greedy. If you are greedy, you get in the oil
> > > > business.
> > > >
> > > > To illustrate: When I was still selling modules new for $479.00, two
> > > > businesses spang up
> > > > which would buy modules from me at the low price and immediately
> > > > resell them for $750.00
> > > > the day they were received.
> > > >
> > > > It is basic business logic that if you can purchase something 
> > directly
> > > > from the manufacturer
> > > > or hand-crafter and immediately turn around and resell it for a $300
> > > > profit, then the item is
> > > > under-priced to begin with.
> > > >
> > > > So much for my well meaning but naive attempt to keep prices
> > > > reasonable for the "real"
> > > > musicians and enthusiasts.
> > > >
> > > > It is other peoples greed that drove the prices up insanely fast, not
> > > > mine.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

Re: [wiardgroup] Re: the Real Wiard system package

2006-10-01 by amnesia

Grant

The day you have a full 1200 system is the day you have my order, I dont 
currently have any frac units, just serge and euro.
I cant wait for that day :-)

Ross



Grant Richter wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> The goal of the 300 series was a cross between an ARP 2600 and a Music 
> Easel.
>
> The goal of the 1200 series is a cross between a Synthi and a Music Easel.
>
> It is very Joystick centric because of the Synthi heritage and because 
> Joystick synths are
> kinda rare. It is also designed so that the whole assemblage of 
> modules will fit inside a
> suitcase type case which sits horizontaly.
>
> The Noise Ring is the noise source which is combined with a complex 
> oscillator for pitched
> events.
>
> I am working on a new complex oscillator design. It shows promise. It 
> will have unique
> features never before offered in a VCO.
>
> I would like to do an "Envelooper" which would generate multiple 
> simultaneous 1024 point
> envelopes (256 points each for A, D, S, and R with individual segment 
> rate control). One
> output will be calibrated for 1 volt per octave pitch control. The 
> Wave256 software would
> be used to store sequences and envelope shapes in EPROM.
>
> Not the same as a sequencer but the end result IS sequences.
>
> This would allow you to store pitch sequence, timbre sequence and 
> spectral envelopes
> (lopass gate control) together. That way, you just trigger an envelope 
> and it plays an entire
> musical "gesture" with pitch, timbre and mutiple envelope events for 
> individually
> articulated notes inside the overall gesture. These gestures could 
> last for minutes or
> milliseconds depending on segment rate settings.
>
> --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia <amni56@...> wrote:
> >
> > I cant see you have VCOs Sequencer etc of the 300 series. Will this 
> ever
> > be the case?
> >
> > Grant Richter wrote:
> > >
> > > The 1200 series modules are quite affordable and in some ways an
> > > improvement on the
> > > 300 series.
> > >
> > > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia <amni56@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That is sad as I will never be able to enjoy / afford such art :-(
> > > >
> > > > I could swap you some oil for a system :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Grant Richter wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The price increase has to do with the crazy state of the whole
> > > music
> > > > > electronics industry
> > > > > and not any personal or corporate greed.
> > > > >
> > > > > I should clarify: Not MY greed. I am not a greedy person. You 
> DO NOT
> > > > > make musical
> > > > > instruments if you are greedy. If you are greedy, you get in 
> the oil
> > > > > business.
> > > > >
> > > > > To illustrate: When I was still selling modules new for 
> $479.00, two
> > > > > businesses spang up
> > > > > which would buy modules from me at the low price and immediately
> > > > > resell them for $750.00
> > > > > the day they were received.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is basic business logic that if you can purchase something
> > > directly
> > > > > from the manufacturer
> > > > > or hand-crafter and immediately turn around and resell it for 
> a $300
> > > > > profit, then the item is
> > > > > under-priced to begin with.
> > > > >
> > > > > So much for my well meaning but naive attempt to keep prices
> > > > > reasonable for the "real"
> > > > > musicians and enthusiasts.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is other peoples greed that drove the prices up insanely 
> fast, not
> > > > > mine.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

Re: [wiardgroup] Re: the Real Wiard system package

2006-10-01 by Mark Griffiths

This sounds really exciting! Interestingly I came to this whole hardware modular world via the EMS VCS3. I was using a VCS3 soft synth emulation that really wasn't cutting it, particularly in the joystick department so I started thinking about getting a real VCS3 (I'd always wanted one from the 70s and had borrowed a friends in the 80s). I'm on the list but had a long wait ahead of me, so I thought, ok..why don't I see what else is interesting available now? And here I am.
Looking forward to getting more of the current modules and seeing what the Wiard future brings.
all the best, mark


Grant Richter wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
The goal of the 300 series was a cross between an ARP 2600 and a Music Easel.

The goal of the 1200 series is a cross between a Synthi and a Music Easel.

It is very Joystick centric because of the Synthi heritage and because Joystick synths are
kinda rare. It is also designed so that the whole assemblage of modules will fit inside a
suitcase type case which sits horizontaly.

The Noise Ring is the noise source which is combined with a complex oscillator for pitched
events.

I am working on a new complex oscillator design. It shows promise. It will have unique
features never before offered in a VCO.

I would like to do an "Envelooper" which would generate multiple simultaneous 1024 point
envelopes (256 points each for A, D, S, and R with individual segment rate control). One
output will be calibrated for 1 volt per octave pitch control. The Wave256 software would
be used to store sequences and envelope shapes in EPROM.

Not the same as a sequencer but the end result IS sequences.

This would allow you to store pitch sequence, timbre sequence and spectral envelopes
(lopass gate control) together. That way, you just trigger an envelope and it plays an entire
musical "gesture" with pitch, timbre and mutiple envelope events for individually
articulated notes inside the overall gesture. These gestures could last for minutes or
milliseconds depending on segment rate settings.

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, amnesia wrote:
>
> I cant see you have VCOs Sequencer etc of the 300 series. Will this ever
> be the case?
>
> Grant Richter wrote:
> >
> > The 1200 series modules are quite affordable and in some ways an
> > improvement on the
> > 300 series.
> >
> > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com
> > 40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia wrote:
> > >
> > > That is sad as I will never be able to enjoy / afford such art :-(
> > >
> > > I could swap you some oil for a system :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > Grant Richter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The price increase has to do with the crazy state of the whole
> > music
> > > > electronics industry
> > > > and not any personal or corporate greed.
> > > >
> > > > I should clarify: Not MY greed. I am not a greedy person. You DO NOT
> > > > make musical
> > > > instruments if you are greedy. If you are greedy, you get in the oil
> > > > business.
> > > >
> > > > To illustrate: When I was still selling modules new for $479.00, two
> > > > businesses spang up
> > > > which would buy modules from me at the low price and immediately
> > > > resell them for $750.00
> > > > the day they were received.
> > > >
> > > > It is basic business logic that if you can purchase something
> > directly
> > > > from the manufacturer
> > > > or hand-crafter and immediately turn around and resell it for a $300
> > > > profit, then the item is
> > > > under-priced to begin with.
> > > >
> > > > So much for my well meaning but naive attempt to keep prices
> > > > reasonable for the "real"
> > > > musicians and enthusiasts.
> > > >
> > > > It is other peoples greed that drove the prices up insanely fast, not
> > > > mine.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>


Re: the Real Wiard system package

2006-10-01 by Grant Richter

That attitude absolutely garantees it will never happen.

Without ongoing module sales, there is no way to fund development.

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, amnesia <amni56@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> Grant
> 
> The day you have a full 1200 system is the day you have my order, I dont 
> currently have any frac units, just serge and euro.
> I cant wait for that day :-)
> 
> Ross
> 
> 
> 
> Grant Richter wrote:
> >
> > The goal of the 300 series was a cross between an ARP 2600 and a Music 
> > Easel.
> >
> > The goal of the 1200 series is a cross between a Synthi and a Music Easel.
> >
> > It is very Joystick centric because of the Synthi heritage and because 
> > Joystick synths are
> > kinda rare. It is also designed so that the whole assemblage of 
> > modules will fit inside a
> > suitcase type case which sits horizontaly.
> >
> > The Noise Ring is the noise source which is combined with a complex 
> > oscillator for pitched
> > events.
> >
> > I am working on a new complex oscillator design. It shows promise. It 
> > will have unique
> > features never before offered in a VCO.
> >
> > I would like to do an "Envelooper" which would generate multiple 
> > simultaneous 1024 point
> > envelopes (256 points each for A, D, S, and R with individual segment 
> > rate control). One
> > output will be calibrated for 1 volt per octave pitch control. The 
> > Wave256 software would
> > be used to store sequences and envelope shapes in EPROM.
> >
> > Not the same as a sequencer but the end result IS sequences.
> >
> > This would allow you to store pitch sequence, timbre sequence and 
> > spectral envelopes
> > (lopass gate control) together. That way, you just trigger an envelope 
> > and it plays an entire
> > musical "gesture" with pitch, timbre and mutiple envelope events for 
> > individually
> > articulated notes inside the overall gesture. These gestures could 
> > last for minutes or
> > milliseconds depending on segment rate settings.
> >
> > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia <amni56@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I cant see you have VCOs Sequencer etc of the 300 series. Will this 
> > ever
> > > be the case?
> > >
> > > Grant Richter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The 1200 series modules are quite affordable and in some ways an
> > > > improvement on the
> > > > 300 series.
> > > >
> > > > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia <amni56@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > That is sad as I will never be able to enjoy / afford such art :-(
> > > > >
> > > > > I could swap you some oil for a system :-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Grant Richter wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The price increase has to do with the crazy state of the whole
> > > > music
> > > > > > electronics industry
> > > > > > and not any personal or corporate greed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I should clarify: Not MY greed. I am not a greedy person. You 
> > DO NOT
> > > > > > make musical
> > > > > > instruments if you are greedy. If you are greedy, you get in 
> > the oil
> > > > > > business.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To illustrate: When I was still selling modules new for 
> > $479.00, two
> > > > > > businesses spang up
> > > > > > which would buy modules from me at the low price and immediately
> > > > > > resell them for $750.00
> > > > > > the day they were received.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is basic business logic that if you can purchase something
> > > > directly
> > > > > > from the manufacturer
> > > > > > or hand-crafter and immediately turn around and resell it for 
> > a $300
> > > > > > profit, then the item is
> > > > > > under-priced to begin with.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So much for my well meaning but naive attempt to keep prices
> > > > > > reasonable for the "real"
> > > > > > musicians and enthusiasts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is other peoples greed that drove the prices up insanely 
> > fast, not
> > > > > > mine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

Re: the Real Wiard system package

2006-10-01 by Grant Richter

Following the same logic, what if everyone refused to listen to anyones music except their 
LAST composition or recording?

That attitude would certainly dampen the enthusiasm of all musicians and composers.

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Grant Richter" <grichter@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> That attitude absolutely garantees it will never happen.
> 
> Without ongoing module sales, there is no way to fund development.
> 
> --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, amnesia <amni56@> wrote:
> >
> > Grant
> > 
> > The day you have a full 1200 system is the day you have my order, I dont 
> > currently have any frac units, just serge and euro.
> > I cant wait for that day :-)
> > 
> > Ross
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Grant Richter wrote:
> > >
> > > The goal of the 300 series was a cross between an ARP 2600 and a Music 
> > > Easel.
> > >
> > > The goal of the 1200 series is a cross between a Synthi and a Music Easel.
> > >
> > > It is very Joystick centric because of the Synthi heritage and because 
> > > Joystick synths are
> > > kinda rare. It is also designed so that the whole assemblage of 
> > > modules will fit inside a
> > > suitcase type case which sits horizontaly.
> > >
> > > The Noise Ring is the noise source which is combined with a complex 
> > > oscillator for pitched
> > > events.
> > >
> > > I am working on a new complex oscillator design. It shows promise. It 
> > > will have unique
> > > features never before offered in a VCO.
> > >
> > > I would like to do an "Envelooper" which would generate multiple 
> > > simultaneous 1024 point
> > > envelopes (256 points each for A, D, S, and R with individual segment 
> > > rate control). One
> > > output will be calibrated for 1 volt per octave pitch control. The 
> > > Wave256 software would
> > > be used to store sequences and envelope shapes in EPROM.
> > >
> > > Not the same as a sequencer but the end result IS sequences.
> > >
> > > This would allow you to store pitch sequence, timbre sequence and 
> > > spectral envelopes
> > > (lopass gate control) together. That way, you just trigger an envelope 
> > > and it plays an entire
> > > musical "gesture" with pitch, timbre and mutiple envelope events for 
> > > individually
> > > articulated notes inside the overall gesture. These gestures could 
> > > last for minutes or
> > > milliseconds depending on segment rate settings.
> > >
> > > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com 
> > > <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia <amni56@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I cant see you have VCOs Sequencer etc of the 300 series. Will this 
> > > ever
> > > > be the case?
> > > >
> > > > Grant Richter wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The 1200 series modules are quite affordable and in some ways an
> > > > > improvement on the
> > > > > 300 series.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com 
> > > <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia <amni56@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That is sad as I will never be able to enjoy / afford such art :-(
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I could swap you some oil for a system :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Grant Richter wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The price increase has to do with the crazy state of the whole
> > > > > music
> > > > > > > electronics industry
> > > > > > > and not any personal or corporate greed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I should clarify: Not MY greed. I am not a greedy person. You 
> > > DO NOT
> > > > > > > make musical
> > > > > > > instruments if you are greedy. If you are greedy, you get in 
> > > the oil
> > > > > > > business.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To illustrate: When I was still selling modules new for 
> > > $479.00, two
> > > > > > > businesses spang up
> > > > > > > which would buy modules from me at the low price and immediately
> > > > > > > resell them for $750.00
> > > > > > > the day they were received.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is basic business logic that if you can purchase something
> > > > > directly
> > > > > > > from the manufacturer
> > > > > > > or hand-crafter and immediately turn around and resell it for 
> > > a $300
> > > > > > > profit, then the item is
> > > > > > > under-priced to begin with.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So much for my well meaning but naive attempt to keep prices
> > > > > > > reasonable for the "real"
> > > > > > > musicians and enthusiasts.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is other peoples greed that drove the prices up insanely 
> > > fast, not
> > > > > > > mine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

RE: [wiardgroup] Re: the Real Wiard system package

2006-10-01 by Tim J

Yes but....

Its a silly, strange, fetish market (modular synths).  While they are 
entirely modular any any system can be used with any other no matter the 
difference... people still like to purchase a 'system' from a manufacturer.  
Its true in the frac system wiard, blacet, pai and motm can make a complete 
system, a very complete weird and wonderful system but...people from my 
observations are more likely to stick with one maker rather have a mixed 
system or they also frequently have different systems which they dont mix.  
I'm not trying to justify this trend (I currently have serge, plan b, 
doepfer, technosaurus, and some others all working together) but have found 
it to be true.

Tim
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>From: "Grant Richter" <grichter@asapnet.net>
>Reply-To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com
>To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [wiardgroup] Re: the Real Wiard system package
>Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:41:17 -0000
>
>Following the same logic, what if everyone refused to listen to anyones 
>music except their
>LAST composition or recording?
>
>That attitude would certainly dampen the enthusiasm of all musicians and 
>composers.
>
>--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Grant Richter" <grichter@...> wrote:
> >
> > That attitude absolutely garantees it will never happen.
> >
> > Without ongoing module sales, there is no way to fund development.
> >
> > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, amnesia <amni56@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Grant
> > >
> > > The day you have a full 1200 system is the day you have my order, I 
>dont
> > > currently have any frac units, just serge and euro.
> > > I cant wait for that day :-)
> > >
> > > Ross
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Grant Richter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The goal of the 300 series was a cross between an ARP 2600 and a 
>Music
> > > > Easel.
> > > >
> > > > The goal of the 1200 series is a cross between a Synthi and a Music 
>Easel.
> > > >
> > > > It is very Joystick centric because of the Synthi heritage and 
>because
> > > > Joystick synths are
> > > > kinda rare. It is also designed so that the whole assemblage of
> > > > modules will fit inside a
> > > > suitcase type case which sits horizontaly.
> > > >
> > > > The Noise Ring is the noise source which is combined with a complex
> > > > oscillator for pitched
> > > > events.
> > > >
> > > > I am working on a new complex oscillator design. It shows promise. 
>It
> > > > will have unique
> > > > features never before offered in a VCO.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to do an "Envelooper" which would generate multiple
> > > > simultaneous 1024 point
> > > > envelopes (256 points each for A, D, S, and R with individual 
>segment
> > > > rate control). One
> > > > output will be calibrated for 1 volt per octave pitch control. The
> > > > Wave256 software would
> > > > be used to store sequences and envelope shapes in EPROM.
> > > >
> > > > Not the same as a sequencer but the end result IS sequences.
> > > >
> > > > This would allow you to store pitch sequence, timbre sequence and
> > > > spectral envelopes
> > > > (lopass gate control) together. That way, you just trigger an 
>envelope
> > > > and it plays an entire
> > > > musical "gesture" with pitch, timbre and mutiple envelope events for
> > > > individually
> > > > articulated notes inside the overall gesture. These gestures could
> > > > last for minutes or
> > > > milliseconds depending on segment rate settings.
> > > >
> > > > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > > <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia <amni56@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I cant see you have VCOs Sequencer etc of the 300 series. Will 
>this
> > > > ever
> > > > > be the case?
> > > > >
> > > > > Grant Richter wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The 1200 series modules are quite affordable and in some ways an
> > > > > > improvement on the
> > > > > > 300 series.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > > <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia <amni56@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That is sad as I will never be able to enjoy / afford such art 
>:-(
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I could swap you some oil for a system :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Grant Richter wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The price increase has to do with the crazy state of the 
>whole
> > > > > > music
> > > > > > > > electronics industry
> > > > > > > > and not any personal or corporate greed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I should clarify: Not MY greed. I am not a greedy person. 
>You
> > > > DO NOT
> > > > > > > > make musical
> > > > > > > > instruments if you are greedy. If you are greedy, you get in
> > > > the oil
> > > > > > > > business.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To illustrate: When I was still selling modules new for
> > > > $479.00, two
> > > > > > > > businesses spang up
> > > > > > > > which would buy modules from me at the low price and 
>immediately
> > > > > > > > resell them for $750.00
> > > > > > > > the day they were received.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is basic business logic that if you can purchase 
>something
> > > > > > directly
> > > > > > > > from the manufacturer
> > > > > > > > or hand-crafter and immediately turn around and resell it 
>for
> > > > a $300
> > > > > > > > profit, then the item is
> > > > > > > > under-priced to begin with.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So much for my well meaning but naive attempt to keep prices
> > > > > > > > reasonable for the "real"
> > > > > > > > musicians and enthusiasts.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is other peoples greed that drove the prices up insanely
> > > > fast, not
> > > > > > > > mine.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [wiardgroup] Re: the Real Wiard system package

2006-10-01 by amnesia

hi grant

what i was saying was that i dont own any frac stuff at the moment, i am 
trying to keep my frankensynth the same look i.e. ssilver, i hate the 
look of black panels mixed with blue, mixed with white etc ( i know it 
is stupid but I love the overall aesthetic) that is why i am waiting for 
a complete wiard system. i am sad to say i missed the boat on your 300 
system otherwise you would have already had my money for future 
development...



Grant Richter wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> Following the same logic, what if everyone refused to listen to 
> anyones music except their
> LAST composition or recording?
>
> That attitude would certainly dampen the enthusiasm of all musicians 
> and composers.
>
> --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Grant Richter" <grichter@...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > That attitude absolutely garantees it will never happen.
> >
> > Without ongoing module sales, there is no way to fund development.
> >
> > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia <amni56@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Grant
> > >
> > > The day you have a full 1200 system is the day you have my order, 
> I dont
> > > currently have any frac units, just serge and euro.
> > > I cant wait for that day :-)
> > >
> > > Ross
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Grant Richter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The goal of the 300 series was a cross between an ARP 2600 and a 
> Music
> > > > Easel.
> > > >
> > > > The goal of the 1200 series is a cross between a Synthi and a 
> Music Easel.
> > > >
> > > > It is very Joystick centric because of the Synthi heritage and 
> because
> > > > Joystick synths are
> > > > kinda rare. It is also designed so that the whole assemblage of
> > > > modules will fit inside a
> > > > suitcase type case which sits horizontaly.
> > > >
> > > > The Noise Ring is the noise source which is combined with a complex
> > > > oscillator for pitched
> > > > events.
> > > >
> > > > I am working on a new complex oscillator design. It shows 
> promise. It
> > > > will have unique
> > > > features never before offered in a VCO.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to do an "Envelooper" which would generate multiple
> > > > simultaneous 1024 point
> > > > envelopes (256 points each for A, D, S, and R with individual 
> segment
> > > > rate control). One
> > > > output will be calibrated for 1 volt per octave pitch control. The
> > > > Wave256 software would
> > > > be used to store sequences and envelope shapes in EPROM.
> > > >
> > > > Not the same as a sequencer but the end result IS sequences.
> > > >
> > > > This would allow you to store pitch sequence, timbre sequence and
> > > > spectral envelopes
> > > > (lopass gate control) together. That way, you just trigger an 
> envelope
> > > > and it plays an entire
> > > > musical "gesture" with pitch, timbre and mutiple envelope events 
> for
> > > > individually
> > > > articulated notes inside the overall gesture. These gestures could
> > > > last for minutes or
> > > > milliseconds depending on segment rate settings.
> > > >
> > > > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia <amni56@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I cant see you have VCOs Sequencer etc of the 300 series. Will 
> this
> > > > ever
> > > > > be the case?
> > > > >
> > > > > Grant Richter wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The 1200 series modules are quite affordable and in some ways an
> > > > > > improvement on the
> > > > > > 300 series.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia <amni56@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That is sad as I will never be able to enjoy / afford such 
> art :-(
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I could swap you some oil for a system :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Grant Richter wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The price increase has to do with the crazy state of 
> the whole
> > > > > > music
> > > > > > > > electronics industry
> > > > > > > > and not any personal or corporate greed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I should clarify: Not MY greed. I am not a greedy 
> person. You
> > > > DO NOT
> > > > > > > > make musical
> > > > > > > > instruments if you are greedy. If you are greedy, you 
> get in
> > > > the oil
> > > > > > > > business.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To illustrate: When I was still selling modules new for
> > > > $479.00, two
> > > > > > > > businesses spang up
> > > > > > > > which would buy modules from me at the low price and 
> immediately
> > > > > > > > resell them for $750.00
> > > > > > > > the day they were received.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is basic business logic that if you can purchase 
> something
> > > > > > directly
> > > > > > > > from the manufacturer
> > > > > > > > or hand-crafter and immediately turn around and resell 
> it for
> > > > a $300
> > > > > > > > profit, then the item is
> > > > > > > > under-priced to begin with.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So much for my well meaning but naive attempt to keep prices
> > > > > > > > reasonable for the "real"
> > > > > > > > musicians and enthusiasts.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is other peoples greed that drove the prices up insanely
> > > > fast, not
> > > > > > > > mine.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>

Re: [wiardgroup] Re: the Real Wiard system package

2006-10-01 by Sam Ecoff

Hi Tim,

Perhaps some users want to buy a system from a single manufacturer, but I'd be willing to bet that the majority of modular users have at least two brands in their rigs. I currently have Wiard, Blacet, Metalbox, Paia, Doepfer, Modcan, Cynthia, and Arp.

:-)

Sam E.



On Oct 1, 2006, at 3:21 PM, Tim J wrote:

Yes but....

Its a silly, strange, fetish market (modular synths). While they are
entirely modular any any system can be used with any other no matter the
difference... people still like to purchase a 'system' from a manufacturer.
Its true in the frac system wiard, blacet, pai and motm can make a complete
system, a very complete weird and wonderful system but...people from my
observations are more likely to stick with one maker rather have a mixed
system or they also frequently have different systems which they dont mix.
I'm not trying to justify this trend (I currently have serge, plan b,
doepfer, technosaurus, and some others all working together) but have found
it to be true.

Tim


From: "Grant Richter" <grichter@asapnet.net>
Subject: [wiardgroup] Re: the Real Wiard system package
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:41:17 -0000

Following the same logic, what if everyone refused to listen to anyones
music except their
LAST composition or recording?

That attitude would certainly dampen the enthusiasm of all musicians and
composers.

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Grant Richter" wrote:

That attitude absolutely garantees it will never happen.

Without ongoing module sales, there is no way to fund development.

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, amnesia

Grant

The day you have a full 1200 system is the day you have my order, I
dont
currently have any frac units, just serge and euro.
I cant wait for that day :-)

Ross



Grant Richter wrote:

The goal of the 300 series was a cross between an ARP 2600 and a
Music
Easel.

The goal of the 1200 series is a cross between a Synthi and a Music
Easel.

It is very Joystick centric because of the Synthi heritage and
because
Joystick synths are
kinda rare. It is also designed so that the whole assemblage of
modules will fit inside a
suitcase type case which sits horizontaly.

The Noise Ring is the noise source which is combined with a complex
oscillator for pitched
events.

I am working on a new complex oscillator design. It shows promise.
It
will have unique
features never before offered in a VCO.

I would like to do an "Envelooper" which would generate multiple
simultaneous 1024 point
envelopes (256 points each for A, D, S, and R with individual
segment
rate control). One
output will be calibrated for 1 volt per octave pitch control. The
Wave256 software would
be used to store sequences and envelope shapes in EPROM.

Not the same as a sequencer but the end result IS sequences.

This would allow you to store pitch sequence, timbre sequence and
spectral envelopes
(lopass gate control) together. That way, you just trigger an
envelope
and it plays an entire
musical "gesture" with pitch, timbre and mutiple envelope events for
individually
articulated notes inside the overall gesture. These gestures could
last for minutes or
milliseconds depending on segment rate settings.

<mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia wrote:

I cant see you have VCOs Sequencer etc of the 300 series. Will
this
ever
be the case?

Grant Richter wrote:

The 1200 series modules are quite affordable and in some ways an
improvement on the
300 series.

<;mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia wrote:

That is sad as I will never be able to enjoy / afford such art
:-(

I could swap you some oil for a system :-)


Grant Richter wrote:

The price increase has to do with the crazy state of the
whole
music
electronics industry
and not any personal or corporate greed.

I should clarify: Not MY greed. I am not a greedy person.
You
DO NOT
make musical
instruments if you are greedy. If you are greedy, you get in
the oil
business.

To illustrate: When I was still selling modules new for
$479.00, two
businesses spang up
which would buy modules from me at the low price and
immediately
resell them for $750.00
the day they were received.

It is basic business logic that if you can purchase
something
directly
from the manufacturer
or hand-crafter and immediately turn around and resell it
for
a $300
profit, then the item is
under-priced to begin with.

So much for my well meaning but naive attempt to keep prices
reasonable for the "real"
musicians and enthusiasts.

It is other peoples greed that drove the prices up insanely
fast, not
mine.




















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skin deep...was:Re: the Real Wiard system package

2006-10-02 by drmabuce

LOL!
i observe (admittedly to my uptight alarm and dismay) that oodles of
synth discussion forums could more properly be described as synth
PANEL discussion forums.***

sigh!
emoticons fail me!
(therefore please assume that i'm typing all this with a very smartass
grin on my old gray face)

for background i refer you to a photo i just posted in the photos
section, 'interesting packaging' folder, 2nd page, photo entitled:
"bizarre wiards'
also, for a soundtrack, please imagine vikings at a table in a small
English diner singing, sotto voce, "spam spam spam spam..."

(with apologies to the 'letters section' on the National Lampoon
Magazine in the '70's)

Dear Sirs,

"many people order spam eggs spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam
and spam... but i like spam eggs spam sausage spam sausage beans eggs
bacon sausage spam eggs spam blue entropy fish bottle eggs ham spam
and a pantomime horse with Sir Kenneth Clark in front and Dick Cavett
in back , and tea"

 i like weeds in my yard , both kinds of music: country AND western,
also bop, free jazz , mainstream, ska, fusion, dixieland, tone-row,
stride, delta blues, prog, rap, crunk, baroque, dub, house, folk rock,
trance, jam, bluegrass, romantic-period, spacegrass, emo, Jethro Tull,
King Pleasure and Wendy .....AND Morton. 

i have found my wiards to be useful for all of it. Furthermore, i like
my wiards in many different colors: tall blue, short black, tall
silver, (there's a red one out there!) and if you look at the bottom
right corner of the photo you'll see that i like yellow ones too. In
the upper left of the photo you'll see a single wogglebug in black. In
the  upper right, there is a WIARD mini-wave (not Blacet!) and in the
middle , with it's guts hanging out, is a wiard-designed
anti-oscillator, which just seemed too radical to put the innards
BEHIND the panel. (i used pieces of my old Erector Set on that one).

'Silly' and 'Fetish' are words that appear in mind often too, and my
motley chorus keeps me consistently amused and inspired, and sometimes
i don't label knobs because i WANT to forget what they do.

"golly" , my Aunt Doris said, "it takes all kinds don't it?"
But if we don't buy what Wiard has got now, there might just be one
kind less. That would be bad because then the new designs would just
end up on Grant's workbench and in Doc's goofy rig behind plexiglass
with knobs labelled by masking tape.

Buy more stuff now!

(this has been a public service announcement by the society for the
preservation of diversity in synthesizer formats)

We now return you to your regularly-scheduled discussion of
silk-screen legibility.

-Doc
 

*** 
a theory:
maybe that's because the overwhelming majority of us are men. Ask any
of the women out there and they'll tell you how important the OUTSIDE
of the package is to folks of our genital persuasion
;'>

Re: [wiardgroup] Re: the Real Wiard system package

2006-10-03 by Dennis Verschoor

That sounds so exciting!
Can't wait till see/hear more.
Regards,

Dennis

On 9/30/06, Grant Richter <grichter@asapnet.net> wrote:

The goal of the 300 series was a cross between an ARP 2600 and a Music Easel.

The goal of the 1200 series is a cross between a Synthi and a Music Easel.

It is very Joystick centric because of the Synthi heritage and because Joystick synths are
kinda rare. It is also designed so that the whole assemblage of modules will fit inside a
suitcase type case which sits horizontaly.

The Noise Ring is the noise source which is combined with a complex oscillator for pitched
events.

I am working on a new complex oscillator design. It shows promise. It will have unique
features never before offered in a VCO.

I would like to do an "Envelooper" which would generate multiple simultaneous 1024 point
envelopes (256 points each for A, D, S, and R with individual segment rate control). One
output will be calibrated for 1 volt per octave pitch control. The Wave256 software would
be used to store sequences and envelope shapes in EPROM.

Not the same as a sequencer but the end result IS sequences.

This would allow you to store pitch sequence, timbre sequence and spectral envelopes
(lopass gate control) together. That way, you just trigger an envelope and it plays an entire
musical "gesture" with pitch, timbre and mutiple envelope events for individually
articulated notes inside the overall gesture. These gestures could last for minutes or
milliseconds depending on segment rate settings.

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, amnesia wrote:
>

> I cant see you have VCOs Sequencer etc of the 300 series. Will this ever
> be the case?
>
> Grant Richter wrote:
> >
> > The 1200 series modules are quite affordable and in some ways an
> > improvement on the
> > 300 series.
> >
> > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com
> > wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia wrote:
> > >
> > > That is sad as I will never be able to enjoy / afford such art :-(
> > >
> > > I could swap you some oil for a system :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > Grant Richter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The price increase has to do with the crazy state of the whole
> > music
> > > > electronics industry
> > > > and not any personal or corporate greed.
> > > >
> > > > I should clarify: Not MY greed. I am not a greedy person. You DO NOT
> > > > make musical
> > > > instruments if you are greedy. If you are greedy, you get in the oil
> > > > business.
> > > >
> > > > To illustrate: When I was still selling modules new for $479.00, two
> > > > businesses spang up
> > > > which would buy modules from me at the low price and immediately
> > > > resell them for $750.00
> > > > the day they were received.
> > > >
> > > > It is basic business logic that if you can purchase something
> > directly
> > > > from the manufacturer
> > > > or hand-crafter and immediately turn around and resell it for a $300
> > > > profit, then the item is
> > > > under-priced to begin with.
> > > >
> > > > So much for my well meaning but naive attempt to keep prices
> > > > reasonable for the "real"
> > > > musicians and enthusiasts.
> > > >
> > > > It is other peoples greed that drove the prices up insanely fast, not
> > > > mine.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>




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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: the Real Wiard system package

2006-10-03 by Norman Fay

I'm another enthusiastic user who is really thrilled @ the idea of there being enough "building blocks" in the 1200 range to make up a complete synthesiser.

On 10/3/06, Dennis Verschoor <modular@gmail.com> wrote:

That sounds so exciting!
Can't wait till see/hear more.
Regards,

Dennis


skin deep...was:Re: the Real Wiard system package

2006-10-05 by drmabuce

Hi doc

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "drmabuce" <drmabuce@...> wrote:
> 
> Buy more stuff now!
> 

GOOD IDEER!
 i sent Grant money
and in response...Prof. Richter**  sent me a dual Borg2  behind a
'riverdance blue' 300-style faceplate and i am delighted. The
difference in CV reponse to the Dual Borg is not subtle!!!!... i admit
that i was a bit skeptical about the characterization of it as 'Mo
Snarly' but dang if it ain't accurate!
 i also found that using an offset combination of an orginal borg and
a borg II ,set as a low-pass/highpass tandem to form a funny-shaped
bandpass is way cool (perhapps MO' Mo snarly!) i tried this out
processing the robo-drums at a local college DJ gig ... there were two
beefy subs on the house sound system and the resulting groove even
coaxed  a couple of GUYS to the floor! 

bravo maestro!
-doc

**(see Grant! i didn't use the CODE names this time...DOH!!!)

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