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Ebay item number: 280163594663

a little plexi frac module.  sorry to spam your list grant, but i
thought at least dr. mabuse might enjoying seeing it ^_^  

someday when i have a bit more loot and time i would like to fill a
red pelican case with red plexi modules (using red banana cables)! 
yeowzers!

take care all
seth

I can now safely say that I could totally see Wiard in clear blue
plexi...  Infact I think it would be really great looking.

Maybe the 1200 in green.

TD

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "denshiblocks" <denshiblocks@...>
wrote:

>
> 
> Ebay item number: 280163594663
> 
> a little plexi frac module.  sorry to spam your list grant, but i
> thought at least dr. mabuse might enjoying seeing it ^_^  
> 
> someday when i have a bit more loot and time i would like to fill a
> red pelican case with red plexi modules (using red banana cables)! 
> yeowzers!
> 
> take care all
> seth
>

Hi Tom/Seth
   i was tickled to see the red transparent VCS. The yellow legends
were a great cosmetic choice. As to plexiglass Wiards... (and i'm
vying for the title of 'Most egregious double-standard of the year'
here) ... i really think it would be a bad idea. 
i use plexiglass in my DIY work for several reasons, and all of them
are compromises. (in order of priority)

-i have access (via a friend) to piles of FREE scrap from her
production runs. Plus, she uses a special class of plexiglass that
drastically mitigates it's rather unsuitable tendency to foster static
charges.

-i'm horribly inept at metal fabrication and i have no appropriate
tools for it either. i do have decent tools for plexiglass (a
'prosumer'-grade dremel will do 85% of the tasks) and i can fabricate
a custom frac-size panel in about 30 minutes. Cutting, Drilling and
shaping is easy, but joining (properly) is a nightmare, requiring
nasty chemicals and very specialized jigs and tools.

-even with its static resistant properties , it insulates and
sometimes i squeeze things in a bit too tightly. The fact that a PCB
can bump up to a panel without shorting out has saved my bacon in more
than a few instances.

-when i build a one-off gadget i usually just put the indicator LED's
on the PCB. Later when(if) the PCB gets promoted to the 'big show' and
merits a panel. It makes my life simpler to use a panel through which
i can simply see the already PCB-mounted LEDs. i don't have to
relocate them. Sometimes this saves quite a bit of panel space too,
because the light  be observed between (even sometimes BEHIND) panel
controls. It allows me to exploit 3 dimensions in my panel layouts.

All of these traits would just make life harder for Grant.

The pro's of plexiglass don't really do him any good in a production
design environment and the con's would just eat his lunch , quality
wise...

At the dimensions of the 300 series, if he used standard 1/8" stock,
it would bend so much that he'd have to add rails to stiffen it or, if
he used stiffer, more robust, 1/4" stock, he'd have to take-on the
hassle of countersinking panel controls with a router.
 Plexiglas is fragile...believe me! My rig is a hothouse flower and
95% of my modules will never leave the studio. One or two small panels
in rack of aluminum are what i consider an 'acceptable risk' for a
rack that actually travels. 
 If you try to customize Plexiglass with a garden-variety drill (with
low RPM and high torque for chewing through wood), you're almost
guaranteed to shatter it. 
At the end of the day, i have a lot of DIY fun with plexiglass but
those experiences have convinced me that it's anything but a sane
choice for a professional production instrument. By that standard i'm
content to declare my stuff: Toys!
;'>

a Wiard is most definitely NOT a toy!
...and that makes it even MORE fun!

-doc




--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Tommy DOG" <mrsvomit@...> wrote:

>
> I can now safely say that I could totally see Wiard in clear blue
> plexi...  Infact I think it would be really great looking.
> 
> Maybe the 1200 in green.
> 
> TD
> 
> --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "denshiblocks" <denshiblocks@>
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Ebay item number: 280163594663
> > 
> > a little plexi frac module.  sorry to spam your list grant, but i
> > thought at least dr. mabuse might enjoying seeing it ^_^  
> > 
> > someday when i have a bit more loot and time i would like to fill a
> > red pelican case with red plexi modules (using red banana cables)! 
> > yeowzers!
> > 
> > take care all
> > seth
> >
>

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "drmabuce" <drmabuce@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Tom/Seth
>    i was tickled to see the red transparent VCS. The yellow legends
> were a great cosmetic choice. As to plexiglass Wiards... (and i'm
> vying for the title of 'Most egregious double-standard of the year'
> here) ... i really think it would be a bad idea. 
> i use plexiglass in my DIY work for several reasons, and all of them
> are compromises. (in order of priority)

<SNIP>

My interest in being positive about Plexiglass is in part a
recognition  that if Grant decided that he wanted to go in that
direction, which I believe he had commented on, I now at least saw an
aesthetic plus in doing so.

TD

It would be great if you could use plastic for faceplates, because they look so cool and the 
colors are very intense.

Plastic dosen't have any shielding abilities, so you would need to have metal behind it.

Printed circuit board material could have a shield layer on one side and touch switches on 
the front. That would be more practical. PC board material is fiberglass rather than 
plexiglass.

But I agree it would open up panel design to some really imaginative levels.

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Tommy DOG" <mrsvomit@...> wrote:

>
> --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "drmabuce" <drmabuce@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Tom/Seth
> >    i was tickled to see the red transparent VCS. The yellow legends
> > were a great cosmetic choice. As to plexiglass Wiards... (and i'm
> > vying for the title of 'Most egregious double-standard of the year'
> > here) ... i really think it would be a bad idea. 
> > i use plexiglass in my DIY work for several reasons, and all of them
> > are compromises. (in order of priority)
> 
> <SNIP>
> 
> My interest in being positive about Plexiglass is in part a
> recognition  that if Grant decided that he wanted to go in that
> direction, which I believe he had commented on, I now at least saw an
> aesthetic plus in doing so.
> 
> TD
>

The yellow type on red is very Mao, man....

gc