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--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, davevosh@... wrote:
>

> guess i need to contact chicago commodities exchange and buy some test  
> materials.........................  :^)



yes
because we're very scientific



BRAD

sitting here, listeing to the sound of the rain outside during the
current typhoon hitting yokohama, i was struck by the similarity of
the sound of bacon frying.

the interesting thing is that the one relaxes me and puts me in a
state of deep meditation, while the other puts me on edge. (guess which!)

i was wondering if it might not be possible to do an fft analysis of
both sounds and then cross reference those with psychological studies
of the effects of sound on the mental state.

;)

gregg

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, davevosh@... wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Ya'll can wallow in your 'systemics' and 'deconstructed  cultural
> contextualizations' but I can tell you with absolute clarity  that
> there is NOTHING musical about frying bacon.
>  
>  
> arnold,
> i can`t speak to the prof`s beat notion myself but found i still
felt your  
> sizzling properties might be of some use - in an r.v.g. "core" 
where you  
> might mix a sawtooth or mutant triangle wave with noise to modify the  
> distribution, what if you used the sizzling bacon noise as a
substitute ? would  you get 
> a different distribution ?
> guess i need to contact chicago commodities exchange and buy some test  
> materials.........................  :^)
> best,
> dave
>  
> 
> 
> 
> **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on
family 

> favorites at AOL Food.      
> (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)
>

I've asked Mr. A. Zimmel personally if he's aware of any known recordings that are available to the public which are designed to be listened to in a waking-dream state. I'd like to cast this question out to the group. For example, recordings designed to be listened to while observing a Dream Machine. Stuff along those lines.
 I believe the musicality of coloured noise really translates through images conjured up by the mind during that waking/dream state, eg; falling asleep to storms, wind or rain...
   Matt

mrboningen wrote: 

>             sitting here, listeing to the sound of the rain outside during the 
> current typhoon hitting yokohama, i was struck by the similarity of 
> the sound of bacon frying. 
> the interesting thing is that the one relaxes me and puts me in a 
> state of deep meditation, while the other puts me on edge. (guess which!) 
> i was wondering if it might not be possible to do an fft analysis of 
> both sounds and then cross reference those with psychological studies 
> of the effects of sound on the mental state. 
> ;) 
> gregg 
> --- In wiardgroup@yahoogro ups.com , davevosh@... wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ya'll can wallow in your 'systemics' and 'deconstructed  cultural 
>> contextualizations' but I can tell you with absolute clarity  that 
>> there is NOTHING musical about frying bacon. 
>>  
>>  
>> arnold, 
>> i can`t speak to the prof`s beat notion myself but found i still 
> felt your  
>> sizzling properties might be of some use - in an r.v.g. "core" 
> where you  
>> might mix a sawtooth or mutant triangle wave with noise to modify the  
>> distribution, what if you used the sizzling bacon noise as a 
> substitute ? would  you get 
>> a different distribution ? 
>> guess i need to contact chicago commodities exchange and buy some test  
>> materials... ......... ......... ....  :^) 
>> best, 
>> dave 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ************ **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on 
> family 
>> favorites at AOL Food.      
>> ( http://food. aol.com/dinner- tonight?NCID= aolfod0003000000 0001 ) 
>> 
>

If you can find a recording of Suzanne Ciani's "Seven Waves" it is a good record for both 
active or passive listening.

That is not to imply that it is sleep producing, rather it produces a pleasant meditative 
state. "Twilight dreaming" might be a good term.

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, frank death <maldoroar@...> wrote:
>
> I've asked Mr. A. Zimmel personally if he's aware of any known recordings 
that are available to the public which are designed to be listened to in a waking-dream 
state. I'd like to cast this question out to the group. For example, recordings 
designed to be listened to while observing a Dream Machine. Stuff along those lines.
>  I believe the musicality of coloured noise really translates through images conjured up 
by the mind during that waking/dream state, eg; falling asleep to storms, wind or rain...

>    Matt
> 
> mrboningen wrote: 
> >             sitting here, listeing to the sound of the rain outside during the 
> > current typhoon hitting yokohama, i was struck by the similarity of 
> > the sound of bacon frying. 
> > the interesting thing is that the one relaxes me and puts me in a 
> > state of deep meditation, while the other puts me on edge. (guess which!) 
> > i was wondering if it might not be possible to do an fft analysis of 
> > both sounds and then cross reference those with psychological studies 
> > of the effects of sound on the mental state. 
> > ;) 
> > gregg 
> > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogro ups.com , davevosh@ wrote: 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Ya'll can wallow in your 'systemics' and 'deconstructed  cultural 
> >> contextualizations' but I can tell you with absolute clarity  that 
> >> there is NOTHING musical about frying bacon. 
> >>  
> >>  
> >> arnold, 
> >> i can`t speak to the prof`s beat notion myself but found i still 
> > felt your  
> >> sizzling properties might be of some use - in an r.v.g. "core" 
> > where you  
> >> might mix a sawtooth or mutant triangle wave with noise to modify the  
> >> distribution, what if you used the sizzling bacon noise as a 
> > substitute ? would  you get 
> >> a different distribution ? 
> >> guess i need to contact chicago commodities exchange and buy some test  
> >> materials... ......... ......... ....  :^) 
> >> best, 
> >> dave 
> >>  
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ************ **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on 
> > family 
> >> favorites at AOL Food.      
> >> ( http://food. aol.com/dinner- tonight?NCID= aolfod0003000000 0001 ) 
> >> 
> >
>

brian eno's ambient series 1-4 are all good for active or passive
listening, i especially like the b-side of the laraaji one.

i don't know if they were designed for it, but my two ambient
favourites are "rainbow dome musick" by steve hillage and miquette
giraudy, and "arbor bona arbor mala" by the shamen, both can induce a
very nice state.

gregg

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Grant Richter" <grichter@...> wrote:
>
> If you can find a recording of Suzanne Ciani's "Seven Waves" it is a
good record for both 
> active or passive listening.
> 
> That is not to imply that it is sleep producing, rather it produces
a pleasant meditative 
> state. "Twilight dreaming" might be a good term.
> 
> --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, frank death <maldoroar@> wrote:
> >
> > I've asked Mr. A. Zimmel personally if he's aware of any
known recordings 
> that are available to the public which are designed to be listened
to in a waking-dream 
> state. I'd like to cast this question out to the group. For
example, recordings 
> designed to be listened to while observing a Dream Machine. Stuff
along those lines.
> >  I believe the musicality of coloured noise really translates
through images conjured up 
> by the mind during that waking/dream state, eg; falling asleep to
storms, wind or rain...
> >    Matt
> > 
> > mrboningen wrote: 
> > >             sitting here, listeing to the sound of the rain
outside during the 
> > > current typhoon hitting yokohama, i was struck by the similarity of 
> > > the sound of bacon frying. 
> > > the interesting thing is that the one relaxes me and puts me in a 
> > > state of deep meditation, while the other puts me on edge.
(guess which!) 
> > > i was wondering if it might not be possible to do an fft
analysis of 
> > > both sounds and then cross reference those with psychological
studies 
> > > of the effects of sound on the mental state. 
> > > ;) 
> > > gregg 
> > > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogro ups.com , davevosh@ wrote: 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Ya'll can wallow in your 'systemics' and 'deconstructed  cultural 
> > >> contextualizations' but I can tell you with absolute clarity  that 
> > >> there is NOTHING musical about frying bacon. 
> > >>  
> > >>  
> > >> arnold, 
> > >> i can`t speak to the prof`s beat notion myself but found i still 
> > > felt your  
> > >> sizzling properties might be of some use - in an r.v.g. "core" 
> > > where you  
> > >> might mix a sawtooth or mutant triangle wave with noise to
modify the  
> > >> distribution, what if you used the sizzling bacon noise as a 
> > > substitute ? would  you get 
> > >> a different distribution ? 
> > >> guess i need to contact chicago commodities exchange and buy
some test  
> > >> materials... ......... ......... ....  :^) 
> > >> best, 
> > >> dave 
> > >>  
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> ************ **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new
twists on 
> > > family 
> > >> favorites at AOL Food.      
> > >> ( http://food. aol.com/dinner- tonight?NCID= aolfod0003000000
0001 ) 

> > >> 
> > >
> >
>