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Re: Stackcables...

Re: Stackcables...

2010-03-11 by gcmci

Although the $8 price is higher than some of the hundreds of other patch cables that I have, having 12 of these in the 3 different lengths (4 per that is) is a godsend when patching keyboard voltages and it makes patching devices triggered by a common source easier to trace.

The quality of the cables is quite nice - they are quite flexible and the jacks stack very nicely without too much force.

Just using these guys when patching in my Pressure Points to trigger a patch makes it more direct - when I do use a mult (like on the bottom of a 300 series module, I now have 4 outputs from the mult - often, I would have to use two mults just to have four gates or four CVs....

Of course, that's just opinion - I could be wrong...8*)

gary






--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, John Mahoney <jmahoney@...> wrote:
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>
> The point of having mults available at every output is to encourage 
> signal splitting. You avoid the mental resistance -- the "oh, I have 
> to unpatch this cable, patch in a multiple or Y-adapter, and then add 
> another cable" factor.
> 
> I think the cables are reasonably priced when you consider the 
> avoided cost of mults and/or adapters and add the benefit of patching 
> spontaneity.
> 
> But, hey, to each his own. Lots of folks think that Wiard modules are 
> expensive.
> 
> John
>

Re: Stackcables...

2010-03-11 by Michael

Okay, I thought about it for a little while and decided to order two of each
of the three lengths. They are something that Grant and I talked about in
the distant past when discussing the merits of various patch chord types.
We always said that there was no reason that 1/4" or 1/8" chords couldn't
be stackable and TipTop did it. But still eight bucks a pop...........

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "gcmci" <gchang@...> wrote:
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>
> Although the $8 price is higher than some of the hundreds of other patch cables that I have, having 12 of these in the 3 different lengths (4 per that is) is a godsend when patching keyboard voltages and it makes patching devices triggered by a common source easier to trace.
> 
> The quality of the cables is quite nice - they are quite flexible and the jacks stack very nicely without too much force.
> 
> Just using these guys when patching in my Pressure Points to trigger a patch makes it more direct - when I do use a mult (like on the bottom of a 300 series module, I now have 4 outputs from the mult - often, I would have to use two mults just to have four gates or four CVs....
> 
> Of course, that's just opinion - I could be wrong...8*)
> 
> gary
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, John Mahoney <jmahoney@> wrote:
> >
> > The point of having mults available at every output is to encourage 
> > signal splitting. You avoid the mental resistance -- the "oh, I have 
> > to unpatch this cable, patch in a multiple or Y-adapter, and then add 
> > another cable" factor.
> > 
> > I think the cables are reasonably priced when you consider the 
> > avoided cost of mults and/or adapters and add the benefit of patching 
> > spontaneity.
> > 
> > But, hey, to each his own. Lots of folks think that Wiard modules are 
> > expensive.
> > 
> > John
> >
>

Re: Stackcables...

2010-03-12 by gcmci

Mike,

So now we have ice trays in hell - still no freezer, but at least we have ice trays...! 8*}


gary




--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <maf@...> wrote:
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>
> Okay, I thought about it for a little while and decided to order two of each
> of the three lengths. They are something that Grant and I talked about in
> the distant past when discussing the merits of various patch chord types.
> We always said that there was no reason that 1/4" or 1/8" chords couldn't
> be stackable and TipTop did it. But still eight bucks a pop...........
> 
> --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "gcmci" <gchang@> wrote:
> >
> > Although the $8 price is higher than some of the hundreds of other patch cables that I have, having 12 of these in the 3 different lengths (4 per that is) is a godsend when patching keyboard voltages and it makes patching devices triggered by a common source easier to trace.
> > 
> > The quality of the cables is quite nice - they are quite flexible and the jacks stack very nicely without too much force.
> > 
> > Just using these guys when patching in my Pressure Points to trigger a patch makes it more direct - when I do use a mult (like on the bottom of a 300 series module, I now have 4 outputs from the mult - often, I would have to use two mults just to have four gates or four CVs....
> > 
> > Of course, that's just opinion - I could be wrong...8*)
> > 
> > gary
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, John Mahoney <jmahoney@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The point of having mults available at every output is to encourage 
> > > signal splitting. You avoid the mental resistance -- the "oh, I have 
> > > to unpatch this cable, patch in a multiple or Y-adapter, and then add 
> > > another cable" factor.
> > > 
> > > I think the cables are reasonably priced when you consider the 
> > > avoided cost of mults and/or adapters and add the benefit of patching 
> > > spontaneity.
> > > 
> > > But, hey, to each his own. Lots of folks think that Wiard modules are 
> > > expensive.
> > > 
> > > John
> > >
> >
>

Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Stackcables...

2010-03-12 by sascha victoria

I don't get why all modulars don't just use bananas. Once you go bananas its hard to go back. I love my Serge.
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On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Michael <maf@mlswebworks.com> wrote:

Okay, I thought about it for a little while and decided to order two of each
of the three lengths. They are something that Grant and I talked about in
the distant past when discussing the merits of various patch chord types.
We always said that there was no reason that 1/4" or 1/8" chords couldn't
be stackable and TipTop did it. But still eight bucks a pop...........

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "gcmci" wrote:
>
> Although the $8 price is higher than some of the hundreds of other patch cables that I have, having 12 of these in the 3 different lengths (4 per that is) is a godsend when patching keyboard voltages and it makes patching devices triggered by a common source easier to trace.
>
> The quality of the cables is quite nice - they are quite flexible and the jacks stack very nicely without too much force.
>
> Just using these guys when patching in my Pressure Points to trigger a patch makes it more direct - when I do use a mult (like on the bottom of a 300 series module, I now have 4 outputs from the mult - often, I would have to use two mults just to have four gates or four CVs....
>
> Of course, that's just opinion - I could be wrong...8*)
>
> gary
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, John Mahoney wrote:
> >
> > The point of having mults available at every output is to encourage
> > signal splitting. You avoid the mental resistance -- the "oh, I have
> > to unpatch this cable, patch in a multiple or Y-adapter, and then add
> > another cable" factor.
> >
> > I think the cables are reasonably priced when you consider the
> > avoided cost of mults and/or adapters and add the benefit of patching
> > spontaneity.
> >
> > But, hey, to each his own. Lots of folks think that Wiard modules are
> > expensive.
> >
> > John
> >
>


Re: Stackcables...

2010-03-12 by gcmci

Bananas are cool, but I like normalling in modules which is available in 3.5mm and 1/4" jacks - not with bananas.  

I have a ton of bananas, mainly because I need them to patch my Step & Smooth Gens into random voltage gens, etc. - without normalling, every module needs some sort of patch to set it up, so, with 9 panels, you can only guess that it amounts to a very large investment in bananas....

And, talk about price, the average price of each of my Pomona banana cords is $5.00, whereas the average price of most of my 3.5mm patch cords is less than $1.00!  

These are just facts - bananas are cool, too!!!

gary






--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, sascha victoria <sascha.victoria@...> wrote:
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>
> I don't get why all modulars don't just use bananas. Once you go bananas its
> hard to go back. I love my Serge.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Michael <maf@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Okay, I thought about it for a little while and decided to order two of
> > each
> > of the three lengths. They are something that Grant and I talked about in
> > the distant past when discussing the merits of various patch chord types.
> > We always said that there was no reason that 1/4" or 1/8" chords couldn't
> > be stackable and TipTop did it. But still eight bucks a pop...........
> >
> > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com <wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "gcmci"
> > <gchang@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Although the $8 price is higher than some of the hundreds of other patch
> > cables that I have, having 12 of these in the 3 different lengths (4 per
> > that is) is a godsend when patching keyboard voltages and it makes patching
> > devices triggered by a common source easier to trace.
> > >
> > > The quality of the cables is quite nice - they are quite flexible and the
> > jacks stack very nicely without too much force.
> > >
> > > Just using these guys when patching in my Pressure Points to trigger a
> > patch makes it more direct - when I do use a mult (like on the bottom of a
> > 300 series module, I now have 4 outputs from the mult - often, I would have
> > to use two mults just to have four gates or four CVs....
> > >
> > > Of course, that's just opinion - I could be wrong...8*)
> > >
> > > gary
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com <wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, John
> > Mahoney <jmahoney@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The point of having mults available at every output is to encourage
> > > > signal splitting. You avoid the mental resistance -- the "oh, I have
> > > > to unpatch this cable, patch in a multiple or Y-adapter, and then add
> > > > another cable" factor.
> > > >
> > > > I think the cables are reasonably priced when you consider the
> > > > avoided cost of mults and/or adapters and add the benefit of patching
> > > > spontaneity.
> > > >
> > > > But, hey, to each his own. Lots of folks think that Wiard modules are
> > > > expensive.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: Stackcables... errata

2010-03-12 by gcmci

I looked on the internet - and a typical 12" Pomona banana cable cost 4 dollars and change - not $5 as I mentioned in my last post....

gary

Re: Stackcables...

2010-03-12 by Michael

@Gary:

Not too chilly I hope?

When I saw that TipTop came out with these I was actually excited (for the
obvious reasons). I was just a bit shocked when I went over to AH and
priced them. I think they are a great idea, just a bit on the pricey side.

@Sascha:

I too think bananas are great (I also have Serge equipment), but not all 
manufactures use them, partially because they preclude normalization and 
partially because of grounding issues. Grant didn't go that route because
of the normalization thing. Wiard modules use normalization is creative
ways.

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "gcmci" <gchang@...> wrote:
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>
> Mike,
> 
> So now we have ice trays in hell - still no freezer, but at least we have ice trays...! 8*}
> 
> 
> gary
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <maf@> wrote:
> >
> > Okay, I thought about it for a little while and decided to order two of each
> > of the three lengths. They are something that Grant and I talked about in
> > the distant past when discussing the merits of various patch chord types.
> > We always said that there was no reason that 1/4" or 1/8" chords couldn't
> > be stackable and TipTop did it. But still eight bucks a pop...........
> > 
> > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "gcmci" <gchang@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Although the $8 price is higher than some of the hundreds of other patch cables that I have, having 12 of these in the 3 different lengths (4 per that is) is a godsend when patching keyboard voltages and it makes patching devices triggered by a common source easier to trace.
> > > 
> > > The quality of the cables is quite nice - they are quite flexible and the jacks stack very nicely without too much force.
> > > 
> > > Just using these guys when patching in my Pressure Points to trigger a patch makes it more direct - when I do use a mult (like on the bottom of a 300 series module, I now have 4 outputs from the mult - often, I would have to use two mults just to have four gates or four CVs....
> > > 
> > > Of course, that's just opinion - I could be wrong...8*)
> > > 
> > > gary
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, John Mahoney <jmahoney@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The point of having mults available at every output is to encourage 
> > > > signal splitting. You avoid the mental resistance -- the "oh, I have 
> > > > to unpatch this cable, patch in a multiple or Y-adapter, and then add 
> > > > another cable" factor.
> > > > 
> > > > I think the cables are reasonably priced when you consider the 
> > > > avoided cost of mults and/or adapters and add the benefit of patching 
> > > > spontaneity.
> > > > 
> > > > But, hey, to each his own. Lots of folks think that Wiard modules are 
> > > > expensive.
> > > > 
> > > > John
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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