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Re: XL7 vs MC-505

2004-01-27 by Fab Claxton

rEalm,
Thank you very much for the very detailed reply! Damn, you've got me 
REALLY considering buying one of these puppies. Now, where do I get 
the money? Hmmm.....I have one last question: when you say that the 
XL7 only offers sysex dumps for storage, you mean in addition to 
onboard (ie: flash) memory, correct? The 505 (as I'm sure you know) 
can store 200 patterns, 250 patches, 50 songs, etc. Can the XL7 also 
save patterns/patches/songs onboard? If so, I'm gonna have to get 
myself one. Damn you! The missus is gonna kill me! :)
Fab

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> I currently use an MC-505 (which I love), but I just heard about 
the XL7, 
> and it sounds great. Has anyone had any experience with both 
machines, and 
> if so, how do they compare? 
> 
> >>>Yep, I'm moderator of this list and the MC505 list.  :) <<<
> 
> What I love most about the 505 is the sequencer, and specifically, 
the 
> grid/step recording features. It's so damn easy to program the 
thing - 
> which is handy for a dummy like myself. Does the XL7 have an 
> easy-to-program sequencer? 
> 
> >>>All of my comments are my owbn personal opinionl just so we get 
that 
> out of the way asap.  I think that in terms of ease of use and a 
fast 
> workflow, the XL-7 beats it hands down.  You don't have to stop the 
> sequencer to enter any of the record modes or save, so you really 
can keep 
> on working all day (caveats below) without having to stop your 
music. 
> Where the 505 takes the edge is when it comes time to edit what 
you've 
> previosuly recorded, as it has more options like groove quantize, 
and 
> real-time transpose.
> 
> The grid editing on the XL-7 is identical to the 505, except for 
the 
> layout of the grid buttons (2 rows of 8, not 1 row of 16).  The XL-
7 even 
> lets you sue the grid for adjustint gate time too. <<<
> 
> Also, I've heard the sounds on the XL7 are even better than those 
on the 
> 505, which is great (not that I think the 505's sounds are bad, but 
> there's always room for improvement). 
> 
> >>>I had to sell my mc505 a few years ago, and when it was time for 
> another "groovebox" I finally had it narrowed down to the 505 and 
XL-7. 
> The XL-7won because it really does sound a lot better than the 
505.  Much 
> cleaner sound, way more detailed, and the modulation options on the 
emu 
> synths kicks butt over any other rompler (you get 24 patch cords 
per 
> instrument, 4 instruments make up a patch, just like the 505).  
Also, you 
> get digital out too, very nice. <<<
> 
> How good is the XL7 at creating your own sounds/patches? 
> 
> >>>It's very easy witht eh 16 knobs, and deep editing via the menus 
isn't 
> that bad either. <<<
> 
> p.s. I assume you can't buy these in stores anymore, right? Is ebay 
the 
> only place to find them now?
> 
> >>>Nah, you can still find them in stores, they're not 
discontinued. <<<
> 
> ---------------
> 
> If I had to list areas where the 505 was better, it would be these:
> 
> - Effects.  The 505 just has more interesting effects, though I 
think the 
> Emu reverb sounds better.
> - Groove quantize.  The Swing quantize on the XX-7 is my favorite 
of any 
> sequecner, but it's the only option besides straight quantizing.
> - Back up.  At least the 505 has an out-dated form of data storage, 
the 
> XX-7 doesn't have any except sysex dumps for your sounds, and the 
included 
> E_Loader software for backup patterns and songs.
> 
> Feel free to ask any questions, there's quite a few former 505 
users on 
> this list ;)
> 
> rEalm
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