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XL7 vs MC-505

2004-01-27 by Fab Claxton

Hey gang,
I currently use an MC-505 (which I love), but I just heard about the 
XL7, and it sounds great. Has anyone had any experience with both 
machines, and if so, how do they compare? What I love most about the 
505 is the sequencer, and specifically, the grid/step recording 
features. It's so damn easy to program the thing - which is handy for 
a dummy like myself. Does the XL7 have an easy-to-program sequencer? 
Also, I've heard the sounds on the XL7 are even better than those on 
the 505, which is great (not that I think the 505's sounds are bad, 
but there's always room for improvement). How good is the XL7 at 
creating your own sounds/patches? Any opinions/help would be greatly 
appreciated. 
Fab
p.s. I assume you can't buy these in stores anymore, right? Is ebay 
the only place to find them now?

Re: [xl7] XL7 vs MC-505

2004-01-27 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

I currently use an MC-505 (which I love), but I just heard about the XL7, 
and it sounds great. Has anyone had any experience with both machines, and 
if so, how do they compare? 

>>>Yep, I'm moderator of this list and the MC505 list.  :) <<<

What I love most about the 505 is the sequencer, and specifically, the 
grid/step recording features. It's so damn easy to program the thing - 
which is handy for a dummy like myself. Does the XL7 have an 
easy-to-program sequencer? 

>>>All of my comments are my owbn personal opinionl just so we get that 
out of the way asap.  I think that in terms of ease of use and a fast 
workflow, the XL-7 beats it hands down.  You don't have to stop the 
sequencer to enter any of the record modes or save, so you really can keep 
on working all day (caveats below) without having to stop your music. 
Where the 505 takes the edge is when it comes time to edit what you've 
previosuly recorded, as it has more options like groove quantize, and 
real-time transpose.

The grid editing on the XL-7 is identical to the 505, except for the 
layout of the grid buttons (2 rows of 8, not 1 row of 16).  The XL-7 even 
lets you sue the grid for adjustint gate time too. <<<

Also, I've heard the sounds on the XL7 are even better than those on the 
505, which is great (not that I think the 505's sounds are bad, but 
there's always room for improvement). 

>>>I had to sell my mc505 a few years ago, and when it was time for 
another "groovebox" I finally had it narrowed down to the 505 and XL-7. 
The XL-7won because it really does sound a lot better than the 505.  Much 
cleaner sound, way more detailed, and the modulation options on the emu 
synths kicks butt over any other rompler (you get 24 patch cords per 
instrument, 4 instruments make up a patch, just like the 505).  Also, you 
get digital out too, very nice. <<<

How good is the XL7 at creating your own sounds/patches? 

>>>It's very easy witht eh 16 knobs, and deep editing via the menus isn't 
that bad either. <<<

p.s. I assume you can't buy these in stores anymore, right? Is ebay the 
only place to find them now?

>>>Nah, you can still find them in stores, they're not discontinued. <<<

---------------

If I had to list areas where the 505 was better, it would be these:

- Effects.  The 505 just has more interesting effects, though I think the 
Emu reverb sounds better.
- Groove quantize.  The Swing quantize on the XX-7 is my favorite of any 
sequecner, but it's the only option besides straight quantizing.
- Back up.  At least the 505 has an out-dated form of data storage, the 
XX-7 doesn't have any except sysex dumps for your sounds, and the included 
E_Loader software for backup patterns and songs.

Feel free to ask any questions, there's quite a few former 505 users on 
this list ;)

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Re: XL7 vs MC-505

2004-01-27 by Fab Claxton

rEalm,
Thank you very much for the very detailed reply! Damn, you've got me 
REALLY considering buying one of these puppies. Now, where do I get 
the money? Hmmm.....I have one last question: when you say that the 
XL7 only offers sysex dumps for storage, you mean in addition to 
onboard (ie: flash) memory, correct? The 505 (as I'm sure you know) 
can store 200 patterns, 250 patches, 50 songs, etc. Can the XL7 also 
save patterns/patches/songs onboard? If so, I'm gonna have to get 
myself one. Damn you! The missus is gonna kill me! :)
Fab

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> I currently use an MC-505 (which I love), but I just heard about 
the XL7, 
> and it sounds great. Has anyone had any experience with both 
machines, and 
> if so, how do they compare? 
> 
> >>>Yep, I'm moderator of this list and the MC505 list.  :) <<<
> 
> What I love most about the 505 is the sequencer, and specifically, 
the 
> grid/step recording features. It's so damn easy to program the 
thing - 
> which is handy for a dummy like myself. Does the XL7 have an 
> easy-to-program sequencer? 
> 
> >>>All of my comments are my owbn personal opinionl just so we get 
that 
> out of the way asap.  I think that in terms of ease of use and a 
fast 
> workflow, the XL-7 beats it hands down.  You don't have to stop the 
> sequencer to enter any of the record modes or save, so you really 
can keep 
> on working all day (caveats below) without having to stop your 
music. 
> Where the 505 takes the edge is when it comes time to edit what 
you've 
> previosuly recorded, as it has more options like groove quantize, 
and 
> real-time transpose.
> 
> The grid editing on the XL-7 is identical to the 505, except for 
the 
> layout of the grid buttons (2 rows of 8, not 1 row of 16).  The XL-
7 even 
> lets you sue the grid for adjustint gate time too. <<<
> 
> Also, I've heard the sounds on the XL7 are even better than those 
on the 
> 505, which is great (not that I think the 505's sounds are bad, but 
> there's always room for improvement). 
> 
> >>>I had to sell my mc505 a few years ago, and when it was time for 
> another "groovebox" I finally had it narrowed down to the 505 and 
XL-7. 
> The XL-7won because it really does sound a lot better than the 
505.  Much 
> cleaner sound, way more detailed, and the modulation options on the 
emu 
> synths kicks butt over any other rompler (you get 24 patch cords 
per 
> instrument, 4 instruments make up a patch, just like the 505).  
Also, you 
> get digital out too, very nice. <<<
> 
> How good is the XL7 at creating your own sounds/patches? 
> 
> >>>It's very easy witht eh 16 knobs, and deep editing via the menus 
isn't 
> that bad either. <<<
> 
> p.s. I assume you can't buy these in stores anymore, right? Is ebay 
the 
> only place to find them now?
> 
> >>>Nah, you can still find them in stores, they're not 
discontinued. <<<
> 
> ---------------
> 
> If I had to list areas where the 505 was better, it would be these:
> 
> - Effects.  The 505 just has more interesting effects, though I 
think the 
> Emu reverb sounds better.
> - Groove quantize.  The Swing quantize on the XX-7 is my favorite 
of any 
> sequecner, but it's the only option besides straight quantizing.
> - Back up.  At least the 505 has an out-dated form of data storage, 
the 
> XX-7 doesn't have any except sysex dumps for your sounds, and the 
included 
> E_Loader software for backup patterns and songs.
> 
> Feel free to ask any questions, there's quite a few former 505 
users on 
> this list ;)
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [xl7] XL7 vs MC-505

2004-01-27 by lynn

this one is easy......the xl-7 blows the 505 away in all areas except for
effects.   the grid recording is way easier.  the sounds are awesome.  i had
a 505 and got rid of it when i bought the xl -7......about those effects
though....the 505 had some good ones, but i can get better ones from my zoom
1201 and old boss digital delay.
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Subject: [xl7] XL7 vs MC-505


> Hey gang,
> I currently use an MC-505 (which I love), but I just heard about the
> XL7, and it sounds great. Has anyone had any experience with both
> machines, and if so, how do they compare? What I love most about the
> 505 is the sequencer, and specifically, the grid/step recording
> features. It's so damn easy to program the thing - which is handy for
> a dummy like myself. Does the XL7 have an easy-to-program sequencer?
> Also, I've heard the sounds on the XL7 are even better than those on
> the 505, which is great (not that I think the 505's sounds are bad,
> but there's always room for improvement). How good is the XL7 at
> creating your own sounds/patches? Any opinions/help would be greatly
> appreciated.
> Fab
> p.s. I assume you can't buy these in stores anymore, right? Is ebay
> the only place to find them now?
>
>
>
>
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Re: [xl7] XL7 vs MC-505

2004-01-27 by m moore

I have had my Xl-7 for a couple of months now and I still cant figure out how to add a effect just to one patch like delay for example without it affecting all the patches.it seems if I add delay to one thing everything gets delay including the drums ?I mostly use roland groove product aswell which its easy to add delay on anything there you just pick a patch go to effects and add how much delay you want.I have read the manual over and over and cant figure it out what I am doing wrong.

erik_magrini@... wrote:I currently use an MC-505 (which I love), but I just heard about the XL7, 
and it sounds great. Has anyone had any experience with both machines, and 
if so, how do they compare? 

>>>Yep, I'm moderator of this list and the MC505 list.  :) <<<

What I love most about the 505 is the sequencer, and specifically, the 
grid/step recording features. It's so damn easy to program the thing - 
which is handy for a dummy like myself. Does the XL7 have an 
easy-to-program sequencer? 

>>>All of my comments are my owbn personal opinionl just so we get that 
out of the way asap.  I think that in terms of ease of use and a fast 
workflow, the XL-7 beats it hands down.  You don't have to stop the 
sequencer to enter any of the record modes or save, so you really can keep 
on working all day (caveats below) without having to stop your music. 
Where the 505 takes the edge is when it comes time to edit what you've 
previosuly recorded, as it has more options like groove quantize, and 
real-time transpose.

The grid editing on the XL-7 is identical to the 505, except for the 
layout of the grid buttons (2 rows of 8, not 1 row of 16).  The XL-7 even 
lets you sue the grid for adjustint gate time too. <<<

Also, I've heard the sounds on the XL7 are even better than those on the 
505, which is great (not that I think the 505's sounds are bad, but 
there's always room for improvement). 

>>>I had to sell my mc505 a few years ago, and when it was time for 
another "groovebox" I finally had it narrowed down to the 505 and XL-7. 
The XL-7won because it really does sound a lot better than the 505.  Much 
cleaner sound, way more detailed, and the modulation options on the emu 
synths kicks butt over any other rompler (you get 24 patch cords per 
instrument, 4 instruments make up a patch, just like the 505).  Also, you 
get digital out too, very nice. <<<

How good is the XL7 at creating your own sounds/patches? 

>>>It's very easy witht eh 16 knobs, and deep editing via the menus isn't 
that bad either. <<<

p.s. I assume you can't buy these in stores anymore, right? Is ebay the 
only place to find them now?

>>>Nah, you can still find them in stores, they're not discontinued. <<<

---------------

If I had to list areas where the 505 was better, it would be these:

- Effects.  The 505 just has more interesting effects, though I think the 
Emu reverb sounds better.
- Groove quantize.  The Swing quantize on the XX-7 is my favorite of any 
sequecner, but it's the only option besides straight quantizing.
- Back up.  At least the 505 has an out-dated form of data storage, the 
XX-7 doesn't have any except sysex dumps for your sounds, and the included 
E_Loader software for backup patterns and songs.

Feel free to ask any questions, there's quite a few former 505 users on 
this list ;)

rEalm










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Re: XL7 vs MC-505

2004-01-27 by Fab Claxton

rEalm and Lynn - Thanks for the responses!
I've read that the pads are velocity sensitive - can I disable that 
function if I want? Also, how much internal memory is available? The 
MC-505 offers 50 songs, 200 patters, 250 patches, etc. How does the 
XL-7 compare? The more I hear about this thing, the more I want one. 
Fab

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "lynn" <locuststudio@s...> wrote:
> this one is easy......the xl-7 blows the 505 away in all areas 
except for
> effects.   the grid recording is way easier.  the sounds are 
awesome.  i had
> a 505 and got rid of it when i bought the xl -7......about those 
effects
> though....the 505 had some good ones, but i can get better ones 
from my zoom
> 1201 and old boss digital delay.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...>
> To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 10:08 AM
> Subject: [xl7] XL7 vs MC-505
>
> 
> > Hey gang,
> > I currently use an MC-505 (which I love), but I just heard about 
the
> > XL7, and it sounds great. Has anyone had any experience with both
> > machines, and if so, how do they compare? What I love most about 
the
> > 505 is the sequencer, and specifically, the grid/step recording
> > features. It's so damn easy to program the thing - which is handy 
for
> > a dummy like myself. Does the XL7 have an easy-to-program 
sequencer?
> > Also, I've heard the sounds on the XL7 are even better than those 
on
> > the 505, which is great (not that I think the 505's sounds are 
bad,
> > but there's always room for improvement). How good is the XL7 at
> > creating your own sounds/patches? Any opinions/help would be 
greatly
> > appreciated.
> > Fab
> > p.s. I assume you can't buy these in stores anymore, right? Is 
ebay
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Re: [xl7] XL7 vs MC-505

2004-01-27 by Aaron Eppolito

--- m moore <vdm_37@...> wrote:
> I still cant figure out how to add a effect just to one patch

That's because you can't.  =)

If you want a simple delay, you could copy the track, shift the time a
bit, and reduce the velocity.

If you really want effects, you'll have to learn the bussing
architecture of the XL-7.  It's not particularly intuitive, but if you
read the FAQ on this site, there's good info.

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Re: [xl7] Re: XL7 vs MC-505

2004-01-28 by lynn

its internal memory holds plenty,  you can alsoback up your patterns on the
computer with the e loader software.
not sure about disabling velocity....i usually just grid record in the
velocity i want.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:43 PM
Subject: [xl7] Re: XL7 vs MC-505


> rEalm and Lynn - Thanks for the responses!
> I've read that the pads are velocity sensitive - can I disable that
> function if I want? Also, how much internal memory is available? The
> MC-505 offers 50 songs, 200 patters, 250 patches, etc. How does the
> XL-7 compare? The more I hear about this thing, the more I want one.
> Fab
>
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "lynn" <locuststudio@s...> wrote:
> > this one is easy......the xl-7 blows the 505 away in all areas
> except for
> > effects.   the grid recording is way easier.  the sounds are
> awesome.  i had
> > a 505 and got rid of it when i bought the xl -7......about those
> effects
> > though....the 505 had some good ones, but i can get better ones
> from my zoom
> > 1201 and old boss digital delay.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...>
> > To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 10:08 AM
> > Subject: [xl7] XL7 vs MC-505
> >
> >
> > > Hey gang,
> > > I currently use an MC-505 (which I love), but I just heard about
> the
> > > XL7, and it sounds great. Has anyone had any experience with both
> > > machines, and if so, how do they compare? What I love most about
> the
> > > 505 is the sequencer, and specifically, the grid/step recording
> > > features. It's so damn easy to program the thing - which is handy
> for
> > > a dummy like myself. Does the XL7 have an easy-to-program
> sequencer?
> > > Also, I've heard the sounds on the XL7 are even better than those
> on
> > > the 505, which is great (not that I think the 505's sounds are
> bad,
> > > but there's always room for improvement). How good is the XL7 at
> > > creating your own sounds/patches? Any opinions/help would be
> greatly
> > > appreciated.
> > > Fab
> > > p.s. I assume you can't buy these in stores anymore, right? Is
> ebay
> > > the only place to find them now?
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [xl7] Re: XL7 vs MC-505

2004-01-28 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Thank you very much for the very detailed reply! Damn, you've got me 
REALLY considering buying one of these puppies. Now, where do I get 
the money? 

>>>Musician's Friend has the PX-7 for only $499 right now.  Apply for a 
credit card from them  :)  Guitar Center will match that price, and they 
currently have 12 months interest free financing if you charge it with 
their credit card :)  <<<

Hmmm.....I have one last question: when you say that the XL7 only offers 
sysex dumps for storage, you mean in addition to onboard (ie: flash) 
memory, correct? Can the XL7 also save patterns/patches/songs onboard?

>>>Yes, the XL-7 does have onboard memory of course, 300,000 notes for the 
sequencer, and up to 4 banks of 128 patches for your own sounds, 100 User 
Arps, and 100 Multi's (snapshots of global settings basically).  There's 
just no removable storage ala Smartmedia, floppy, or other. <<<

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PX-7 vs XL-7 vs MP-7

2004-01-28 by Fab Claxton

rEalm,
You mentioned the PX-7. What's that, and how does it differ from the 
XL-7? Also, I read that the XL-7 and the MP-7 are virutally 
identical, except that the XL's sounds are geared more towards 
electronica/dance, while the MP's are geared towards Hip Hop. But 
can't you just program in your own sounds? And if so, can't you use 
an XL-7 to create Hip Hop (which is the style I mainly create)? 
Thanks to everybody who replied to my posts - you've been very 
helpful. 
Fab

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Thank you very much for the very detailed reply! Damn, you've got 
me 
> REALLY considering buying one of these puppies. Now, where do I get 
> the money? 
> 
> >>>Musician's Friend has the PX-7 for only $499 right now.  Apply 
for a 
> credit card from them  :)  Guitar Center will match that price, and 
they 
> currently have 12 months interest free financing if you charge it 
with 
> their credit card :)  <<<
> 
> Hmmm.....I have one last question: when you say that the XL7 only 
offers 
> sysex dumps for storage, you mean in addition to onboard (ie: 
flash) 
> memory, correct? Can the XL7 also save patterns/patches/songs 
onboard?
> 
> >>>Yes, the XL-7 does have onboard memory of course, 300,000 notes 
for the 
> sequencer, and up to 4 banks of 128 patches for your own sounds, 
100 User 
> Arps, and 100 Multi's (snapshots of global settings basically).  
There's 
> just no removable storage ala Smartmedia, floppy, or other. <<<
> 
> rEalm
> 
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Re: XL7 vs MC-505

2004-01-28 by sincultura13

"...100 Multi's (snapshots of global settings basically)." 

What are some of the uses people give this 'Multi' feature? I've 
never used this feature...


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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Thank you very much for the very detailed reply! Damn, you've got 
me 
> REALLY considering buying one of these puppies. Now, where do I get 
> the money? 
> 
> >>>Musician's Friend has the PX-7 for only $499 right now.  Apply 
for a 
> credit card from them  :)  Guitar Center will match that price, and 
they 
> currently have 12 months interest free financing if you charge it 
with 
> their credit card :)  <<<
> 
> Hmmm.....I have one last question: when you say that the XL7 only 
offers 
> sysex dumps for storage, you mean in addition to onboard (ie: 
flash) 
> memory, correct? Can the XL7 also save patterns/patches/songs 
onboard?
> 
> >>>Yes, the XL-7 does have onboard memory of course, 300,000 notes 
for the 
> sequencer, and up to 4 banks of 128 patches for your own sounds, 
100 User 
> Arps, and 100 Multi's (snapshots of global settings basically).  
There's 
> just no removable storage ala Smartmedia, floppy, or other. <<<
> 
> rEalm
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [xl7] PX-7 vs XL-7 vs MP-7

2004-01-28 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

The PX-7 is the newest Command Station, which ships with the Protean Drum 
ROM included, instead of the Xtreme lead or Mo Phatt ala the XL-7 and 
MP-7.  All three units are identical except for their case color, and the 
ROM inside.  You could for instance install a Mo phatt ROM in a XL-7 and 
have the same sounds as the MP-7.  And while you can of course program any 
style of music on any one of the three, each has samples that make it more 
or less suited for a particular genre.  Each ROM has different instruments 
(samples) used to create the sounds, so they are different in this 
respect.

The Protean Drum ROM in the PX-7 would be fine for hip hop though, the 
drum samples on that ROM are all new, and sound much better than any 
previous Emu drums.  I don't use a Mo-Phatt ROM, so I can't comment on if 
it would be better suited for you.

rEalm



You mentioned the PX-7. What's that, and how does it differ from the 
XL-7? Also, I read that the XL-7 and the MP-7 are virutally 
identical, except that the XL's sounds are geared more towards 
electronica/dance, while the MP's are geared towards Hip Hop. But 
can't you just program in your own sounds? And if so, can't you use 
an XL-7 to create Hip Hop (which is the style I mainly create)? 
Thanks to everybody who replied to my posts - you've been very 
helpful. 
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Re: [xl7] Re: XL7 vs MC-505

2004-01-28 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

- Storing controller assignments for different softsynths (Ie, a multi for 
absynth, a multi for Subtractor, a multi for SX's mixer).
- Storing MIDI/Global parameters for my various needs.  IE, I have a multi 
for when I'm using the XL-7 as a sound module with SX, when I'm remoting 
syncing it during DJ, as a master sequencer controlling an external 
sampler, as a 1 Preset at a time sound module (not multi-timbral), etc.
- Saving my current effects settings while sequencing from SX.

Tons of uses for this feature  ;)

rEalm



What are some of the uses people give this 'Multi' feature? I've never 
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Re: PX-7 vs XL-7 vs MP-7

2004-01-28 by Fab Claxton

rEalm,
Let me get this straight....If I were to buy any one of these three 
machines, I can just pick up ROM packages (ie: Protean Drums, 
Mo'Phatt or Xtreme Lead) and install them on my version (let's say 
the XL-7), virtually giving me all three options in one handy 
machine? That makes the MC-505 look like an absolute joke, and I LOVE 
the 505! Wow, I cannot believe I haven't heard of these machines 
before now! Does the PX-7 have bass tones/synth tones/lead tones/etc. 
installed in it, or is it simply a drum machine (unless you add the 
other ROM packages)?
Fab

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> The PX-7 is the newest Command Station, which ships with the 
Protean Drum 
> ROM included, instead of the Xtreme lead or Mo Phatt ala the XL-7 
and 
> MP-7.  All three units are identical except for their case color, 
and the 
> ROM inside.  You could for instance install a Mo phatt ROM in a XL-
7 and 
> have the same sounds as the MP-7.  And while you can of course 
program any 
> style of music on any one of the three, each has samples that make 
it more 
> or less suited for a particular genre.  Each ROM has different 
instruments 
> (samples) used to create the sounds, so they are different in this 
> respect.
> 
> The Protean Drum ROM in the PX-7 would be fine for hip hop though, 
the 
> drum samples on that ROM are all new, and sound much better than 
any 
> previous Emu drums.  I don't use a Mo-Phatt ROM, so I can't comment 
on if 
> it would be better suited for you.
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> You mentioned the PX-7. What's that, and how does it differ from 
the 
> XL-7? Also, I read that the XL-7 and the MP-7 are virutally 
> identical, except that the XL's sounds are geared more towards 
> electronica/dance, while the MP's are geared towards Hip Hop. But 
> can't you just program in your own sounds? And if so, can't you use 
> an XL-7 to create Hip Hop (which is the style I mainly create)? 
> Thanks to everybody who replied to my posts - you've been very 
> helpful. 
> Fab
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Re: [xl7] Re: PX-7 vs XL-7 vs MP-7

2004-01-28 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Let me get this straight....If I were to buy any one of these three 
machines, I can just pick up ROM packages (ie: Protean Drums, 
Mo'Phatt or Xtreme Lead) and install them on my version (let's say 
the XL-7), virtually giving me all three options in one handy 
machine? 

>>>Yep, I have 3 ROMs in my Xl-7 right, the Xtreme Lead that came with it, 
and the Proteus POP and DRUM ROMS.  That means my XL-7 is also a P2500 and 
a PX-7.  :) <<<

That makes the MC-505 look like an absolute joke, and I LOVE the 505! 

>>>Now you're catching on. :) <<<

Does the PX-7 have bass tones/synth tones/lead tones/etc. installed in it, 
or is it simply a drum machine (unless you add the other ROM packages)?

>>>Yeah, it has other sounds too, quite a few in fact.   You could easily 
make complete tunes with just the Drum ROM, in fact I rarely even use my 
XL-7 ROM anymore, preferring the Pop and Drum ROMs instead.  I make breaks 
and some 4/4 trancey stuff FYI (http://rEalm.iuma.com). <<<

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Re: PX-7 vs XL-7 vs MP-7

2004-01-28 by M2

The expansion capabilities of these machines are great.  You are 
correct.  I have an XL-7(XROM)with the MROM(MP-7), DROM(PX-7) and the 
POP ROM giving me all Command Station units in one box for travel 
purposes. I also have a Proteus 2000 with the Techno and Beat Garden 
ROMS(Orbit 3) and the Vintage ROM giving me the Vintage Pro, Orbit 3 
and P2K all in one shell and an XL-1 with the Pure Phatt ROM in it 
giving me 2 in 1.

It's great.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> wrote:
> rEalm,
> Let me get this straight....If I were to buy any one of these three 
> machines, I can just pick up ROM packages (ie: Protean Drums, 
> Mo'Phatt or Xtreme Lead) and install them on my version (let's say 
> the XL-7), virtually giving me all three options in one handy 
> machine? That makes the MC-505 look like an absolute joke, and I 
LOVE 
> the 505! Wow, I cannot believe I haven't heard of these machines 
> before now! Does the PX-7 have bass tones/synth tones/lead 
tones/etc. 
> installed in it, or is it simply a drum machine (unless you add the 
> other ROM packages)?
> Fab
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > The PX-7 is the newest Command Station, which ships with the 
> Protean Drum 
> > ROM included, instead of the Xtreme lead or Mo Phatt ala the XL-7 
> and 
> > MP-7.  All three units are identical except for their case color, 
> and the 
> > ROM inside.  You could for instance install a Mo phatt ROM in a 
XL-
> 7 and 
> > have the same sounds as the MP-7.  And while you can of course 
> program any 
> > style of music on any one of the three, each has samples that 
make 
> it more 
> > or less suited for a particular genre.  Each ROM has different 
> instruments 
> > (samples) used to create the sounds, so they are different in 
this 
> > respect.
> > 
> > The Protean Drum ROM in the PX-7 would be fine for hip hop 
though, 
> the 
> > drum samples on that ROM are all new, and sound much better than 
> any 
> > previous Emu drums.  I don't use a Mo-Phatt ROM, so I can't 
comment 
> on if 
> > it would be better suited for you.
> > 
> > rEalm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > You mentioned the PX-7. What's that, and how does it differ from 
> the 
> > XL-7? Also, I read that the XL-7 and the MP-7 are virutally 
> > identical, except that the XL's sounds are geared more towards 
> > electronica/dance, while the MP's are geared towards Hip Hop. But 
> > can't you just program in your own sounds? And if so, can't you 
use 
> > an XL-7 to create Hip Hop (which is the style I mainly create)? 
> > Thanks to everybody who replied to my posts - you've been very 
> > helpful. 
> > Fab
> > 
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Re: [xl7] Re: PX-7 vs XL-7 vs MP-7

2004-01-28 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Dear god that's a lot of Emu sounds! :)

rEalm





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The expansion capabilities of these machines are great.  You are 
correct.  I have an XL-7(XROM)with the MROM(MP-7), DROM(PX-7) and the 
POP ROM giving me all Command Station units in one box for travel 
purposes. I also have a Proteus 2000 with the Techno and Beat Garden 
ROMS(Orbit 3) and the Vintage ROM giving me the Vintage Pro, Orbit 3 
and P2K all in one shell and an XL-1 with the Pure Phatt ROM in it 
giving me 2 in 1.

It's great.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> wrote:
> rEalm,
> Let me get this straight....If I were to buy any one of these three 
> machines, I can just pick up ROM packages (ie: Protean Drums, 
> Mo'Phatt or Xtreme Lead) and install them on my version (let's say 
> the XL-7), virtually giving me all three options in one handy 
> machine? That makes the MC-505 look like an absolute joke, and I 
LOVE 
> the 505! Wow, I cannot believe I haven't heard of these machines 
> before now! Does the PX-7 have bass tones/synth tones/lead 
tones/etc. 
> installed in it, or is it simply a drum machine (unless you add the 
> other ROM packages)?
> Fab
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > The PX-7 is the newest Command Station, which ships with the 
> Protean Drum 
> > ROM included, instead of the Xtreme lead or Mo Phatt ala the XL-7 
> and 
> > MP-7.  All three units are identical except for their case color, 
> and the 
> > ROM inside.  You could for instance install a Mo phatt ROM in a 
XL-
> 7 and 
> > have the same sounds as the MP-7.  And while you can of course 
> program any 
> > style of music on any one of the three, each has samples that 
make 
> it more 
> > or less suited for a particular genre.  Each ROM has different 
> instruments 
> > (samples) used to create the sounds, so they are different in 
this 
> > respect.
> > 
> > The Protean Drum ROM in the PX-7 would be fine for hip hop 
though, 
> the 
> > drum samples on that ROM are all new, and sound much better than 
> any 
> > previous Emu drums.  I don't use a Mo-Phatt ROM, so I can't 
comment 
> on if 
> > it would be better suited for you.
> > 
> > rEalm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > You mentioned the PX-7. What's that, and how does it differ from 
> the 
> > XL-7? Also, I read that the XL-7 and the MP-7 are virutally 
> > identical, except that the XL's sounds are geared more towards 
> > electronica/dance, while the MP's are geared towards Hip Hop. But 
> > can't you just program in your own sounds? And if so, can't you 
use 
> > an XL-7 to create Hip Hop (which is the style I mainly create)? 
> > Thanks to everybody who replied to my posts - you've been very 
> > helpful. 
> > Fab
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Re: [xl7] Re: PX-7 vs XL-7 vs MP-7

2004-01-28 by Nathan Seven

Yeah hahah- ROM overload :P

Better go touch something with a real VCO and VCA,
*quick*!


--- erik_magrini@... wrote:
> Dear god that's a lot of Emu sounds! :)
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> mmcquay@...
> 01/28/2004 01:33 PM
> Please respond to xl7
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> MP-7
> 
> 
> The expansion capabilities of these machines are
> great.  You are 
> correct.  I have an XL-7(XROM)with the MROM(MP-7),
> DROM(PX-7) and the 
> POP ROM giving me all Command Station units in one
> box for travel 
> purposes. I also have a Proteus 2000 with the Techno
> and Beat Garden 
> ROMS(Orbit 3) and the Vintage ROM giving me the
> Vintage Pro, Orbit 3 
> and P2K all in one shell and an XL-1 with the Pure
> Phatt ROM in it 
> giving me 2 in 1.
> 
> It's great.
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton"
> <fabclaxton@y...> wrote:
> > rEalm,
> > Let me get this straight....If I were to buy any
> one of these three 
> > machines, I can just pick up ROM packages (ie:
> Protean Drums, 
> > Mo'Phatt or Xtreme Lead) and install them on my
> version (let's say 
> > the XL-7), virtually giving me all three options
> in one handy 
> > machine? That makes the MC-505 look like an
> absolute joke, and I 
> LOVE 
> > the 505! Wow, I cannot believe I haven't heard of
> these machines 
> > before now! Does the PX-7 have bass tones/synth
> tones/lead 
> tones/etc. 
> > installed in it, or is it simply a drum machine
> (unless you add the 
> > other ROM packages)?
> > Fab
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B...
> wrote:
> > > The PX-7 is the newest Command Station, which
> ships with the 
> > Protean Drum 
> > > ROM included, instead of the Xtreme lead or Mo
> Phatt ala the XL-7 
> > and 
> > > MP-7.  All three units are identical except for
> their case color, 
> > and the 
> > > ROM inside.  You could for instance install a Mo
> phatt ROM in a 
> XL-
> > 7 and 
> > > have the same sounds as the MP-7.  And while you
> can of course 
> > program any 
> > > style of music on any one of the three, each has
> samples that 
> make 
> > it more 
> > > or less suited for a particular genre.  Each ROM
> has different 
> > instruments 
> > > (samples) used to create the sounds, so they are
> different in 
> this 
> > > respect.
> > > 
> > > The Protean Drum ROM in the PX-7 would be fine
> for hip hop 
> though, 
> > the 
> > > drum samples on that ROM are all new, and sound
> much better than 
> > any 
> > > previous Emu drums.  I don't use a Mo-Phatt ROM,
> so I can't 
> comment 
> > on if 
> > > it would be better suited for you.
> > > 
> > > rEalm
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You mentioned the PX-7. What's that, and how
> does it differ from 
> > the 
> > > XL-7? Also, I read that the XL-7 and the MP-7
> are virutally 
> > > identical, except that the XL's sounds are
> geared more towards 
> > > electronica/dance, while the MP's are geared
> towards Hip Hop. But 
> > > can't you just program in your own sounds? And
> if so, can't you 
> use 
> > > an XL-7 to create Hip Hop (which is the style I
> mainly create)? 
> > > Thanks to everybody who replied to my posts -
> you've been very 
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Re: PX-7 vs XL-7 vs MP-7

2004-01-28 by sincultura13

"Yeah, it has other sounds too, quite a few in fact.   You could 
easily  make complete tunes with just the Drum ROM, in fact I rarely 
even use my  XL-7 ROM anymore, preferring the Pop and Drum ROMs 
instead..."

Same here! I have the Xl-7 with the POP and Pdrums roms... I wanted 
to get an additional rom but I'm waiting for the emulatorx to come 
out since it comes with 2gigs worth of sound... The Pdrum rom does 
comes with quite a few usuable nondrums samples, but I think if you 
don't have any other modules you ought to atleast get another Rom 
with pitched instruments of your liking... 

One other thing, I know the Mophat rom and the Mp7 are not exactly 
the same... what I don't remeber was wether the person who was trying 
to reprogram the Mp7 patches to work with the Mophat rom actually got 
it to work...


BTW, thanks Realm... I'm not even remotely close to doing half the 
things you can do with you command sation! BUT, one day... One day... 
I'll get there... :)

Re: PX-7 vs XL-7 vs MP-7

2004-01-29 by critten98

Got mine at music 123 for $429 (b stock)


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "William McCoy" <dublmranch@s...> wrote:
> Anybody searching for a PX-7 at a great price should definately 
> check out Mus.Friend.  I have seen them several times just 
> recently on there for $424.99 with FREE shipping for a "blem".
> Blems are usually not a problem, but simply a returned item.  
> They still have a full warranty and are returnable if you dont 
like it.
> Just do a search over there for "emu blem" and you will see 
> them pop if they have any.  be persistant.  :)  also I have seen 
> them listed elsewhere for $449.99 for B-stock but I cant 
> remember where.  Somebody mentioned it here recently too.
> Hope that helps the PX-7 hunters out there.  :-}
> Later,  Will
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > Let me get this straight....If I were to buy any one of these 
three 
> > machines, I can just pick up ROM packages (ie: Protean 
> Drums, 
> > Mo'Phatt or Xtreme Lead) and install them on my version (let's 
> say 
> > the XL-7), virtually giving me all three options in one handy 
> > machine? 
> > 
> > >>>Yep, I have 3 ROMs in my Xl-7 right, the Xtreme Lead that 
> came with it, 
> > and the Proteus POP and DRUM ROMS.  That means my XL-7 
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> > 
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> installed in it, 
> > or is it simply a drum machine (unless you add the other ROM 
> packages)?
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> could easily 
> > make complete tunes with just the Drum ROM, in fact I rarely 
> even use my 
> > XL-7 ROM anymore, preferring the Pop and Drum ROMs 
> instead.  I make breaks 
> > and some 4/4 trancey stuff FYI (http://rEalm.iuma.com). <<<
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Re: [xl7] Re: PX-7 vs XL-7 vs MP-7

2004-01-29 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Hehe, I only do one thing with mine actually, same as you: make music.  :)

rEalm



BTW, thanks Realm... I'm not even remotely close to doing half the things 
you can do with you command sation! BUT, one day... One day... I'll get 
there... :) 


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Re: PX-7 vs XL-7 vs MP-7

2004-01-29 by Fab Claxton

sincultura13,
When you say the Mophat ROM, is that the same as the Pure Phatt ROM? 
I was on the E-MU website, and that's the only Hip Hop ROM I could 
see for the Command Stations. You also mentioned that someone was 
trying to get the Mophat ROM to work with the patches from the MP-7, 
and that you're not sure if he ever got it to work. Is this a common 
problem with Command Stations - getting new ROMs to work with the 
machines' current system? As it stands right now, I'm likely going to 
buy the PX-7 and install the additional Pure Phatt ROM. 
Fab


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sincultura13" <sincultura13@y...> wrote:
> "Yeah, it has other sounds too, quite a few in fact.   You could 
> easily  make complete tunes with just the Drum ROM, in fact I 
rarely 
> even use my  XL-7 ROM anymore, preferring the Pop and Drum ROMs 
> instead..."
> 
> Same here! I have the Xl-7 with the POP and Pdrums roms... I wanted 
> to get an additional rom but I'm waiting for the emulatorx to come 
> out since it comes with 2gigs worth of sound... The Pdrum rom does 
> comes with quite a few usuable nondrums samples, but I think if you 
> don't have any other modules you ought to atleast get another Rom 
> with pitched instruments of your liking... 
> 
> One other thing, I know the Mophat rom and the Mp7 are not exactly 
> the same... what I don't remeber was wether the person who was 
trying 
> to reprogram the Mp7 patches to work with the Mophat rom actually 
got 
> it to work...
> 
> 
> BTW, thanks Realm... I'm not even remotely close to doing half the 
> things you can do with you command sation! BUT, one day... One 
day... 
> I'll get there... :)

Re: PX-7 vs XL-7 vs MP-7

2004-01-30 by dj 61

You would probably be better off getting the MP-7 and adding the 
Drum rom since you can get the exact rom from the Px-7 that works 
with all patterns, but not the exact rom from the MP-7. JUst 
something to keep in mind.
          TOm

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> wrote:
> sincultura13,
> When you say the Mophat ROM, is that the same as the Pure Phatt 
ROM? 
> I was on the E-MU website, and that's the only Hip Hop ROM I could 
> see for the Command Stations. You also mentioned that someone was 
> trying to get the Mophat ROM to work with the patches from the MP-
7, 
> and that you're not sure if he ever got it to work. Is this a 
common 
> problem with Command Stations - getting new ROMs to work with the 
> machines' current system? As it stands right now, I'm likely going 
to 
> buy the PX-7 and install the additional Pure Phatt ROM. 
> Fab
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sincultura13" <sincultura13@y...> 
wrote:
> > "Yeah, it has other sounds too, quite a few in fact.   You could 
> > easily  make complete tunes with just the Drum ROM, in fact I 
> rarely 
> > even use my  XL-7 ROM anymore, preferring the Pop and Drum ROMs 
> > instead..."
> > 
> > Same here! I have the Xl-7 with the POP and Pdrums roms... I 
wanted 
> > to get an additional rom but I'm waiting for the emulatorx to 
come 
> > out since it comes with 2gigs worth of sound... The Pdrum rom 
does 
> > comes with quite a few usuable nondrums samples, but I think if 
you 
> > don't have any other modules you ought to atleast get another 
Rom 
> > with pitched instruments of your liking... 
> > 
> > One other thing, I know the Mophat rom and the Mp7 are not 
exactly 
> > the same... what I don't remeber was wether the person who was 
> trying 
> > to reprogram the Mp7 patches to work with the Mophat rom 
actually 
> got 
> > it to work...
> > 
> > 
> > BTW, thanks Realm... I'm not even remotely close to doing half 
the 
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> > things you can do with you command sation! BUT, one day... One 
> day... 
> > I'll get there... :)

dj 61

2004-01-30 by Fab Claxton

Tom,
You said:

"You would probably be better off getting the MP-7 and adding the
Drum rom since you can get the exact rom from the Px-7 that works
with all patterns, but not the exact rom from the MP-7. JUst
something to keep in mind."

The thing is, I don't really want the pre-made patterns - just the 
presets. I like to work from scratch (ie: not using existing 
patterns). I'm a very lazy man - if I have preset patterns to start 
with, I'll likely just use them as the basis for my tunes. :) Does 
the Pure Phatt ROM have all the same presets as the MP-7? 
Fab


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dj 61" <dj61@d...> wrote:
> You would probably be better off getting the MP-7 and adding the 
> Drum rom since you can get the exact rom from the Px-7 that works 
> with all patterns, but not the exact rom from the MP-7. JUst 
> something to keep in mind.
>           TOm
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> wrote:
> > sincultura13,
> > When you say the Mophat ROM, is that the same as the Pure Phatt 
> ROM? 
> > I was on the E-MU website, and that's the only Hip Hop ROM I 
could 
> > see for the Command Stations. You also mentioned that someone was 
> > trying to get the Mophat ROM to work with the patches from the MP-
> 7, 
> > and that you're not sure if he ever got it to work. Is this a 
> common 
> > problem with Command Stations - getting new ROMs to work with the 
> > machines' current system? As it stands right now, I'm likely 
going 
> to 
> > buy the PX-7 and install the additional Pure Phatt ROM. 
> > Fab
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sincultura13" <sincultura13@y...> 
> wrote:
> > > "Yeah, it has other sounds too, quite a few in fact.   You 
could 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > > easily  make complete tunes with just the Drum ROM, in fact I 
> > rarely 
> > > even use my  XL-7 ROM anymore, preferring the Pop and Drum ROMs 
> > > instead..."
> > > 
> > > Same here! I have the Xl-7 with the POP and Pdrums roms... I 
> wanted 
> > > to get an additional rom but I'm waiting for the emulatorx to 
> come 
> > > out since it comes with 2gigs worth of sound... The Pdrum rom 
> does 
> > > comes with quite a few usuable nondrums samples, but I think if 
> you 
> > > don't have any other modules you ought to atleast get another 
> Rom 
> > > with pitched instruments of your liking... 
> > > 
> > > One other thing, I know the Mophat rom and the Mp7 are not 
> exactly 
> > > the same... what I don't remeber was wether the person who was 
> > trying 
> > > to reprogram the Mp7 patches to work with the Mophat rom 
> actually 
> > got 
> > > it to work...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > BTW, thanks Realm... I'm not even remotely close to doing half 
> the 
> > > things you can do with you command sation! BUT, one day... One 
> > day... 
> > > I'll get there... :)

Re: dj 61

2004-01-30 by dj 61

Same samples(instruments) different presets is my understanding. I 
have the MP-7 and have not tested the pure phatt. YOu can probably 
get the preset listings and compare @ emu.com. If you are not 
worried about the MP-7 patterns (I've been overwriting mine for 
space) then I'm sure you'll be just fine with the pure phatt.
Besides I just learned the px is silver not white, pretty cool.
                  Tom

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> wrote:
> Tom,
> You said:
> 
> "You would probably be better off getting the MP-7 and adding the
> Drum rom since you can get the exact rom from the Px-7 that works
> with all patterns, but not the exact rom from the MP-7. JUst
> something to keep in mind."
> 
> The thing is, I don't really want the pre-made patterns - just the 
> presets. I like to work from scratch (ie: not using existing 
> patterns). I'm a very lazy man - if I have preset patterns to 
start 
> with, I'll likely just use them as the basis for my tunes. :) Does 
> the Pure Phatt ROM have all the same presets as the MP-7? 
> Fab
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dj 61" <dj61@d...> wrote:
> > You would probably be better off getting the MP-7 and adding the 
> > Drum rom since you can get the exact rom from the Px-7 that 
works 
> > with all patterns, but not the exact rom from the MP-7. JUst 
> > something to keep in mind.
> >           TOm
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> 
wrote:
> > > sincultura13,
> > > When you say the Mophat ROM, is that the same as the Pure 
Phatt 
> > ROM? 
> > > I was on the E-MU website, and that's the only Hip Hop ROM I 
> could 
> > > see for the Command Stations. You also mentioned that someone 
was 
> > > trying to get the Mophat ROM to work with the patches from the 
MP-
> > 7, 
> > > and that you're not sure if he ever got it to work. Is this a 
> > common 
> > > problem with Command Stations - getting new ROMs to work with 
the 
> > > machines' current system? As it stands right now, I'm likely 
> going 
> > to 
> > > buy the PX-7 and install the additional Pure Phatt ROM. 
> > > Fab
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sincultura13" <sincultura13@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > "Yeah, it has other sounds too, quite a few in fact.   You 
> could 
> > > > easily  make complete tunes with just the Drum ROM, in fact 
I 
> > > rarely 
> > > > even use my  XL-7 ROM anymore, preferring the Pop and Drum 
ROMs 
> > > > instead..."
> > > > 
> > > > Same here! I have the Xl-7 with the POP and Pdrums roms... I 
> > wanted 
> > > > to get an additional rom but I'm waiting for the emulatorx 
to 
> > come 
> > > > out since it comes with 2gigs worth of sound... The Pdrum 
rom 
> > does 
> > > > comes with quite a few usuable nondrums samples, but I think 
if 
> > you 
> > > > don't have any other modules you ought to atleast get 
another 
> > Rom 
> > > > with pitched instruments of your liking... 
> > > > 
> > > > One other thing, I know the Mophat rom and the Mp7 are not 
> > exactly 
> > > > the same... what I don't remeber was wether the person who 
was 
> > > trying 
> > > > to reprogram the Mp7 patches to work with the Mophat rom 
> > actually 
> > > got 
> > > > it to work...
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > BTW, thanks Realm... I'm not even remotely close to doing 
half 
> > the 
> > > > things you can do with you command sation! BUT, one day... 
One 
> > > day... 
> > > > I'll get there... :)

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