Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

ok well first off I just want to say thanks - > I just want to 
address this before I continue - I am seriously not trying to be rude 
or anything like that when I say this please don't take it the wrong 
way - but seriously I am not that much of a noob - I do know what the 
envelopes and oscilators do and I know what the FX do - (I tried all 
of those basic things first)which is why I came here with my 
question - but I literally think that there has to be a way to take 
even the smallest of a given rom sample (one lasting only two or 
three 16th notes at most - which in my case happens to be the kick 2 
from the XL7 rom) and tweak it so that instead of its usuall basic 
sample length of only one or two 16th notes - it could be played to 
last even up to lets say 5 whole bars of 4/4 with the same velocity 
going strong - I did check all the decay sustain release settings for 
all the four layers - and that helped get some of the "sustain" type 
of idea I had in mind - but only by a few extra beats (two or three 
more 16th notes - which I was looking for a few extra whole bars ((16 
whole 16th notes))not just 16th notes) - I was thinking that this 
could be done with some sort of sysEx programming or something else I 
haven't tried - once again I really am eager to learn - maybe this 
question is too technical or that I am asking it in the wrong way - I 
hope not - I just want to take what I do know and broaden and expand 
my awarenesses - please don't take it the wrong way because I do 
appreciate the help - 


> oooh ok. hmm might be the sample being played back? well try this go
> into preset edit mode and press button 4 again for amp then turn the
> knob a few times and mess with  or at least check out the decay
> sustain andd release settings for all for layers and LA might 
help...
> 
> let me know what happens
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "lifeistheformofenergy"
> <lifeistheformofenergy@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > well thanks a lot - that did help get the volume level I was 
looking 
> > for - But I still need to be able to "sustain" a note at a given 
> > velocity for a given time ...
> > 
> >  --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > why dont you hit the preset edit button then press track buttn 
4 to
> > > put amp on the 4 layers?
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "lifeistheformofenergy"
> > > <lifeistheformofenergy@y...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I should have been more specific with what I am using - I 
want 
> > learn 
> > > > how to sequence these basslines on my xl 7 - (no other roms) 
and 
> > mean 
> > > > while external gear will utilized as well but I just want to 
> > know what 
> > > > parameters I need to change because the knobs in quick edit 
> > don't do 
> > > > enough of what I am trying to do - like amp release up (amp 
vel 
> > up as 
> > > > well - to get it as loud as I can) sustain up and delay all 
the 
> > way up 
> > > > as well - I was under the impression that I could take a bass 
> > drum 
> > > > sound like kick 2 and tweak it so that instead of its quick 
> > attack and  
> > > > quick release that happens over only around one or two eight 
> > notes at 
> > > > most, instead I could tweak its parameters so that it's note 
on 
> > value 
> > > > endures at around the same velocity curve (or the same 
velocity 
> > would 
> > > > be great too) through out a whole couple of 4 bars or what 
ever 
> > I tell 
> > > > it to depending on the values it would be assigned to - what 
I 
> > am 
> > > > wondering is if that would be sysEx information I need to 
change 
> > (which 
> > > > is what I was assuming - as apposed to just altering the ADSR 
> > envelopes 
> > > > and LFO ) - and if so could someone please help me out 
changing 
> > the 
> > > > sysEx information so I know how to do it in the future - 
please 
> > please 
> > > > please -