Yahoo Groups archive

Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Index last updated: 2026-04-29 00:09 UTC

Message

Re: XL7 and in-pattern sysex storage

2006-08-26 by steve_the_composer

I don't know for sure, but I can tell you what I know.  I would assume 
in theory, you could use 100% of available sequence memory. However, I 
though think that would be very practical. 

I have dabbled with embedded sysex commands. (See files section.) I am 
reasonably sure you can embed plenty of sysex for your purposes using 
a small portion of the sequencer memory.

Years ago, I embeded a large patch dump (Casio CZ banks, I believe) 
into a pattern that ran longer than 32 measures. It can be done, but I 
don't recall if it intruduced any OS anomolies.

If you are simply trying to get sequencers to call up all the data you 
would have in a multisetup, that is much easier to do, though you have 
to be careful.  For example, if you change some of the settings, you 
could in effect turn off the ability to receive further messages; or 
you could turn off the internal clock with nothing to turn it back on.

If you don't need to recall ALL the data from a multisetup, OR, if you 
want to change things other than what a multisetup saves, I recommend 
you look at my material on embedded sysex (if you haven't done so 
already).

I am not familiar with the Yamaha FS1R, but if you can manipulate 
parameters on the fly like you can with the P2K synth engine, you 
might consider that.

Out of curiosity, you you have a sysex manual for the FS1R? (If it is 
available in PDF, I'd be interested in taking a look.) Also, how big 
(in bytes) are the performance banks? If a bank is not too big, you 
might be able to send it out all at once.  If you are wanting to send 
a large amount of data, you could send it out over time.

Here's a link to the section on embedded sysex. I don't have anything 
specific on embedding patch/preset dumps for external gear, though I 
know I have written about it in the archives. I will see if I can find 
the reference(s).

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/files/Embedded%20Sysex%20Demos/

Hope this helps.

--Steve


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Zsolt Szabó <Zsolt.Szabo@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> 
> I want to store sysex messages in my patterns, preferably whole
> multi instrument dumps.
> What is the theoretical maximum data size allocated for a pattern ?
> And in fact how much extra data fits there under average conditions ?
> Is anybody successfully storing Yamaha FS1R performance banks
> in an Emu command station box ?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>     Zsolt
>

Attachments

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.