Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Hi Steve,

yes, I want complete dumps to store in the patterns.
I asked the FS1R because the biggest sysex chunks originate from there,
very-very much parameters...

Preferably I would send single banks data but multi is also
a must so larger chuncks are expected...

I put up the FS1R documents on my ftp area.
The file you want to consult is fs1re2.pdf an look at MIDI implementation
at the end.
Now I'm in the process to completely remote the FS1R from my BitStream
MIDI controller so I use them frequently.

ftp://pub:pub001@...


Thanks,
    Zsolt





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...>
To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:06 PM
Subject: [xl7] Re: XL7 and in-pattern sysex storage


I don't know for sure, but I can tell you what I know.  I would assume
in theory, you could use 100% of available sequence memory. However, I
though think that would be very practical.

I have dabbled with embedded sysex commands. (See files section.) I am
reasonably sure you can embed plenty of sysex for your purposes using
a small portion of the sequencer memory.

Years ago, I embeded a large patch dump (Casio CZ banks, I believe)
into a pattern that ran longer than 32 measures. It can be done, but I
don't recall if it intruduced any OS anomolies.

If you are simply trying to get sequencers to call up all the data you
would have in a multisetup, that is much easier to do, though you have
to be careful.  For example, if you change some of the settings, you
could in effect turn off the ability to receive further messages; or
you could turn off the internal clock with nothing to turn it back on.

If you don't need to recall ALL the data from a multisetup, OR, if you
want to change things other than what a multisetup saves, I recommend
you look at my material on embedded sysex (if you haven't done so
already).

I am not familiar with the Yamaha FS1R, but if you can manipulate
parameters on the fly like you can with the P2K synth engine, you
might consider that.

Out of curiosity, you you have a sysex manual for the FS1R? (If it is
available in PDF, I'd be interested in taking a look.) Also, how big
(in bytes) are the performance banks? If a bank is not too big, you
might be able to send it out all at once.  If you are wanting to send
a large amount of data, you could send it out over time.

Here's a link to the section on embedded sysex. I don't have anything
specific on embedding patch/preset dumps for external gear, though I
know I have written about it in the archives. I will see if I can find
the reference(s).

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/files/Embedded%20Sysex%20Demos/

Hope this helps.

--Steve


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Zsolt Szab\ufffd <Zsolt.Szabo@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I want to store sysex messages in my patterns, preferably whole
> multi instrument dumps.
> What is the theoretical maximum data size allocated for a pattern ?
> And in fact how much extra data fits there under average conditions ?
> Is anybody successfully storing Yamaha FS1R performance banks
> in an Emu command station box ?
>
> Thanks,
>
>     Zsolt
>