Yahoo Groups archive

Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Index last updated: 2026-04-29 00:09 UTC

Message

Re: Cakewalk .INS question

2006-08-31 by sounddaddy2

Hi Guys can you help me out .... I have everything loaded up but the 
MP doesent recall patches when I open a project in Sonar 5 ... I have 
a Yamaha RS7000 with .ins in Sonar at it works fine.

On the MP I have to scroll to the proper rom and see the patches as I 
make changes in Sonar from the .ins files ... They are acurate and 
match each other perfectly.

The only way I have been working around this is saving a multi of the 
song on the MP and restoring it ... But i know there must be a way 
that I can't figure out ... any help or guidance ??

If I create a pattern in the MP and save it via e-loader and then 
open it up in Sonar it asks if I want to send sysex data and I say 
OK !!! ... The MP plays all of the presets fine.

Just to be clear the problem I am having is when I write and go 
fishing for sounds From/In Sonar .... They don't recall on the MP7 
when I re-open in Sonar.

I have Sonar 5 with an MP7 with 4 ROMs (POP,DRUM,PHATT,WORLD) an XL7 
with just the XL rom and an RS7000 .... I also have another MP7 that 
I use to control Sonar and the soft syths.



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sounddaddy2" <sounddaddy2@...> wrote:
>
> --Thanks Steve ... Hopefully you can re-send it later ... i would 
love
> to see your input.
> 
> Ok so here' s where I'm at ... i downloaded the PatchPro and created
> .ins from my actual MP7 unit and ROMS ... I then loaded in Sonar...
> All show up and are perfect ... The problem I am having now is that
> the the MP is not switching ROMS ... I can call up a preset in Sonar
> for say World ROM bazouki on 012 bank 3 on channel 4 and the mp
> switches preset and bank but not ROM ... I have to manually change 
the
> ROM on the MP7.
> 
> When I close Sonar it remembers the patches I set but on reload it
> does not recall the proper ROM on the MP7 ... seems to just revert 
to
> slot 1 ... which is Mo Phat User/MP7 sounds.
> 
> 
> In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@> wrote:
> >
> > After typing an extensive reply, I got a server not available 
> > message when I went to send it. I will have to try to reconstruct 
it 
> > later. Sorry.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sounddaddy2" <sounddaddy2@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > I have an MP& with PROM.. MOPHAT .. WORLD and DRUM and an XL7 
with 
> > > the XL ROM.
> > > 
> > > I have downloaded the .ins from your link and sane deal.
> > > 
> > > I also have a Yamaha RS700 and that works perfect ... I 
> > > dowloaded .ins and it works.
> > > 
> > > Any Clues ??
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@> 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Diagnostic questions:
> > > > Which ROMS do you have installed?
> > > > Do USER presets have the same problem?
> > > > Do all installed ROMS have the same problem?
> > > > 
> > > > Have you looked at the *.ins files in this folder:
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/files/Command%20Station%
20Data/
> > > > 
> > > > Compare your *.ins definitions with those in p2k-all.ins 
file. 
> > It 
> > > > sounds like you are not using the right bank switching values 
> > for 
> > > the 
> > > > ROMs you have. When Sonar tells the MP7 to switch to a bank 
that 
> > > you 
> > > > don't have a ROM for, that's the message you get (ROM NOT 
> > > INSTALLED).
> > > > 
> > > > =============================================================
> > > > EXAMPLE [exceerpts from *.ins file using AOrch ROM in P2500]:
> > > > 
> > > > .Patch Names
> > > > 
> > > > [E-MU P2k: Advanced Orchestra: Bank 0 (8448)]
> > > > 0=cmb:AdvancedOrch
> > > > 1=cmb:Traditional
> > > > 2=str:LegatoString
> > > > 3=cmb:Orch Split
> > > > etc.
> > > > 
> > > > .Instrument Definitions
> > > > 
> > > > [E-MU Proteus 2500]
> > > > Patch[8449]=E-MU P2k: Advanced Orchestra: Bank 1 (8449)
> > > > Patch[8448]=E-MU P2k: Advanced Orchestra: Bank 0 (8448)
> > > > 
> > > > =============================================================
> > > > AOrch MSB = 66 [Find MSB of ROM by pressing audition]
> > > > 66*128 8448
> > > > Therefore, Bank 0 of the AOrch ROM is accessed as Patch[8448].
> > > > Bank 1 is Patch[8449].
> > > > 
> > > > If you try to switch to bank 8457, the E-Mu will look for 
bank 9 
> > in 
> > > > the ROM whose MSB is 66 and you will get the ROM NOT 
INSTALLED 
> > > message.
> > > > If you try to switch to bank 9, the E-Mu will look for bank 9 
in 
> > > User 
> > > > memory.
> > > > 
> > > > You may know all this, but maybe not. Hope it helps. 
> > > > 
> > > > --Steve
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sounddaddy2" <sounddaddy2@> 
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have loaded several .ins files into Sonar ... I see 
> > everything 
> > > > > fine .... But when I go to a bank and click a preset in 
Sonar 
> > My 
> > > MP7 
> > > > > pops up ROM NOT INSTALLED ???? on whatever channel I am 
> > working 
> > > > on ... 
> > > > > what's wrong ??
> > > > > 
> > > > > Also I have not been able to find definitions for the PROM 
or 
> > > WORLD 
> > > > > ROMS ... If anyone can help me that would be awesome ... 
> > thanks !
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Attachments

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.