Not offended at all. And I didn't mean to offend
you by implying that you can't play or anything. Some of use are less
precise that's all, can't you understand that? I hope so. (shrug)
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From: Neila Eliphas SpareSent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 9:51 PMSubject: Re: [xl7] OS ideas we'd like to see implemented (summary)Yeah, I do play live (been doing so since late 97 early 98). I've used various setups for live p.a.'s, but probably my longest lasting was composed of an SU-700, QS6, 777 (which I had running into it's own delay system [Digitech of some order]), Alpha Juno 1, Juno 106 (the Alpha and 1 both being controlled mainly from an MMT-8 sequencer wise), MC-505, and every now and then a guitar being thrown in (on one occasion [I will admit, Cubase was added as an additional sequencer to everything else). Anyhow, I haven't done a live event of any order for about the past 6 months now. Though essientially, the entire foundation of any music I work on is essientially based on me first being able to play it live (in that way, I still run with some sort of setup geared in the same way I would a live p.a. setup). Just the way I have my stuff set up, I never end up even coming close to the power button on the Command Station with out meaning to. AGAIN, like I said, I really think it's just a difference in setups that cause the problem.Didn't mean to offend you (feel like I did), just honestly meant that I don't understand how the problem is occuring. Still don't really. *shrug*But you're right, guess somewhere along the line, it was problem enough for EMU to feel they had to conduct some sort of failsafe against it.And just for the record, I'm not sure if I've ever played the perfect live p.a. Seems at some point, something (at least to a small degree) will go wrong. I've found work arounds to most of my most frequently found problems, however the solutions also mean conducting in the p.a. in a manner that I simply wouldn't feel comfortable doing. Every time a mistake is made (espically during the rare times that it's one I can't recover from), yeah I feel like there's a billion and one eyes all looking at me in recognition of the mistake. Course at the end of it all, I come to realize 98 percent of the time nobody really even noticed my mistake.....so I've come to loosen up at least a little about what mistakes I make. Like I said though, found work arounds to the problem (and I don't mean by using DAT or anything like that), I just elect not to go that route, in a small way, the mistakes make the whole thing more real to me; and aside from that, making a mistake has come to make me (more often than not) take things in directions that I never planned on taking them (typically as a recovery to the mistake)......they can come to force me to improvise, and bring out new things. So, there's good and bad to that whole idea (differing according to work methods of course) of mistakes in the long run I would think.Ultimately, agree with you, it's the more options the better. Never no when you may find a use for a feature you never used before. =)Respect,; Aaron NesbyFrom: Ravi Ivan SharmaSent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:56 PMSubject: Re: [xl7] OS ideas we'd like to see implemented (summary)I am baffled that you can't concieve of the easy answer. WE ARE CLUMSY FOOLS!;Also if it was truly an unlikely occurence then why bother even with the countdown? Problem is, is that the countdown is still not good enough, as it requires some special attention when during a live gig, ones attention is on 20 things at the same time.Actually for me it happens when I am running 4 things at a time as I do often live. Do you play live? It seems that I must be grazing the on/off button when executing a quick filter sweep. I can't replicate it if I try, but give me 10 minutes of fast and furious working the box and another box or synth at the same time and it is bound to happen. I just keep my eye on the display to watch for the countdown. I haven't taken the box out live yet and can imagine that I could be distracted enough to have a catastrophe. I play in jazz type improvisational bands and I spend a lot time looking at the players, not the gear.I don't know about you, but even a 1 percent chance of something bad happening is far to great a risk when playing in front of an audience, especially the bigger the gig. In a huge gig I would remove the button altogether as another has mentioned or tape a small hard box over it.Despite your bafflement, I think E-mu didn't think this out. Other manufacturers have thought it out and use a hard switch (yamaha, roland) or require a lengthy hold (Waldorf).All they need to do, if they can't require a hard hold countdown, is to make the countdown abort upon any incoming data, whether midi data from an external source or data cause by pressing buttons or turning knobs on the box itself. Such would be almost foolproof.The BEST solution is to allow one to choose to disable the function of the button completely in software. One can always use the back switch, or in a rack situation, one can disable it in critical situations.Ravi----- Original Message -----From: Neila Eliphas SpareSent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:46 PMSubject: Re: [xl7] OS ideas we'd like to see implemented (summary)I'll forever be baffled as to how people keep on powering down their units by accident. What on earth are you doing to hit the power button aside from when you need to?Respects,Aaron Nesby----- Original Message -----From: erik_magrini@...Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:48 PMSubject: RE: [xl7] OS ideas we'd like to see implemented (summary)
Definitely, I also forgot to add an easier (well, quicker really) way to select a channel for editing. Having to scroll through all the channels in order to get to a Preset for tweaking in the heat of the moment is my current gripe. Oh yeah, and damn if I haven't accidentally powered down my unit 5 times in the last two days. I look up just in time to see it go
1...0.... bye bye!
Doh!
rEalm
(a beer holder on the side would be cool too)
"Brooks Rongstad"08/27/02 12:10 PM
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I suppose everyone wants the ability to create user Drum-Kits. I just had to
say it again; such a great feature this would be!
Brooks
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