Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

On 12/19/02 2:47 PM, "duderthedude2002 <ecc@...>" <ecc@...> wrote:
> 
> thank you for your input, but what i meant by the above, is that i
> would purchase the mpc or mp-7 and use thier sequencers, and then
> slave the triton le to them, thus, not having to use the triton le
> in seq mode where the ifx limitation applies.  Yes in both prog and
> combi mode i still only have 1 ifx and 2mfx but since id be using
> the triton le as a "sound module" it will work.

OK.  But you don't need an external sequencer to get the same result.
Regardless, it looks like you will be using the LE mostly for
"one-at-a-time" sound playing (mono-timbral).  You can use the internal
sequencer in the same way, either dedicating the EFX to one of the 16 parts,
or sharing it across all 16 parts and recording one at a time to audio.
anyway it seems you just want to use the LE for playing one part of each
sequence.

> Personally i 
> however disagree that the navigation on the triton le is clunky,
> IMHO, i really think it is what you are use to.
> 

Agreed.  It is a matter of personal taste, where you are coming from, and
what other approaches you have used and have access to.

> when i go to play on the classic tritons in the store i hate the
> touch screen, but that is because i am use to my triton le.  i
> definately think the "button" layout on the triton le is better than
> the karma, although they seem similar they are not.  i do not find
> muting on the triton le difficult, all i  have to do is select the
> track and hit 1 button, not bad when you are use to flying around
> the screen with the cursor buttons.
> 
> i actually owned the mpc2000xl, but sold it and bought my triton le
> becasue i wanted a synth and sequencer. (i bought the mpc for 800,
> and sold it for 1100!!) I was considering the mp-7 because i agree
> in that i think two samplers is overkill especially for the mpc and
> mp7 price differance. plus i wanted some emu sounds.  I am familiar
> with my triton le sampler and i like it.  i agree though that the
> mpc is better for drum samples and easier to navigate (although the
> triton is fine when you are use to it)  the triton le is especially
> good for multisamples.
> 
> my whole problem with the triton le sequencer is in that the ifx
> routing, even on the classic triton 5 ifx only gives you 5 differant
> possible programs; obviously you could share ifx, but i bought my
> board to use the sounds, not worrying about sharing sounds, that is
> why i bought the triton le because i new i would eventually buy
> another sequencer, most likely the mpc until i saw the mp7.
> 

This paragraph still confuses me.  First after extensive use with the Triton
over two years I can honestly say that I have never experienced the
limitation of the 5 effects units.  and my sequences average 12 or more
parts, each using different Triton patches.  The effects routing scheme in
the Triton is the easiest I have seen in any hardware instrument and it is
totally flexible.

Also, as rich and full as most Triton sounds are I find that they almost
always need taming in a mix.

I guess I am still struggling to grasp what your trying to accomplish.  if
the issue is that you want to use the LE as a mono-timbral sound module and
add an additional sound module to your setup then that's cool, I can see
that.  But using the Triton mono-timbrallly does not preclude the use of the
sequencer in it.  in other words you could add, for example an Emu sound
module, or a Roland one, or whatever, and still use the Triton's sequencer
to control the external module(s) and the one track of Triton sounds.  In
other words there is no reason to "junk" the LE's sequencer if you like it.

BTW, any sound module you add is going to have a worse problem with effects
than the Triton.  The Emu modules have two rather "plain" effects units, the
MPC2K an optional set of four.  So if you think the Triton Classic is
limited your going to find any module choice, even the Triton rack,
disappointing in this regard.

> i like the triton sequencer with exception to the ifx.
> so my other question is:  subtracting the mpc sampler and
> subtracting the mp-7 synth engine, which sequencer is hands down
> better in your honest opinion with a slaved sound module?
> 
MPC for studio use and composition.  MP-7 for live performance.

But in your shoes, given that you already like what the Triton sequencer has
to offer, I'd stay with the Triton LE for sequencing and pick up an
inexpensive sound module.  In that regard the XX-7 would still be high on my
list because the sound module and control surface are worth the $700.
Whether I ever used the sequencer or not would be pure gravy.

In this scenerio, using the Triton LE for sequencing, and allowing for your
not wanting to loose the Triton sound, I would set up a template sequence in
the Triton LE with the first eight tracks reserved for the triton's use and
the last eight preset to eight channels on the external sound module.  With
this convention it would be a simple matter to copy a Triton program for use
on say track one, complete with all presets, or a combi on tracks 1-8, again
sounding exactly as it did before it was used in the sequencer (the Triton
has a simple command to set this up, combi->seq).  I'd use the one program
or combi for the "featured" sound in my songs and fill out the rest of the
tracks using the sounds from the sound module.  Everything could be
controlled from the triton screens, including which sound were on what
channels of the external sound module.


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