It really depends on what you want. If you have a Command station, you allready have most of the functionality of the 909 with the exception of a sampler. If all you want is a simple sampler then you should really get an ES-1 or get a full sampler like a Yamaha A4000 or the Emu samplers all of which are going for much less. If you want to reproduce what the 909 sampler does then get an A4000 and BeatSlicer or ReCycle. Total cost $550 (ish). If you want to really manipulate audio without artifacts then it's definately worth it. I have talked with quite a few producers who swear by the VP9000 to really manipulate a vocal line, bassline, trumpets, pager sounds etc. In fact one producer even told me the vocalist didn't even realize she hadn't sung half the VP9000 tracks when she came in to listen to the comps. Andre -----Original Message----- From: studio6512 [mailto:studio6512@...] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:07 PM To: xl7@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [xl7] Re: Roland vs. E-mu Sounds Is it worth the money, since the MC-909 is only a couple of hundred dollars more? -----Original Message----- From: Andre Lewis [mailto:andrel@...] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:07 PM To: xl7@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [xl7] Re: Roland vs. E-mu Sounds It's really a variphrase on steroids, and in a lot of respects it IS like a traditional sampler, in that you can play material above and below it's source key with very little noticable degradation, with formant correction. Not to mention liquid drum loops at any tempo. It holds audio internally and you have to preencode everything but there is batch processing software for it. Good enough for me :) Andre -----Original Message----- From: studio6512 [mailto:studio6512@...] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:41 PM To: xl7@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [xl7] Re: Roland vs. E-mu Sounds But this is really not a sampler though, is it? I would like the autochop feature coupled with one of the xx7 boxes. man would that be sweet. (8o) -----Original Message----- From: Andre Lewis [mailto:andrel@...] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:11 PM To: xl7@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [xl7] Re: Roland vs. E-mu Sounds I think the command station and one of these should do the trick: http://www.8thstreet.com/product.asp?ProductCode=6242 <http://www.8thstreet.com/product.asp?ProductCode=6242 <http://www.8thstreet.com/product.asp?ProductCode=6242&Category=Synthesizers > &Category=Synthesizers > &Category=Synthesizers I'd rather keep my 505 and divy up for the variphrase by itself. Especially since they dropped a bit of the functionality from the 909. I'm not worried about the 909 soundset, I allready have it on other gear. Andre -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Eppolito [mailto:synthesis77@...] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:21 PM To: xl7@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Roland vs. E-mu Sounds --- Ravi Ivan Sharma <noision1@...> wrote: > On the roland you may have to apply a slicing procedure to a sample, Ahh. Got it. I did manage to get it to do that (but then it spewed the sample over 16 notes of the drummap, but there's probably a way around that). It was automatic (sort of) in that you set a transient threshold, above which it would slice the sample. Worked fine for a drumloop, not so great for instruments or vocals. For anyone who's wondering, it was almost exactly like the Motif's "audio sequencing". Kinda seems like the guys who design the variphrase stuff and the guys who design the groovebox stuff don't talk that much to each other... Guess we'll have to wait for the MC-13013 for the full time/pitch/formant variphrase stuff! -Aaron __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=241773.2861422.4212389.2848452/D=egroupweb/S=17077098 65:HM/A=1394046/R=0/*http:/www.hgtv.com/hgtv/pac_ctnt/text/0,,HGTV_3936_5802 ,FF.html> HGTV Dream Home Giveaway <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=241773.2861422.4212389.2848452/D=egroupmai l/S=:HM/A=1394046/rand=753375063> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. 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RE: [xl7] Re: Roland vs. E-mu Sounds
2003-01-29 by Andre Lewis