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newby needs a lift

newby needs a lift

2004-04-12 by davidnadelman

Hey I just got my xl-7 with the mo phatt rom installed on it.  I am 
struggling with the machine so far due to the fact that it is my 
first piece of equipment ever.  I am having a hard time making the 
most basic piece of music that is listenable.  If you could be a 
teacher with this equipment what would you assign as homework?  Are 
there any suggestions to help me out.  I don't have the full manual 
yet but the parts I have I am hurting to read becuase I don't 
understand some of the lingo.  Anyhow any suggestions or help would 
be nice to hear thanks.

Re: newby needs a lift

2004-04-13 by soundcrafter

The best thing you can do for yourself is get the complete manual 
printed up.  The XL is a real great piece of equipment, and it will 
do lots of things, but this means it has a learning curve... 
especially if this is your first synth. 

I've been thru a lot of synths... I've had my XL for about a year 
now, and I'm just starting to explore its more advanced features.

The manual for the XL is very well written, and it will teach you 
everything you need to know, from basic terminology on up.  There 
should be a PDF in the files section of this group, or you can find 
it on www.emu.com

If you have Kinkos in your area you can have the PDF printed and 
bound with a cover for about $28, and you can submit it online and 
pick it up next day.

Short of that, if you give us some more information as to what's 
tripping you up, I'm sure people here would be happy to help.

D


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> Hey I just got my xl-7 with the mo phatt rom installed on it.  I am 
> struggling with the machine so far due to the fact that it is my 
> first piece of equipment ever.  I am having a hard time making the 
> most basic piece of music that is listenable.  If you could be a 
> teacher with this equipment what would you assign as homework?  Are 
> there any suggestions to help me out.  I don't have the full manual 
> yet but the parts I have I am hurting to read becuase I don't 
> understand some of the lingo.  Anyhow any suggestions or help would 
> be nice to hear thanks.

Re: newby needs a lift

2004-04-13 by djangorsnospamm

Hi everyone,
It's been almost 2 weeks since I got my XL-7. This is my first 
hardware synth too. I find the manual very dense so I can relate 
quite well to David's point of view. :)
I wish i could have found some documentation structured more like in 
a teacher to student style. Still I managed, painfully :), to learn 
to use the sequencer up to some point. 
Anyway the command station is a wonderful piece of equipment and the 
enthusiasm of having this new "toy" keeps me motivated.
SoundCrafter, wow - a year is quite a time - i figure this synth is a 
real beast then.

Re: [xl7] Re: newby needs a lift

2004-04-13 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Just out of curiousity, what do you consider to be the more advanced 
features?  Just wondering what others think of the machine in terms of 
what's easiest to learn and what's more difficult.

rEalm





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now, and I'm just starting to explore its more advanced features.


 






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Re: [xl7] newby needs a lift

2004-04-13 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Honestly, one of the best things you can do is make sure you have 
downloaded the latest version of the manual (revision G) from the Emu 
site, and go to Kinko's or something and have it printed out.  The newer 
versions of the manuals have been re-written, and are definitely laid out 
better than the original manuals that may come with your XX-7 (IMO).

Anyway, once you get the manual printed out, take a quick read through the 
WHOLE THING.  Front to back, read it all the way through.  Don't worry 
about the details so much at this point, just try and get an overall feel 
for how the XX-7 is organized, and maybe try to remember some of what it's 
capable of.  If you know what it CAN do, it's less important remember HOW 
to do it, since you can always look up the details later on if need be 
(truth be told, the XX-7'sa re very intuitive too, so it's pretty easy to 
figure out on your own how to do something).  Get a feel for how the menus 
are organized, and what the different parts/functions of the XX-7 are.  I 
would personally break them down as follows:

- Pattern creation and editing
- Preset Editing
- Global functions (Global menu, Controller Menu, Midi menu)
- Song creation and editing (If you don't use Song mode, this may not be 
important, though it's alway good to know)

The next step is to sit down with the XX-7, and explore a bit.  Dive into 
the menus, see what look familiar from your manual reading, see what still 
looks foreign to you.  This will give you a rough idea of the things you 
need to pay attention to next time you read the manaul.  Which leads me 
to...

Read the manual again.  :)  Not always fun I know, but this is the 
important part.  Pick one of the aspects above (or however you personally 
broke down the different functions) and sit down with the manual and XX-7 
side by side, and work your way through that section of the manual. Preset 
Editing for instance, pick a Factory preset you like, and with that 
section of the manual open next to you, go through all of the Preset Edit 
Menu options, getting a feel for what they all do.  Do a different section 
every day (or week, whatever) until you start to feel more comfortable 
with things.

More tips:

- Don't worry if you still are having trouble with certain functions. 
Patchcords for instance can be very confusing at first, and it can take a 
lot of time and experimentation to get a good grasp of what they can do. 
I've had my XX-7 for a long time now, and I'm still learning things about 
this one!
- Don't rush it.  Learning a musical instrument takes time, and practice. 
There's no substitute for this, if you want to be good, you WILL have to 
put the hours in to be confortable with the XX-7.  It's no different from 
learning how to play thye guitar in this regards.
- Don't hesitate to ask question here, not matter how basic you think they 
may be.  That's what we're here for!
- Read the manual a third time after a couple of months of playing with 
the XX-7.  This time you'll be able to skim the section you already know, 
and just focus on the things you don't know so well.  I think people 
should do this at least once a year for the first few years, as there's 
still things I learn each time I read it. (Yes, I do reread all my manuals 
regularly).
- Have fun, and spend as much time as you can using the XX-7, no matter 
how frustrating it gets.  The more time you spend on it, the more familiar 
you'll get with it, guaranteed!
- Be sure to read the FAQ and "Tips and Tricks" documents in the files 
section of this group too, the FAQ in particular clarifies a lot of 
questions newbies have.

Hope this helps,
rEalm






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Hey I just got my xl-7 with the mo phatt rom installed on it.  I am 
struggling with the machine so far due to the fact that it is my 
first piece of equipment ever.  I am having a hard time making the 
most basic piece of music that is listenable.  If you could be a 
teacher with this equipment what would you assign as homework?  Are 
there any suggestions to help me out.  I don't have the full manual 
yet but the parts I have I am hurting to read becuase I don't 
understand some of the lingo.  Anyhow any suggestions or help would 
be nice to hear thanks. 




 
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Re: newby needs a lift

2004-04-14 by soundcrafter

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Just out of curiousity, what do you consider to be the more 
advanced 
> features?  Just wondering what others think of the machine in terms 
of 
> what's easiest to learn and what's more difficult.
> 
> rEalm
 
Well, when I got my XL, I bought it as a replacement for my computer 
sequencer.  So I focused on learning how to use it to control and 
sequence my other gear.  For the longest time, I pretty much just 
used it as a basic sequencer. It's just recently that I've begun to 
delve into the synth side of it, and the more advanced sequencer 
features like combining tracks and list edit. I just didn't need that 
stuff at the time.


> I've been thru a lot of synths... I've had my XL for about a year 
> now, and I'm just starting to explore its more advanced features.
> 

I think I scared the newby with this, so let me clarify :) I'm just 
now getting into the advanced features after a year, yes... but not 
because they are difficult to learn.  In all honesty, with a copy of 
the manual and some free time, you can probably get a good grasp of 
what's going on in a day or two.

AS you read thru the manual, try to figure out what iformation is 
relevant to what you're trying to do.  For example, you don't need 
information about controlling other synths (right now), so don't 
worry about it.  If you break things down into smaller blocks instead 
of trying to absorb the whole manual, it'll be much easier.

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