Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

i've been out of the loop for a while as far as playing with
electronic music making tools and want to get back into it with an all
in one unit such as the the xl-7 or mp-7. i'm into making both
straight up house/techno grooves as well as electronic infused indie
rock, where i'd use the box for accompaniment to singing and
strumming. i'm also interested in building up some more hardware in
the future. i'd like feedback on how it does sequencing external gear
(including user assignable knobs) as well as how it is as a sequencer
in general (muting un muting tracks and does it allow on the fly
composition). finally i'm not sure which soundset i'd like to start
with. i think perhaps i'd like both, which means i'd get either one
and then buy the rom for the one i'm missing. how many of you have
done that? easy to install?  thanks for any guidance you can give. 

john

Honestly, trying to describe the way th sequencer functions is going
to be a REALLY lengthy post.  I suggest you take a look at the PDF
manual which you can get for free from either the files section of
this group, or from the Emu website.

I think that f you're into indie rock as well as house, you might want
to check out the PX-7 instead.  The drum samples are way better than
the ones on the MP or XP, and it has lots ofother sounds as well.  I
would recommend that coupled with the P2500 ROM instead, I think 
those two roms offer more.

As for how hard the ROMs are to install, it's very easy.  Each ROM you
buy from Emu comes with directions for this, and you can find them
again in the files section of this group as well.

rEalm

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "pulaski909" <pulaski909@y...> wrote:

> 
> i've been out of the loop for a while as far as playing with
> electronic music making tools and want to get back into it with an all
> in one unit such as the the xl-7 or mp-7. i'm into making both
> straight up house/techno grooves as well as electronic infused indie
> rock, where i'd use the box for accompaniment to singing and
> strumming. i'm also interested in building up some more hardware in
> the future. i'd like feedback on how it does sequencing external gear
> (including user assignable knobs) as well as how it is as a sequencer
> in general (muting un muting tracks and does it allow on the fly
> composition). finally i'm not sure which soundset i'd like to start
> with. i think perhaps i'd like both, which means i'd get either one
> and then buy the rom for the one i'm missing. how many of you have
> done that? easy to install?  thanks for any guidance you can give. 
> 
> john

Lots to say here...

> i've been out of the loop for a while as far as playing with
> electronic music making tools and want to get back into it with an
> all
> in one unit such as the the xl-7 or mp-7. i'm into making both
> straight up house/techno grooves as well as electronic infused indie
> rock, where i'd use the box for accompaniment to singing and
> strumming. 

-->It's pretty decent for sequencing house/techno, tho I'm not really
impressed with it's abilities for math-rock and the casio-esque
electroclash, etc. Most of those sort of bands rely heavily on synth
sounds, and while the xx-7s have some sounds in those vein, you'll get
bored quick as it's a rompler not a synthesizer - there's only so much
you can do with it. Don't get me wrong; there's lots of synth sounds in
here (esp if you buy extra roms) but I find an actual synth to be a lot
more flexible for that sort of music.

i'm also interested in building up some more hardware in
> the future. i'd like feedback on how it does sequencing external gear
> (including user assignable knobs) as well as how it is as a sequencer
> in general (muting un muting tracks and does it allow on the fly
> composition). 

-->Personally, I find it excellent at sequencing my other gear. I use
it to sequence a jp8000 and a nord micromodular live, and it works
exceptionally well for that. It does allow on the fly composition - I
find it's more editable in realtime than most other hardware sequencers
I'm familiar with... and yes, it certainly allows mute/unmute of
tracks. The whole thing is pretty easy to get the hang of, and that's
saying a lot because there's really a lot to it.

finally i'm not sure which soundset i'd like to start
> with. i think perhaps i'd like both, which means i'd get either one
> and then buy the rom for the one i'm missing. how many of you have
> done that? easy to install?  thanks for any guidance you can give. 

-->I came into an MP7 and then just recently acquired the XL-7 and Beat
Garden ROMs. VERY easy to install (tho, I've done quite a bit of
computer upgrades). I've got some 3,000 samples now, and it's almost
too many. The sounds are pretty darned good - I'm really not too
disappointed for what I write (breaks/downtempo). I haven't found a
clean 909 or 808 soundset yet, so I'm not sure you'll be able to write
typical house tracks, but you definitely can write quite a bit of
atypical ones. 

I might recommend the XL7, but I might not recommend the MP7 ROM to
you. Maybe the Techno Synth Construction Yard, or the Vintage Synth ROM
might be more up your alley. 

Mine quickly has become a centerpiece of my live setup.


cosinezero


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thanks cosinezero (and also to rEalm). that helps a lot. i have
experience with hardware seqs (used to use a kawai q80) so i'm hopeful
that i will indeed get the hang of it fairly easily. i'm drawn to emu
because i've had two of their samplers (an emax and an esi-32) and i
find the way they typically organize menus and what not to be far more
intuitive than other brands. 

>>>The XX-7 sequencer is very intuitive and fast to use, you won't be 
disappointed. :) <<<

they also have a reputation for having
good filters, which i expect holds true for the xl/mp/px. (right?)

>>>Yep, same filters as the rest of the Emu gear. <<<<

rEalm
 








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thanks cosinezero (and also to rEalm). that helps a lot. i have
experience with hardware seqs (used to use a kawai q80) so i'm hopeful
that i will indeed get the hang of it fairly easily. i'm drawn to emu
because i've had two of their samplers (an emax and an esi-32) and i
find the way they typically organize menus and what not to be far more
intuitive than other brands. they also have a reputation for having
good filters, which i expect holds true for the xl/mp/px. (right?) i
do plan on getting another cheap synth to expand my soundset but i
think a command station would be a good (re)starting
centerpiece/brain. now i just have to find one for sale :-\

thanks again, and hopefully i'll be back here posting and learning and
contributing when i finally manage to track down one of these things.

cheers,

pulaski



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "cosine... zero" <cosinezero@y...> wrote:

> 
> Lots to say here...
> 
> > i've been out of the loop for a while as far as playing with
> > electronic music making tools and want to get back into it with an
> > all
> > in one unit such as the the xl-7 or mp-7. i'm into making both
> > straight up house/techno grooves as well as electronic infused indie
> > rock, where i'd use the box for accompaniment to singing and
> > strumming. 
> 
> -->It's pretty decent for sequencing house/techno, tho I'm not really
> impressed with it's abilities for math-rock and the casio-esque
> electroclash, etc. Most of those sort of bands rely heavily on synth
> sounds, and while the xx-7s have some sounds in those vein, you'll get
> bored quick as it's a rompler not a synthesizer - there's only so much
> you can do with it. Don't get me wrong; there's lots of synth sounds in
> here (esp if you buy extra roms) but I find an actual synth to be a lot
> more flexible for that sort of music.
> 
> i'm also interested in building up some more hardware in
> > the future. i'd like feedback on how it does sequencing external gear
> > (including user assignable knobs) as well as how it is as a sequencer
> > in general (muting un muting tracks and does it allow on the fly
> > composition). 
> 
> -->Personally, I find it excellent at sequencing my other gear. I use
> it to sequence a jp8000 and a nord micromodular live, and it works
> exceptionally well for that. It does allow on the fly composition - I
> find it's more editable in realtime than most other hardware sequencers
> I'm familiar with... and yes, it certainly allows mute/unmute of
> tracks. The whole thing is pretty easy to get the hang of, and that's
> saying a lot because there's really a lot to it.
> 
> finally i'm not sure which soundset i'd like to start
> > with. i think perhaps i'd like both, which means i'd get either one
> > and then buy the rom for the one i'm missing. how many of you have
> > done that? easy to install?  thanks for any guidance you can give. 
> 
> -->I came into an MP7 and then just recently acquired the XL-7 and Beat
> Garden ROMs. VERY easy to install (tho, I've done quite a bit of
> computer upgrades). I've got some 3,000 samples now, and it's almost
> too many. The sounds are pretty darned good - I'm really not too
> disappointed for what I write (breaks/downtempo). I haven't found a
> clean 909 or 808 soundset yet, so I'm not sure you'll be able to write
> typical house tracks, but you definitely can write quite a bit of
> atypical ones. 
> 
> I might recommend the XL7, but I might not recommend the MP7 ROM to
> you. Maybe the Techno Synth Construction Yard, or the Vintage Synth ROM
> might be more up your alley. 
> 
> Mine quickly has become a centerpiece of my live setup.
> 
> 
> cosinezero
> 
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