Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

if i was in grid mode could i use it to send on/off messages? to
another step sequencer?

alas, no.  would be cool though.

there MIGHT be some way to get them to generate sysex if you enable
front panel button emulation, but I don't think we updated that stuff
when we went from the p2k to the xl7.  if you're really adventurous,
you could download the p2k sysex manual and try it, but I think it
won't do it.

alternatively, you could use "triggers" mode to send note events. 
they'll even latch with the LED on if you want...

-Aaron

--- malik <malik_martin@...> wrote:
> 
> if i was in grid mode could i use it to send on/off messages? to
> another step sequencer?

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thanks i'lllook for the p2k sysex manual. maybe i can learn something.
but its the same with my ms2000b it only sends "position" messages
internaaly

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:

> alas, no.  would be cool though.
> 
> there MIGHT be some way to get them to generate sysex if you enable
> front panel button emulation, but I don't think we updated that stuff
> when we went from the p2k to the xl7.  if you're really adventurous,
> you could download the p2k sysex manual and try it, but I think it
> won't do it.
> 
> alternatively, you could use "triggers" mode to send note events. 
> they'll even latch with the LED on if you want...
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > 
> > if i was in grid mode could i use it to send on/off messages? to
> > another step sequencer?
> 
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you mean pk-6 tho right? :)

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:

> 
> thanks i'lllook for the p2k sysex manual. maybe i can learn something.
> but its the same with my ms2000b it only sends "position" messages
> internaaly
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> > alas, no.  would be cool though.
> > 
> > there MIGHT be some way to get them to generate sysex if you enable
> > front panel button emulation, but I don't think we updated that stuff
> > when we went from the p2k to the xl7.  if you're really adventurous,
> > you could download the p2k sysex manual and try it, but I think it
> > won't do it.
> > 
> > alternatively, you could use "triggers" mode to send note events. 
> > they'll even latch with the LED on if you want...
> > 
> > -Aaron
> > 
> > --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > if i was in grid mode could i use it to send on/off messages? to
> > > another step sequencer?
> > 
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
> > http://mail.yahoo.com

just checked it out seems that it might be from the remote front panel
commands(if sysex is written in human english) mgith be a button even
or even an LED state event???? 

i dunno where to go after that. bought a humungous book on midi a
coupple years back but it didnt teach me anything i didnt knaw and
taught me next to nothing about sysex...

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> 
> you mean pk-6 tho right? :)
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > 
> > thanks i'lllook for the p2k sysex manual. maybe i can learn something.
> > but its the same with my ms2000b it only sends "position" messages
> > internaaly
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> > > alas, no.  would be cool though.
> > > 
> > > there MIGHT be some way to get them to generate sysex if you enable
> > > front panel button emulation, but I don't think we updated that
stuff

> > > when we went from the p2k to the xl7.  if you're really adventurous,
> > > you could download the p2k sysex manual and try it, but I think it
> > > won't do it.
> > > 
> > > alternatively, you could use "triggers" mode to send note events. 
> > > they'll even latch with the LED on if you want...
> > > 
> > > -Aaron
> > > 
> > > --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > if i was in grid mode could i use it to send on/off messages? to
> > > > another step sequencer?
> > > 
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
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A year or two ago I tried to master the E-Mu Remote Control Sysex
(OS2.0/P2500). I do not have my notes at hand, but I seem to recall 
there were some gaps in front panel emulation. Without checking, I 
don't recall if the 16 trigger/mute buttons transmit and receive 
Remote Control Sysex. (I do recall some gaps with transport 
emulation.)

Also, not all of the remote functionality is documented in the 
Proteus Family Sysex Manual. 

At the time I got the feeling remote control in OS2.0 was a work-in-
progress, but now I get the feeling it may have been tranferred from 
the non-sequencer software.

If it helps, I will try to dig out my notes.

--Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> alas, no.  would be cool though.
> 
> there MIGHT be some way to get them to generate sysex if you enable
> front panel button emulation, but I don't think we updated that 
stuff

> when we went from the p2k to the xl7.  if you're really adventurous,
> you could download the p2k sysex manual and try it, but I think it
> won't do it.
> 
> alternatively, you could use "triggers" mode to send note events. 
> they'll even latch with the LED on if you want...
> 
> -Aaron

Just did a quick test: 

1. Opened remote control
2. Pressed buttons
3. Monitored sysex sent from P2500

Results: 

Neither the transport nor the 16 trigger/mute buttons transmitted 
remote control sysex.

F0 18 0F dd 55 40 10 F7 = open remote control
F0 18 0F dd 55 40 11 F7 = close remote control

where dd = sysex ID [MIDI menu system]

Hope this helps.

Footnote: On my P2500, if the master volume is < 100%, master volume 
data is sent nearly constantly when remote control is open.

--Steve

thanks for looking into that steve! a shame they dont transmit....
but arent the transport buttons supposed to send sysex? no wait thats
another midi format. sorry. oh well. man i love step sequencers. a
shame... :)

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote:

> 
> Just did a quick test: 
> 
> 1. Opened remote control
> 2. Pressed buttons
> 3. Monitored sysex sent from P2500
> 
> Results: 
> 
> Neither the transport nor the 16 trigger/mute buttons transmitted 
> remote control sysex.
> 
> F0 18 0F dd 55 40 10 F7 = open remote control
> F0 18 0F dd 55 40 11 F7 = close remote control
> 
> where dd = sysex ID [MIDI menu system]
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Footnote: On my P2500, if the master volume is < 100%, master volume 
> data is sent nearly constantly when remote control is open.
> 
> --Steve