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RE: [xl7] Digest Number 1799

2006-08-31 by Matt Picone

If you know a little about making your own .ins files, I have something that
can help: it's a spreadsheet I made to assemble mine, including all the
details of the Protean, World, Vintage, and Beat Garden ROMs.

I just uploaded it to the files section into a folder called "Sequencer
Support"

-m@
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From: xl7@yahoogroups.com [mailto:xl7@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:27 AM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Digest Number 1799

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1. Re: Cakewalk .INS question    
    From: sounddaddy2


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1. Re: Cakewalk .INS question
    Posted by: "sounddaddy2" sounddaddy2@... sounddaddy2
    Date: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:47 pm (PDT)

Hi Guys can you help me out .... I have everything loaded up but the MP
doesent recall patches when I open a project in Sonar 5 ... I have a Yamaha
RS7000 with .ins in Sonar at it works fine.

On the MP I have to scroll to the proper rom and see the patches as I make
changes in Sonar from the .ins files ... They are acurate and match each
other perfectly.

The only way I have been working around this is saving a multi of the song
on the MP and restoring it ... But i know there must be a way that I can't
figure out ... any help or guidance ??

If I create a pattern in the MP and save it via e-loader and then open it up
in Sonar it asks if I want to send sysex data and I say OK !!! ... The MP
plays all of the presets fine.

Just to be clear the problem I am having is when I write and go fishing for
sounds From/In Sonar .... They don't recall on the MP7 when I re-open in
Sonar.

I have Sonar 5 with an MP7 with 4 ROMs (POP,DRUM,PHATT,WORLD) an XL7 with
just the XL rom and an RS7000 .... I also have another MP7 that I use to
control Sonar and the soft syths.



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sounddaddy2" <sounddaddy2@...> wrote:
>
> --Thanks Steve ... Hopefully you can re-send it later ... i would
love
> to see your input.
> 
> Ok so here' s where I'm at ... i downloaded the PatchPro and created 
> .ins from my actual MP7 unit and ROMS ... I then loaded in Sonar...
> All show up and are perfect ... The problem I am having now is that 
> the the MP is not switching ROMS ... I can call up a preset in Sonar 
> for say World ROM bazouki on 012 bank 3 on channel 4 and the mp 
> switches preset and bank but not ROM ... I have to manually change
the
> ROM on the MP7.
> 
> When I close Sonar it remembers the patches I set but on reload it 
> does not recall the proper ROM on the MP7 ... seems to just revert
to
> slot 1 ... which is Mo Phat User/MP7 sounds.
> 
> 
> In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@> wrote:
> >
> > After typing an extensive reply, I got a server not available 
> > message when I went to send it. I will have to try to reconstruct
it 
> > later. Sorry.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sounddaddy2" <sounddaddy2@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > I have an MP& with PROM.. MOPHAT .. WORLD and DRUM and an XL7
with 
> > > the XL ROM.
> > > 
> > > I have downloaded the .ins from your link and sane deal.
> > > 
> > > I also have a Yamaha RS700 and that works perfect ... I dowloaded 
> > > .ins and it works.
> > > 
> > > Any Clues ??
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Diagnostic questions:
> > > > Which ROMS do you have installed?
> > > > Do USER presets have the same problem?
> > > > Do all installed ROMS have the same problem?
> > > > 
> > > > Have you looked at the *.ins files in this folder:
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/files/Command%20Station%
20Data/
> > > > 
> > > > Compare your *.ins definitions with those in p2k-all.ins
file. 
> > It
> > > > sounds like you are not using the right bank switching values
> > for
> > > the
> > > > ROMs you have. When Sonar tells the MP7 to switch to a bank
that 
> > > you
> > > > don't have a ROM for, that's the message you get (ROM NOT
> > > INSTALLED).
> > > > 
> > > > =============================================================
> > > > EXAMPLE [exceerpts from *.ins file using AOrch ROM in P2500]:
> > > > 
> > > > .Patch Names
> > > > 
> > > > [E-MU P2k: Advanced Orchestra: Bank 0 (8448)] 0=cmb:AdvancedOrch 
> > > > 1=cmb:Traditional 2=str:LegatoString 3=cmb:Orch Split etc.
> > > > 
> > > > .Instrument Definitions
> > > > 
> > > > [E-MU Proteus 2500]
> > > > Patch[8449]=E-MU P2k: Advanced Orchestra: Bank 1 (8449) 
> > > > Patch[8448]=E-MU P2k: Advanced Orchestra: Bank 0 (8448)
> > > > 
> > > > =============================================================
> > > > AOrch MSB = 66 [Find MSB of ROM by pressing audition]
> > > > 66*128 8448
> > > > Therefore, Bank 0 of the AOrch ROM is accessed as Patch[8448].
> > > > Bank 1 is Patch[8449].
> > > > 
> > > > If you try to switch to bank 8457, the E-Mu will look for
bank 9 
> > in
> > > > the ROM whose MSB is 66 and you will get the ROM NOT
INSTALLED 
> > > message.
> > > > If you try to switch to bank 9, the E-Mu will look for bank 9
in 
> > > User
> > > > memory.
> > > > 
> > > > You may know all this, but maybe not. Hope it helps. 
> > > > 
> > > > --Steve
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sounddaddy2" <sounddaddy2@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have loaded several .ins files into Sonar ... I see
> > everything
> > > > > fine .... But when I go to a bank and click a preset in
Sonar 
> > My
> > > MP7
> > > > > pops up ROM NOT INSTALLED ???? on whatever channel I am
> > working
> > > > on ... 
> > > > > what's wrong ??
> > > > > 
> > > > > Also I have not been able to find definitions for the PROM
or 
> > > WORLD
> > > > > ROMS ... If anyone can help me that would be awesome ... 
> > thanks !
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>






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Re: Digest Number 1799

2006-08-31 by sounddaddy2

Hi Matt .... File is missing ... I guess it didn't stick ??


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Picone" <matman@...> wrote:
>
> If you know a little about making your own .ins files, I have
something that
> can help: it's a spreadsheet I made to assemble mine, including all the
> details of the Protean, World, Vintage, and Beat Garden ROMs.
> 
> I just uploaded it to the files section into a folder called "Sequencer
> Support"
> 
> -m@
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xl7@yahoogroups.com [mailto:xl7@yahoogroups.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:27 AM
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [xl7] Digest Number 1799
> 
> There is 1 message in this issue.
> 
> Topics in this digest:
> 
> 1. Re: Cakewalk .INS question    
>     From: sounddaddy2
> 
> 
> Message
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 
> 1. Re: Cakewalk .INS question
>     Posted by: "sounddaddy2" sounddaddy2@... sounddaddy2
>     Date: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:47 pm (PDT)
> 
> Hi Guys can you help me out .... I have everything loaded up but the MP
> doesent recall patches when I open a project in Sonar 5 ... I have a
Yamaha
> RS7000 with .ins in Sonar at it works fine.
> 
> On the MP I have to scroll to the proper rom and see the patches as
I make
> changes in Sonar from the .ins files ... They are acurate and match each
> other perfectly.
> 
> The only way I have been working around this is saving a multi of
the song
> on the MP and restoring it ... But i know there must be a way that I
can't
> figure out ... any help or guidance ??
> 
> If I create a pattern in the MP and save it via e-loader and then
open it up
> in Sonar it asks if I want to send sysex data and I say OK !!! ...
The MP
> plays all of the presets fine.
> 
> Just to be clear the problem I am having is when I write and go
fishing for
> sounds From/In Sonar .... They don't recall on the MP7 when I re-open in
> Sonar.
> 
> I have Sonar 5 with an MP7 with 4 ROMs (POP,DRUM,PHATT,WORLD) an XL7
with
> just the XL rom and an RS7000 .... I also have another MP7 that I use to
> control Sonar and the soft syths.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sounddaddy2" <sounddaddy2@> wrote:
> >
> > --Thanks Steve ... Hopefully you can re-send it later ... i would
> love
> > to see your input.
> > 
> > Ok so here' s where I'm at ... i downloaded the PatchPro and created 
> > .ins from my actual MP7 unit and ROMS ... I then loaded in Sonar...
> > All show up and are perfect ... The problem I am having now is that 
> > the the MP is not switching ROMS ... I can call up a preset in Sonar 
> > for say World ROM bazouki on 012 bank 3 on channel 4 and the mp 
> > switches preset and bank but not ROM ... I have to manually change
> the
> > ROM on the MP7.
> > 
> > When I close Sonar it remembers the patches I set but on reload it 
> > does not recall the proper ROM on the MP7 ... seems to just revert
> to
> > slot 1 ... which is Mo Phat User/MP7 sounds.
> > 
> > 
> > In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@> wrote:
> > >
> > > After typing an extensive reply, I got a server not available 
> > > message when I went to send it. I will have to try to reconstruct
> it 
> > > later. Sorry.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sounddaddy2" <sounddaddy2@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > I have an MP& with PROM.. MOPHAT .. WORLD and DRUM and an XL7
> with 
> > > > the XL ROM.
> > > > 
> > > > I have downloaded the .ins from your link and sane deal.
> > > > 
> > > > I also have a Yamaha RS700 and that works perfect ... I dowloaded 
> > > > .ins and it works.
> > > > 
> > > > Any Clues ??
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Diagnostic questions:
> > > > > Which ROMS do you have installed?
> > > > > Do USER presets have the same problem?
> > > > > Do all installed ROMS have the same problem?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Have you looked at the *.ins files in this folder:
> > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/files/Command%20Station%
> 20Data/
> > > > > 
> > > > > Compare your *.ins definitions with those in p2k-all.ins
> file. 
> > > It
> > > > > sounds like you are not using the right bank switching values
> > > for
> > > > the
> > > > > ROMs you have. When Sonar tells the MP7 to switch to a bank
> that 
> > > > you
> > > > > don't have a ROM for, that's the message you get (ROM NOT
> > > > INSTALLED).
> > > > > 
> > > > > =============================================================
> > > > > EXAMPLE [exceerpts from *.ins file using AOrch ROM in P2500]:
> > > > > 
> > > > > .Patch Names
> > > > > 
> > > > > [E-MU P2k: Advanced Orchestra: Bank 0 (8448)]
0=cmb:AdvancedOrch 
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> > > > > 1=cmb:Traditional 2=str:LegatoString 3=cmb:Orch Split etc.
> > > > > 
> > > > > .Instrument Definitions
> > > > > 
> > > > > [E-MU Proteus 2500]
> > > > > Patch[8449]=E-MU P2k: Advanced Orchestra: Bank 1 (8449) 
> > > > > Patch[8448]=E-MU P2k: Advanced Orchestra: Bank 0 (8448)
> > > > > 
> > > > > =============================================================
> > > > > AOrch MSB = 66 [Find MSB of ROM by pressing audition]
> > > > > 66*128 8448
> > > > > Therefore, Bank 0 of the AOrch ROM is accessed as Patch[8448].
> > > > > Bank 1 is Patch[8449].
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you try to switch to bank 8457, the E-Mu will look for
> bank 9 
> > > in
> > > > > the ROM whose MSB is 66 and you will get the ROM NOT
> INSTALLED 
> > > > message.
> > > > > If you try to switch to bank 9, the E-Mu will look for bank 9
> in 
> > > > User
> > > > > memory.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You may know all this, but maybe not. Hope it helps. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --Steve
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sounddaddy2" <sounddaddy2@>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have loaded several .ins files into Sonar ... I see
> > > everything
> > > > > > fine .... But when I go to a bank and click a preset in
> Sonar 
> > > My
> > > > MP7
> > > > > > pops up ROM NOT INSTALLED ???? on whatever channel I am
> > > working
> > > > > on ... 
> > > > > > what's wrong ??
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Also I have not been able to find definitions for the PROM
> or 
> > > > WORLD
> > > > > > ROMS ... If anyone can help me that would be awesome ... 
> > > thanks !
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 
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