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Live Tips

2003-05-28 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

You could help me alot in detailed description on how do you prepare your 
live sets:

>>>Live sets to me are 90% about the preperation, and 10% about the 
performance.  I think there's two main schools of thought when it comes to 
playing live, planning so you can improvise, and planning so that you give 
the audience a repeatable performance.  I personally am the former type, I 
like constant threat of chaos when I perform, though certainly I plan on 
some sort of back up plan too. Please keep in mind that anything I list 
below is JUST MY METHOD of doing things live, there's certainly many, many 
ways to do it. <<<

How many patterns you're using for a song.

>>>For live stuff, typically only one.  I tend to think always think of 
each Pattern as it's own song, or shall I say the fundamentals of the 
song.  All the parts are there, and it's up to me to perform it in a way 
that adds variety and interest.  That being said, I do keep my past XL-7 
contest songs in the XL-7 for use in case things go south (er sudden trips 
to the bathroom too), as I can just load those up and press play and know 
that everything is done already and I have 6 minutes to grab another drink 
or get rid of one.  Not that I would do this for a larger show mind you :)

Anyway, right now each of my patterns is 16 measures long, though I'm 
toying with the ideal of shortening this back to the 8 measures I used to 
use in the past when I did live sets.  16 is nice because I can program 
more variations within the pattern, but it's a pain when I go to switch 
patterns and realize I've still got 15 measures to go too.  Each of my 
User Banks is organized by type so Bank 0 is 4/4 and trance stuff, Bank 1 
is breaks, Bank 2 is DnB, Bank 3 is downtempo, etc.  Bank 8 contains the 
Pattern data for any of my Songs, so I'm free to change up my Pattern 
order in any of the other Banks without worrying about affecting my Songs. 
 Additionally, if I'm going to be playing out somewhere, I copy all of the 
Patterns I want to play in the correct order to Bank 7 and use that Bank 
live.  I think of it as a set list, and it's easier to switch to the next 
Pattern than having to jump around between Banks, though that is obviously 
still an option if I think it's appropriate. <<<

I'm asking this because my top notch patterns are 32 bar long some are 
even 64 bar long (yes it works ! bar counter stays stuck at 32 but you 
hear it all !!!):

>>>HOW did you pull that off? :) <<<

Do you make your patterns to fit only in their respective song or to be 
blended with another ones? 

>>>Well, I consider each Pattern as an independant Song.  To help 
facilitate blending and switching between them all, I stick with a set 
Track/Mute layout.  IE, BD is always on Track 1, Snare on 2, bassline on 
9, Pads on 10, leads on 11-12, etc.  That way I know where everything is 
instinctively when I'm X-mixing between Patterns. <<<

Do you work on pre-defined transitions or just rely on improvisation?

>>>Always improv.  I'll do a trial run of the set first, just to make srue 
things aren't glaringly out of key or to get some rough ideas on what 
works between two Patterns, but that's it.  Additionally I made custom 
Presets that act as drum RPS phrases in the Triggers (via arps, lots of 
info I posted on this if you search the message archives from last year), 
and I use these while doing transisions too.  That way, when then switch 
Patterns, there's another level of consistancey playing.  This topic could 
be a whole nother email though.... <<<

rEalm
 


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Re: Live Tips

2003-06-07 by xromxx7

Hi Realm !
Once again you did go far beyond my expectations for my greatest 
pleasure !!! I could not thank you before for taking so much time 
writing down a new load of excellent tips cos my computer was 
attacked by a virus called W32.Pinfi that destroyed almost everything 
in it (Floppy disk , H.D.D ...)Two weeks with a dead PC prevented me 
from getting back here . Now I can see all that great suggestions and
my printer will surely explode too , but this is super cool !!! Many 
thanks to you and to all that have brought their contribution on this 
subject (live tips)

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:

>>>Please keep in mind that anything I list 
> below is JUST MY METHOD of doing things live, there's certainly 
>many, many ways to do it. <<<

Many aspects of your method will soon be part of mine he he !

>>>I copy all of the Patterns I want to play in the correct order to 
>Bank 7 and use that Bank live.  I think of it as a set list, and 
>it's easier to switch to the next Pattern than having to jump around 
between Banks<<<

So obvious ! but i never thought about this before ! i will do that !
 
> I'm asking this because my top notch patterns are 32 bar long some 
are even 64 bar long (yes it works ! bar counter stays stuck at 32 
but you hear it all !!!):

> >>>HOW did you pull that off? :) <<<

just do a one mile long song in cubase SX then E-load it to your 
yello..er..blue baby , but I'm sure you already knew the answer...

>>>Additionally I made custom Presets that act as drum RPS phrases in 
>the Triggers (via arps, >lots of info I posted on this if you search 
>the message archives from last year), and I use these while doing 
>transisions too.<<<<

THIS IS VERY VERY INTERESTING !!!! I will search for it , hope i can 
find it (Among 9000 messages , it seems to be very discouraging even 
if i'm sure it worth it!).......

Thanks again or your help !

Re: [xl7] Re: Live Tips

2003-06-07 by RONN GREEN

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Subject: [xl7] Re: Live Tips

Hi Realm !
Once again you did go far beyond my expectations for my greatest  
pleasure !!! I could not thank you before for taking so much time  
writing down a new load of excellent tips cos my computer was  
attacked by a virus called W32.Pinfi that destroyed almost everything  
in it (Floppy disk , H.D.D ...)Two weeks with a dead PC prevented me  
from getting back here . Now I can see all that great suggestions and
my printer will surely explode too , but this is super cool !!! Many  
thanks to you and to all that have brought their contribution on this  
subject (live tips)

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:

>>>Please keep in mind that anything I list  
> below is JUST MY METHOD of doing things live, there's certainly  
>many, many ways to do it. <<<

Many aspects of your method will soon be part of mine he he !

>>>I copy all of the Patterns I want to play in the correct order to  
>Bank 7 and use that Bank live.  I think of it as a set list, and  
>it's easier to switch to the next Pattern than having to jump around  
between Banks<<<

So obvious ! but i never thought about this before ! i will do that !

> I'm asking this because my top notch patterns are 32 bar long some  
are even 64 bar long (yes it works ! bar counter stays stuck at 32  
but you hear it all !!!):

> >>>HOW did you pull that off? :) <<<

just do a one mile long song in cubase SX then E-load it to your  
yello..er..blue baby , but I'm sure you already knew the answer...

>>>Additionally I made custom Presets that act as drum RPS phrases in  
>the Triggers (via arps, >lots of info I posted on this if you search  
>the message archives from last year), and I use these while doing  
>transisions too.<<<<

THIS IS VERY VERY INTERESTING !!!! I will search for it , hope i can  
find it (Among 9000 messages , it seems to be very discouraging even  
if i'm sure it worth it!).......

Thanks again or your help !


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Re: [xl7] Re: Live Tips

2003-06-07 by RONN GREEN

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----- Original Message -----
From: xromxx7
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 6:28 PM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Re: Live Tips

Hi Realm !
Once again you did go far beyond my expectations for my greatest  
pleasure !!! I could not thank you before for taking so much time  
writing down a new load of excellent tips cos my computer was  
attacked by a virus called W32.Pinfi that destroyed almost everything  
in it (Floppy disk , H.D.D ...)Two weeks with a dead PC prevented me  
from getting back here . Now I can see all that great suggestions and
my printer will surely explode too , but this is super cool !!! Many  
thanks to you and to all that have brought their contribution on this  
subject (live tips)

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:

>>>Please keep in mind that anything I list  
> below is JUST MY METHOD of doing things live, there's certainly  
>many, many ways to do it. <<<

Many aspects of your method will soon be part of mine he he !

>>>I copy all of the Patterns I want to play in the correct order to  
>Bank 7 and use that Bank live.  I think of it as a set list, and  
>it's easier to switch to the next Pattern than having to jump around  
between Banks<<<

So obvious ! but i never thought about this before ! i will do that !

> I'm asking this because my top notch patterns are 32 bar long some  
are even 64 bar long (yes it works ! bar counter stays stuck at 32  
but you hear it all !!!):

> >>>HOW did you pull that off? :) <<<

just do a one mile long song in cubase SX then E-load it to your  
yello..er..blue baby , but I'm sure you already knew the answer...

>>>Additionally I made custom Presets that act as drum RPS phrases in  
>the Triggers (via arps, >lots of info I posted on this if you search  
>the message archives from last year), and I use these while doing  
>transisions too.<<<<

THIS IS VERY VERY INTERESTING !!!! I will search for it , hope i can  
find it (Among 9000 messages , it seems to be very discouraging even  
if i'm sure it worth it!).......

Thanks again or your help !


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Re: Live Tips

2003-06-07 by robotchas

rEalm seems to be suffering from a computer virus himself at the moment, let's 
hope he gets it all sorted out soon and without losing anything.


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "xromxx7" <bonneau-c@w...> wrote:
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> Hi Realm !
> Once again you did go far beyond my expectations for my greatest 
> pleasure !!! I could not thank you before for taking so much time 
> writing down a new load of excellent tips cos my computer was 
> attacked by a virus called W32.Pinfi that destroyed almost everything

Re: [xl7] Re: Live Tips

2003-06-09 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Yeah, had a few people say my email is sending virus's, strange as our 
work firewall usually catches them  Done countless scans on my PC this AM 
after finding out I was supposedly infected, but nothing was found.

This is why my music PC will never be connected to the internet :)

rEalm






robotchas <robotchas@...>
06/07/2003 01:53 PM
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rEalm seems to be suffering from a computer virus himself at the moment, 
let's 
hope he gets it all sorted out soon and without losing anything.


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "xromxx7" <bonneau-c@w...> wrote:
> Hi Realm !
> Once again you did go far beyond my expectations for my greatest 
> pleasure !!! I could not thank you before for taking so much time 
> writing down a new load of excellent tips cos my computer was 
> attacked by a virus called W32.Pinfi that destroyed almost everything 




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RE: [xl7] Re: Live Tips

2003-06-09 by Stu

I think the one to look out for at the moment is bugbear 'b' which can spoof
the sender's email address using email addresses it finds on an infected
PC... so those emails could have come from anyone with emails from realm on
their pc... which is everyone on this list for a start!!

Regards,

Stu
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  From: erik_magrini@... [mailto:erik_magrini@...]
  Sent: 09 June 2003 13:20
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Live Tips


  Yeah, had a few people say my email is sending virus's, strange as our
  work firewall usually catches them  Done countless scans on my PC this AM
  after finding out I was supposedly infected, but nothing was found.

  This is why my music PC will never be connected to the internet :)

  rEalm






  robotchas <robotchas@...>
  06/07/2003 01:53 PM
  Please respond to xl7


          To:     xl7@yahoogroups.com
          cc:
          Subject:        [xl7] Re: Live Tips


  rEalm seems to be suffering from a computer virus himself at the moment,
  let's
  hope he gets it all sorted out soon and without losing anything.


  --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "xromxx7" <bonneau-c@w...> wrote:
  > Hi Realm !
  > Once again you did go far beyond my expectations for my greatest
  > pleasure !!! I could not thank you before for taking so much time
  > writing down a new load of excellent tips cos my computer was
  > attacked by a virus called W32.Pinfi that destroyed almost everything




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RE: [xl7] Re: Live Tips

2003-06-09 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Yep, Bugbear is the one I supposedly have....  Thanx for the info though.

rEalm




I think the one to look out for at the moment is bugbear 'b' which can 
spoof
the sender's email address using email addresses it finds on an infected
PC... so those emails could have come from anyone with emails from realm 
on
their pc... which is everyone on this list for a start!!




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