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Re: [xpantastic] Xpander midi overflow mode available?

2012-04-20 by Omar Torres

Someone just needs to make a 12-voice
version of the Roland System-100m 184 CV/Gate
controller keyboard and just use CV/Gate on
the Xpanders. Problem solved...:)

-omar

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On Apr 19, 2012, at 9:18 PM, PeWe <ha-pewe@...> wrote:

> 
> >>>
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> Am 20.04.2012 00:37, schrieb Bakis Sirros:
> 
>>  
>> hi list,
>> 
>> let's say you have two Xpanders midied together (midi out from one to midi in of the second).
>> does the Xpander support a 'midi overflow' mode, so you could play two Xpanders as one 12-voice machine?
> 
> NO !!!
> 
>> 
>> thanks in advance for your help!
> 
> There´s no help possible except a firmware/OS hack or a ext. hardware device which doesn´t exist AFAIK.
> 
> The Xpander MIDI Out set to "MIDI ECHO" just echoes what comes in at it´s MIDI Input.
> 
> A 2nd Xpander receiving MIDI info from the 1st Xpander´s MIDI Out (in MIDI Echo Mode) receives the SAME notes, controller data and sysex.
> That way, it will be 2 MIDI layered 6-voice Xpanders in general,- not discussing the common zoning features and combinations w/ 2 XPanders linked via MIDI here.
> 
> To make 2 6-voice Xpanders a 12-voice Xpander, in theory there would be 2 ways:
> 
> MIDI spill-over or recognition and MIDI filtering of odd and even MIDI note numbers.
> Some 19" MIDI tone generators use the MIDI note numbers.
> 
> Recognition of odd and even MIDI note numbers would work on the same MIDI channel in single-path mode and on the same MIDI channels in multi-patch mode, the zones set up exactly the same.
> That would be a functionality, we´d wish to have in the Xpander itself.
> 
> To be precise, Xpander #1 plays the even MIDI note numbers and Xpander #2 the odd MIDI note numbers.
> 
> IMO, it would be the more interesting method w/ 2 Xpanders because we also deal w/ the voice panning here which is not w/ a Matrix-1000.
> 
> If deviding odd and even MIDI note numbers would be a task for a masterkeyboard, the masterkeyboards features would be different,- p.ex. transmission of odd MIDI note numbers on MIDI channel X and even MIDI note numbers on MIDI channel Y (1 MIDI Out port),- and Xpander #1 set to MIDI Ch. X while Xpander #2 being set to MIDI channel Y, - the Xpanders daisy chained via MIDI Out Echo > MIDI In.
> 
> Or,- transmission of odd and even MIDI note numbers on 2 MIDI Out ports of the masterkeyboard (if it has 2 MIDI Out ports) but same MIDI channel,- each Xpander connected to one of these ports.
> 
> Or split of MIDI note numbers across 2 MIDI channels and 2 MIDI ports.
> 
> All is thinkable and would work.
> 
> Unfortunately, there´s no masterkeyboard out there I know, splitting odd and even MIDI note numbers and transmitting these on different MIDI channels or different MIDI ports.
> I hoped a Oberheim XK can but it doesn´t and none of my other keyboards does.
> Also my MIDITEMP PMM88E can´t.
> 
> If anyone knows a hardware MIDI processor doing that,- let me know ...
> 
> I´d call it "Odd-Even MIDI Note Splitter" (MIDI Ch. or MIDI Port Split)
> 
> If someone has the skills and thinks about building such little box,- splitting note numbers into MIDI channels on 1 MIDI port would be the most compact and cost effective solution.
> 
> I wonder why it doesn´t exist made by Midisolutions,- they have the skills to realize that w/ ease.
> Possibly it could be realized w/ this box,- just the processing function is missing:
> http://www.midisolutions.com/prodepp.htm#
> 
> They do modifications of their products on demand as also customized products.
> http://www.midisolutions.com/about.htm
> 
> If that is done,- you need a keyboard providing power over MIDI to their boxes,- in the FAQ is a long list which products don´t and I doubt it´s complete.
> http://www.midisolutions.com/faqs.htm
> 
>> 
>> best regards,     :-)
>> Bakis.
> 
> ditto
> 
> PeWe
> 
> 
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