Xpantastic!

Thanks I will look into getting the Syntaur solution... it isn't so expensive really...

--- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, Omar <holografique@...> wrote:
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> I agree, cleaning is a temporary solution IMO and I've had similar
> experiences as you.
> 
> you need the debounce capacitors. And the kit I used was the same kit from
> Syntaur. High quality encoders and well worth it.
> 
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> On Saturday, March 23, 2013, orangefunk wrote:
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> >
> >
> > I originally cleaned my encoders with Deoxit that I was given by DSI to
> > clean my PolyEvolver (which degraded after only a year). I only did 2 drops
> > in each encoder and everything worked perfectly...
> >
> > However, the fix is only temporary (on both the DSI and Oberheim) and
> > gradually the problems come back... on the DSI the problem was back in 1
> > year, on the Oberheim it took 2 years but I hadn't used it a lot in that
> > time.
> >
> > So I can do the same again or change the encoders and I am favouring the
> > encoder change.
> >
> > The question is... which encoders? I have seen the encoder set at syntaur
> > and that also has debouncers (are these needed?) but I am wondering if a
> > cheaper alternative exists... these encoders are literally a dollar a piece
> > aren't they?
> >
> > --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> > 'xpantastic%40yahoogroups.com');>, PeWe <ha-pewe@> wrote:
> > >
> > > We replaced the Schmitt-Trigger chips in my Xpander and cleaned the
> > > rotarys w/ Servisol Super 10 switch cleaner even we had buyed
> > > replacements alread and were about replacing the old ones.
> > > My Xpander now works like new w/ the original rotarys.
> > > I now have 2 originals left as spare parts ´cause these can be cleaned
> > > too AND 6 of the new replacement encoders,- enough for the rest of my
> > life.
> > >
> > > In fact, we did that by interest and were surprised how good it worked,-
> > > so we kept the originals and it also saved some work and time.
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 23.03.2013 21:11, schrieb Omar:
> > > >
> > > > I recently replaced the encoders on my Xpander and it was not that
> > > > difficult to get the caps off the encoders. they should come up with a
> > > > slight amount of pressure. The tricky part is that they are fitted
> > > > very tight with very little "space" between the cap and the rim of the
> > > > encoder shaft (at least mine were fitted very tight. It may vary from
> > > > unit to unit). I had to use an exacto-blade and carefully work it
> > > > underneath the cap edge as to not damage the encoder or the cap
> > > > itself. Once I got the blade under the edge, I only had to apply a
> > > > small bit off pressure to lift them off.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Also make sure you use the right desoldering technique when replacing
> > > > the actual encoders. The old solder on my Xpander was difficult to get
> > > > off on a couple of the encoders, and eventually I had to clip a couple
> > > > of them which made it diificult to get the new ones to get a solid
> > > > connection. I eventually got a stable solder down. Long and tedious
> > > > work though.
> > > >
> > > > good luck. Its worth it in the end. I love the feel of new encoders
> > > > on the Xpander. They are still detented, but nowhere near as loud and
> > > > "clicky" as the originals were. Much smoother and quiter operation.
> > > > And they turn much faster while still giving pecise movement when
> > > > slowed down.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, March 23, 2013, orangefunk wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thinking of replacing the encoders at some point as one of them is
> > > > out and another is intermittent. I have the excellent Xplorer
> > > > software but functions like pan position aren't possible from it.
> > > >
> > > > But I am having some concern about how to remove the caps from the
> > > > current encoders. The ones on my Matrix 12 feel like they are
> > > > glued on and won't budge a millimetre. How are they fastened?
> > > > Should they come off easily?
> > > >
> > > > Best regards
> > > >
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