I fitted the Syntaur kit over the weekend and it works a treat. It was quite a lot of soldering and exchanging of capacitors though (removal of 12 capacitors and soldering in of 18). I am just thankful it works :) Just a comment though, I think the resolution of the encoders has changed as now it takes two or three clicks to change a value... not so bad really and easy to get used to... maybe I am wrong but weren't the original encoders one click to an increment/decrement? --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, Omar <holografique@...> wrote: > > the new encoders from Syntaur are MUCH better than the originals and are high > quality. I don't see any reason why they wouldnt last as long or longer > than the NOS encoders. > > > > On Saturday, March 23, 2013, PeWe wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > Am 23.03.2013 21:49, schrieb Omar: > > > > > > > > good to know as an option. Ive used cleaning solutions on some of my other > > gear, like my System-100m. However usually it does not change the physical > > "feel" of the pot/fader movement. So if it feels tough to move or doesnt > > slide smoothly and evenly, then it usually needs to be replaced regardless > > of how much cleaning you do. > > > > > > The original encoders never felt "smooth",- I´m 1st owner of my Xpander. > > But they are very rugged and any replacements aren´t ! > > > > When we ordered the replacement encoders from Mouser, one soldering lug > > broke on one of the encoders while unpacking,- and we did it careful ! > > > > > > Im just very particular of how faders/pots feel to the touch when being > > moved. Its part of the hands-on experience and "feeling" the quality of the > > instrument. > > > > > > The instrument is and keeps a quality one also w/ the original encoders. > > > > I´m sure these are cleanable for several times and I had to do it for the > > 1st time after a quarter of a century. > > That said,- I replaced 2 of ´em many years ago w/ original parts,- that´s > > why I have 2 left over now. > > > > The Schmitt Trigger chips are very responsible for the functionality of > > the rotary encoders and it was already much better after replacement of the > > chips w/ rotarys uncleaned. > > The clean job was the ice on the cake then. > > I haven´t done it myself,- my tech did and he worked in a very well known > > music shop in my hometown as a service tech already in the 80s, so he had > > experience disassembling the Xpander and opening the rotarys. > > > > We did a almost complete overhaul, step by step and up to now,- replaced > > all switches and re-capped the PSU. > > > > I also had the issue tuning proceedure failed on some voices randomly when > > pushing the [ALL] button. > > After the switch was replaced,- no issues anymore so it seemed it double > > triggered. > > > > My original intention was also to replace all the 2.2uF voiceboard caps,- > > but that was totally unnecessary,- it works and sounds like a charme again. > > > > Now for the future, I don´t want to overstress the beauty like I did when > > touring w/ it,- so I´ll buy Xplorer application in addition. > > I hope it gets Multi-Patch support one day. > > > > > > how do your Xpander encoders feel after cleaning them? > > > > > > They feel like they did when I buyed it new,- see above ... > > They are relatively loud and have some resistance though. > > > > But I´ve found it better to keep the instrument as original as it can be,- > > so replacing stuff by other parts is the last option for me. > > I´m pretty sure, none of todays replacement encoder will last that long as > > the originals did and do. > > > > I´m happy I didn´t have to modify much,- not to deal w/ different encoder > > bushing sizes and different debounce parts. > > > > Your milage may vary ... > > > > PeWe > > > > > > >
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Re: Removing the Encoder caps
2013-04-14 by orangefunk
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