Hi PeWe, OK, I should have said entirely analog signal chain. BTW my schematics show the Chroma, as not using any CEM envelope generators but rather generating these functions in software. (being a natural evolution from the multiplexed architecture of a hybrid Analog/ Digital synth). Thanks for the link. It is a good read, but I am pretty careful about where my money goes. I have been a little sloppy lately because I finally have my house paid for. The V-Synth was defiantly an impulse buy. You sound too well versed in electronics to be only a musician. Whats your backup job? Also, what do you think of the JoMox stuff? Karl --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, PeWe <ha-pewe@...> wrote: > > Hmmm,- the Matrix12 and the Xpander aren´t entirely analog polyphonic > synths. > Entirely analog polyphonic synths were the SEM based Obies, OBX and > OBXa, the Prophets, the Jupiter-8, Memorymoog, ARP/Rhodes Chroma and > Elka Synthex ... > > All synths which generated envelopes, most VCAs, ramps and so on by > software aren´t entirely analogs at all. > > Entirely analog synths are manufactured up today, Moog Voyagers,- the > modulars,- and these can be configurated to be polyphonic, but this > becomes very expensive then,- for the user ! > > But it´s not impossible to do it, see Doepfer, Cwejman, Synthesis > Technology and some more exotic small companys,- and they all have their > customers. Why ? Answer: They keep it small. > > IMO, the companys like Sequential, Oberheim and Alesis had to give up > because of some kind of mismanagement in the marketing strategys. Their > product pallette grew up too fast,- there were a lot of shitty and > unneccessary "small boxes" synths and drumachines been manufactured by > the big companys in the past. > Products like Sixtrak, Studio400, Jupiter6, Matrix 6 keyboard, OB- SX > made me laugh in the past as also all these little midi helpers like > Strummer and so on. > The Prophet10 was a unneccessary product and the T-8 suffered from the > cheap oscillatorts from the Sixtrack, but Sequential died by the Prophet > 2000 sampler. Sampling was too expensive at that time and a niche market > already covered by EMU in the professional range and then the Mirage > came as the killer in price. > > For pros, the price was never the main factor in buying gear or not,- > but swap the market w/ tons of cheap gear to make music/noises,- all > start to "produce" and the fee for work in the music biz goes down, also > for the pros. > > Meanwhile, the biz is down worldwide and there are tons of (bad) music > for free as also illegal copys all arount ... > Now, we have the situation of much more musicians, less jobs, small fee > but also a request of more knowledge tech wise and a never ending > learning curve. > "Please do everything imaginable w/ your professor like knowledge and > all your gear, but don´t ask for money. Be happy w/ the credits you > eventually get if the stuff will be released". That seems to be the rule > today. > > Kill the pro music biz and you kill the willingness to invest in high > quality gear for a adaquate price which results in a more or less junk > market of electronic noise generators,- hardware or software. > 90% I see is crap, bad coded or built from cheap parts,- no reliability > at all, no guarateed future and all made for the masses. > > On the other side: The crowd is satisfied w/ this, users of gear as also > customers of music. > > As you, Karl, I think it´s good to take care of the vintage beauties if > you own these,- and as long as you can. > But in some future, it can also become a nitemare which you cannot > afford if you don´t take care on your biz and the music biz itself. It´s > also important to take care for the machines don´t dominate you and your > creativity. > > No one buys any music because you have one or more vintage synths. Even > if it sounds better, it can be a crappy song p.ex. and if it´s not, > there´s always someone needed who´s able to recognize the difference in > sound and this within a mix ! > > I´ve found this some time ago and it´s worth to read IMO ... > > > http://users.rcn.com/thefront/gearaholic.html > > > > Karl schrieb: > > > > Hi All, > > > > Since we are on the subject, I would like to point out that it seems to > > be a curse for a company to build an entirely analog polyphonic synth. > > Oberheim was sold right after the M12/Xpander and years later, Alesis > > was also sold right after the introduction of the A6. I truly hope Dave > > Smith has better luck.(Although he seems up to the task) > > The expense of the hardware / software development seems to outweigh > > the number of units sold. So, if you are lucky enough to have one of > > these vintage beauties, Please take good care of it. > > > > Karl > > > > >
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Re: Synthesiser audio (musician's) feedback as important as technological brilliance? (theory)
2008-08-25 by Karl
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