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Does anyone have any percussive patches they can upload? I ve never been able to make good-sounding percussive patches on the Xpander. I ve heard the MP3 of a

Hi Tony,

On of my favorite things to do: midi up my emu XL7 drum machine to my 
M12 and replace each drum with a patch I write from scratch. It seems 
I have to tweak the drums to get them to sound good together. Try 
using the ramps ( set to Zero ) instead of envelopes, the attack 
sounds faster to me. Use an envelope for the decay or put the ramp 
through a tracking generator.
Also, use a resonated (res set to max) 4PL filter for the bass drum, 
and I promise you the earth will shake. 
On bass and toms, use a ramp or envelope to sweep the frequency 
slightly. This gives the bending drum-head sound.

I still do not have midiOX running on my studio computer (no time) so 
I don't have a way to move ptches yet. 

BTW what ever happened to XevenT? I really liked the concept there.

Karl

--- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Cappellini" <cappy2112@...> 
wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any percussive patches they can upload?
> 
> I've never been able to make good-sounding percussive patches on the
> Xpander.
> I've heard the MP3 of a track which is supposedly done only the 
Xpander/M12,
> that is uploaded in the file section.
> 
> This is a great example that the Xpander/M12 are capable of such 
sounds, but
> the patches themselves are not available.
>

Thanks Karl,.

> On of my favorite things to do: midi up my emu XL7 drum machine to my
> M12 and replace each drum with a patch I write from scratch. It seems
I've never been good at making a patch of a sound that I want.
Randomness is my friend;-)

> I have to tweak the drums to get them to sound good together. Try
> using the ramps ( set to Zero ) instead of envelopes, the attack
> sounds faster to me. Use an envelope for the decay or put the ramp
> through a tracking generator.
How can you use a ramp for attack without using it's decay/ The
start/end times are not adjustable as with envelopes?

I've heard this many times over the years- that the XPander ramps are
faster than the envelopes, but my ear doesn't hear this, probably
because I'm not doing something else correctly with the ramp.

> I still do not have midiOX running on my studio computer (no time) so
Installing & running Midiox takes less timt than tho send this email ;-)
It's not complicated- although the UI could be a little more
convenient to use when sending/receiving patches.

> BTW what ever happened to XevenT? I really liked the concept there.

What do you mean- whatever happened to it?

Hi Tony,

--- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Cappellini" <cappy2112@...> 
wrote:
> I've never been good at making a patch of a sound that I want.
> Randomness is my friend;-)

I have to admit there is big fun in setting up patches that just do 
unexpected things all by themselves.

> I've heard this many times over the years- that the XPander ramps 
> are faster than the envelopes, but my ear doesn't hear this, 
> probably because I'm not doing something else correctly with the 
> ramp.

You know what, your right. I checked with my scope - no difference.
I guess it's a mind game I played on myself. While I was at it, let 
me dispell another myth. It is said that if you modulate an 
envelope's attack rate with the same envelope, you can get a concave 
or convex slope to the envelope. Again checked with scope, and nope, 
attack slope just gets longer (+ modulation) or shorter (-modulation).

> Installing & running Midiox takes less timt than tho send this 
> email ;-)
> It's not complicated- although the UI could be a little more
> convenient to use when sending/receiving patches.

For one, the studio machine (running ME) is not on the net. I have a 
MOTU MTC AV for midi I/O and I don't think I can run the thing with  
VISTA. They barely support PC's for that matter. This means I have 
make a copy and move it over there. 
And two, the studio is just a general mess right now. Anyway, I plan 
to do it soon because I bought some replacement backup batts, and 
will have to get midiOX going to back up my patches.

> What do you mean- whatever happened to it?

Well the last post on the site was in 2000, so I guessed it was 
defunct. I have a lot of self sustaining patches like those demoed
and thought hey, maybe I could get in on this?  

Karl

> > What do you mean- whatever happened to it?
>
> Well the last post on the site was in 2000, so I guessed it was
> defunct. I have a lot of self sustaining patches like those demoed
> and thought hey, maybe I could get in on this?

The Xevents were held by a bunch of Xpnder/M12 owners here in the Bay Area.
I participated in only two of them. Many of those people are still
around, but none seem to be interested in doing it again.
We had some good connections in those days, and it was easy to get
venues without having to put up money.

If you're interested in getting another started, put out some messages
and see who responds.

... That reminds me. I have about 20 or so self-playing patches from the Xevents. I sent them to Randy- I should probably put them in the archives- to see if