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2010-06-26 by jleroux2010
Hi I am a new member to this list. I am looking for the "Matrix-12 Owner's manual Supplement" (scans or PDF) that the Matrix-12 Owner's manual (first edition) mentions on page 21. It is supposed to show all the 59 pages and sub-pages for programming the Matrix-12: a Matrix 12 pages directory... I would like to emulate the Xpander or Matrix-12 programmer for my Matrix-6. Thank you very much.
2010-06-29 by baumont987
Hi, The only official thing I know about pages is the list of pages in the document "OberheimXpanderMidiSpec.zip" in the Files/Documents section, of this group. Could you explain a little bit more what are you trying to emulate, I do not understand clearly your needs. On the Xpander, to change a parameter, you first need to send a page select, and then a parameter change: ex: page select: F0 10 02 0B 20 00 F7 (VCO1, subpage 0) param change: F0 10 02 0A 00 08 00 00 00 63 00 F7 (bottom button...) see the OberheimXpanderMidiSpec doc for details. You don't need to resend a page select for the next param if it is still in the same page/subpage than the previous one. Page/subpage select takes a lot of time to be taken in account by the Xpander. /Greg. --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, "jleroux2010" <jleroux2010@...> wrote:
> > Hi > I am a new member to this list. > > I am looking for the "Matrix-12 Owner's manual Supplement" (scans or PDF) that the Matrix-12 Owner's manual (first edition) mentions on page 21. > > It is supposed to show all the 59 pages and sub-pages for programming the Matrix-12: a Matrix 12 pages directory... > > I would like to emulate the Xpander or Matrix-12 programmer > for my Matrix-6. > > > Thank you very much. >
2010-07-01 by PeWe
Hello ! Does anyone have any info of original brand, type, parts numbers ? Are these available up today or are there replacements to find ? My tech and me, we had it open and measured the switches, but here in germany we have mm/cm,- not inches. It seems, keypad and all the other switches are the same, isn\ufffdt it ? I\ufffdd like to replace all switches in my Xpander. OT.: I also need the switches for my Oberheim XK but have no info. Anyone ? thx in advance PeWe
2010-07-01 by jleroux2010
Hi Greg, it looks like that my reply to this post, earlier today, was not sent or was lost... Here is a simpler version of what I am looking for: On page 21 of the Matrix-12 Owner's manual, there is a reference to a manual called the "Matrix-12 Owner's Manual Supplement". The quote: "...there are a total of 59 Primary pages and related Sub-Pages lurking within the Matrix-12. As a learnig aid, we have listed every one of the 59 Pages' displays in the Matrix-12 Pages Directory". The Xpander manual and the Matrix-12 manual are not showing all the drawings for all the options available for the Xpander or Matrix-12, even if the Matrix-12 manual is more verbose than the Xpander one. What I would like to get is a text file (or a video on Youtube), that would list or show the contents of all the displays (with their column position), the leds' status from the Page Modifier section, etc. For example, pressing the button for VCO1, which leds are ON, which buttons are inactive, what is seen when we use the encoders, etc. Is someone interested? Of course, I would not need to ask all this if I could spend one hour with an Xpander.. I have a project to create a personal standalone programmer (microprocessor based, emulating the Xpander User Interface) to be used with my Matrix-6: I am tired of the membrane switches. Thanks. --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, "baumont987" <geebeex@...> wrote:
> > > > Hi, > > The only official thing I know about pages is the list of pages in the document "OberheimXpanderMidiSpec.zip" in the Files/Documents section, of this group. > Could you explain a little bit more what are you trying to emulate, I do not understand clearly your needs. > > On the Xpander, to change a parameter, you first need to send a page select, and then a parameter change: > ex: > page select: F0 10 02 0B 20 00 F7 (VCO1, subpage 0) > param change: F0 10 02 0A 00 08 00 00 00 63 00 F7 (bottom button...) > > see the OberheimXpanderMidiSpec doc for details. > > You don't need to resend a page select for the next param if it is still in the same page/subpage than the previous one. > Page/subpage select takes a lot of time to be taken in account by the Xpander. > > /Greg. > > > --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, "jleroux2010" <jleroux2010@> wrote: > > > > Hi > > I am a new member to this list. > > > > I am looking for the "Matrix-12 Owner's manual Supplement" (scans or PDF) that the Matrix-12 Owner's manual (first edition) mentions on page 21. > > > > It is supposed to show all the 59 pages and sub-pages for programming the Matrix-12: a Matrix 12 pages directory... > > > > I would like to emulate the Xpander or Matrix-12 programmer > > for my Matrix-6. > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > >
2010-07-01 by WT
To rephrase what another listmember wrote, why do you want the Xpander/Matrix-12 layout of screens ? They are not the same as for the Matrix-6 series. The parameters for the two types doesn\ufffdt match. At all..... WT ----- Original Message ----- From: "jleroux2010" <jleroux2010@...> To: <xpantastic@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 4:37 PM Subject: [xpantastic] Re: Matrix-12 Owner's manual Supplement Hi Greg, it looks like that my reply to this post, earlier today, was not sent or was lost... Here is a simpler version of what I am looking for: On page 21 of the Matrix-12 Owner's manual, there is a reference to a manual called the "Matrix-12 Owner's Manual Supplement". The quote: "...there are a total of 59 Primary pages and related Sub-Pages lurking within the Matrix-12. As a learnig aid, we have listed every one of the 59 Pages' displays in the Matrix-12 Pages Directory". The Xpander manual and the Matrix-12 manual are not showing all the drawings for all the options available for the Xpander or Matrix-12, even if the Matrix-12 manual is more verbose than the Xpander one. What I would like to get is a text file (or a video on Youtube), that would list or show the contents of all the displays (with their column position), the leds' status from the Page Modifier section, etc. For example, pressing the button for VCO1, which leds are ON, which buttons are inactive, what is seen when we use the encoders, etc. Is someone interested? Of course, I would not need to ask all this if I could spend one hour with an Xpander.. I have a project to create a personal standalone programmer (microprocessor based, emulating the Xpander User Interface) to be used with my Matrix-6: I am tired of the membrane switches. Thanks. --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, "baumont987" <geebeex@...> wrote:
> > > > Hi, > > The only official thing I know about pages is the list of pages in the > document "OberheimXpanderMidiSpec.zip" in the Files/Documents section, of > this group. > Could you explain a little bit more what are you trying to emulate, I do > not understand clearly your needs. > > On the Xpander, to change a parameter, you first need to send a page > select, and then a parameter change: > ex: > page select: F0 10 02 0B 20 00 F7 (VCO1, subpage 0) > param change: F0 10 02 0A 00 08 00 00 00 63 00 F7 (bottom button...) > > see the OberheimXpanderMidiSpec doc for details. > > You don't need to resend a page select for the next param if it is still > in the same page/subpage than the previous one. > Page/subpage select takes a lot of time to be taken in account by the > Xpander. > > /Greg. > > > --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, "jleroux2010" <jleroux2010@> wrote: > > > > Hi > > I am a new member to this list. > > > > I am looking for the "Matrix-12 Owner's manual Supplement" (scans or > > PDF) that the Matrix-12 Owner's manual (first edition) mentions on page > > 21. > > > > It is supposed to show all the 59 pages and sub-pages for programming > > the Matrix-12: a Matrix 12 pages directory... > > > > I would like to emulate the Xpander or Matrix-12 programmer > > for my Matrix-6. > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > >
2010-07-01 by jleroux2010
Hi, I know the Matrix-6 and the Xpander series are different beasts. My goal is just to see how the options are organized in those screens, not to copy ALL of them. For example, the Matrix-6 does not have the 15-modes filter, and you must choose a waveform between the saw and the triangle, not like the Xpander where they are available individually. I just need inspiration. Thanks --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, "WT" <waveterm@...> wrote:
> > To rephrase what another listmember wrote, > > why do you want the Xpander/Matrix-12 layout of screens ? They are not the > same as for the Matrix-6 series. > > The parameters for the two types doesn´t match. At all..... > > WT > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jleroux2010" <jleroux2010@...> > To: <xpantastic@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 4:37 PM > Subject: [xpantastic] Re: Matrix-12 Owner's manual Supplement > > > Hi Greg, > > it looks like that my reply to this post, earlier today, was not sent or was > lost... Here is a simpler version of what I am looking for: > > On page 21 of the Matrix-12 Owner's manual, there is a reference to a manual > called the "Matrix-12 Owner's Manual Supplement". > > The quote: "...there are a total of 59 Primary pages and related Sub-Pages > lurking within the Matrix-12. As a learnig aid, we have listed every one of > the 59 Pages' displays in the Matrix-12 Pages Directory". > > The Xpander manual and the Matrix-12 manual are not showing all the drawings > for all the options available for the Xpander or Matrix-12, > even if the Matrix-12 manual is more verbose than the Xpander one. > > What I would like to get is a text file (or a video on Youtube), that would > list or show the contents of all the displays (with their column position), > the leds' status from the Page Modifier section, etc. For example, pressing > the button for VCO1, which leds are ON, > which buttons are inactive, what is seen when we use the encoders, etc. Is > someone interested? > > Of course, I would not need to ask all this if I could spend one hour with > an Xpander.. > > I have a project to create a personal standalone programmer (microprocessor > based, emulating the Xpander User Interface) to be used with my Matrix-6: I > am tired of the membrane switches. > > Thanks. > > --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, "baumont987" <geebeex@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > The only official thing I know about pages is the list of pages in the > > document "OberheimXpanderMidiSpec.zip" in the Files/Documents section, of > > this group. > > Could you explain a little bit more what are you trying to emulate, I do > > not understand clearly your needs. > > > > On the Xpander, to change a parameter, you first need to send a page > > select, and then a parameter change: > > ex: > > page select: F0 10 02 0B 20 00 F7 (VCO1, subpage 0) > > param change: F0 10 02 0A 00 08 00 00 00 63 00 F7 (bottom button...) > > > > see the OberheimXpanderMidiSpec doc for details. > > > > You don't need to resend a page select for the next param if it is still > > in the same page/subpage than the previous one. > > Page/subpage select takes a lot of time to be taken in account by the > > Xpander. > > > > /Greg. > > > > > > --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, "jleroux2010" <jleroux2010@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi > > > I am a new member to this list. > > > > > > I am looking for the "Matrix-12 Owner's manual Supplement" (scans or > > > PDF) that the Matrix-12 Owner's manual (first edition) mentions on page > > > 21. > > > > > > It is supposed to show all the 59 pages and sub-pages for programming > > > the Matrix-12: a Matrix 12 pages directory... > > > > > > I would like to emulate the Xpander or Matrix-12 programmer > > > for my Matrix-6. > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > >
2010-07-01 by WT
Ah ok ! WT ----- Original Message ----- From: "jleroux2010" <jleroux2010@...> To: <xpantastic@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 7:19 PM Subject: [xpantastic] Re: Matrix-12 Owner's manual Supplement Hi, I know the Matrix-6 and the Xpander series are different beasts. My goal is just to see how the options are organized in those screens, not to copy ALL of them. For example, the Matrix-6 does not have the 15-modes filter, and you must choose a waveform between the saw and the triangle, not like the Xpander where they are available individually. I just need inspiration. Thanks --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, "WT" <waveterm@...> wrote:
> > To rephrase what another listmember wrote, > > why do you want the Xpander/Matrix-12 layout of screens ? They are not the > same as for the Matrix-6 series. > > The parameters for the two types doesn\ufffdt match. At all..... > > WT > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jleroux2010" <jleroux2010@...> > To: <xpantastic@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 4:37 PM > Subject: [xpantastic] Re: Matrix-12 Owner's manual Supplement > > > Hi Greg, > > it looks like that my reply to this post, earlier today, was not sent or > was > lost... Here is a simpler version of what I am looking for: > > On page 21 of the Matrix-12 Owner's manual, there is a reference to a > manual > called the "Matrix-12 Owner's Manual Supplement". > > The quote: "...there are a total of 59 Primary pages and related > Sub-Pages > lurking within the Matrix-12. As a learnig aid, we have listed every one > of > the 59 Pages' displays in the Matrix-12 Pages Directory". > > The Xpander manual and the Matrix-12 manual are not showing all the > drawings > for all the options available for the Xpander or Matrix-12, > even if the Matrix-12 manual is more verbose than the Xpander one. > > What I would like to get is a text file (or a video on Youtube), that > would > list or show the contents of all the displays (with their column > position), > the leds' status from the Page Modifier section, etc. For example, > pressing > the button for VCO1, which leds are ON, > which buttons are inactive, what is seen when we use the encoders, etc. Is > someone interested? > > Of course, I would not need to ask all this if I could spend one hour with > an Xpander.. > > I have a project to create a personal standalone programmer > (microprocessor > based, emulating the Xpander User Interface) to be used with my Matrix-6: > I > am tired of the membrane switches. > > Thanks. > > --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, "baumont987" <geebeex@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > The only official thing I know about pages is the list of pages in the > > document "OberheimXpanderMidiSpec.zip" in the Files/Documents section, > > of > > this group. > > Could you explain a little bit more what are you trying to emulate, I do > > not understand clearly your needs. > > > > On the Xpander, to change a parameter, you first need to send a page > > select, and then a parameter change: > > ex: > > page select: F0 10 02 0B 20 00 F7 (VCO1, subpage 0) > > param change: F0 10 02 0A 00 08 00 00 00 63 00 F7 (bottom button...) > > > > see the OberheimXpanderMidiSpec doc for details. > > > > You don't need to resend a page select for the next param if it is still > > in the same page/subpage than the previous one. > > Page/subpage select takes a lot of time to be taken in account by the > > Xpander. > > > > /Greg. > > > > > > --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, "jleroux2010" <jleroux2010@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi > > > I am a new member to this list. > > > > > > I am looking for the "Matrix-12 Owner's manual Supplement" (scans or > > > PDF) that the Matrix-12 Owner's manual (first edition) mentions on > > > page > > > 21. > > > > > > It is supposed to show all the 59 pages and sub-pages for programming > > > the Matrix-12: a Matrix 12 pages directory... > > > > > > I would like to emulate the Xpander or Matrix-12 programmer > > > for my Matrix-6. > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > >
2010-07-02 by baumont987
2010-07-02 by baumont987
2010-07-03 by jleroux2010
Thank you Greg... I will look at that. Actually, I would like to create a clone of the Xpander user interface, but I like the idea of the MidiBox modules.. --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, "baumont987" <geebeex@...> wrote:
> > jleroux2010, > > In addition of my reply, you can find the source code and the front > panel of the Chaos Matrix programmer here: > http://midibox.org/forums/index.php?/topic/13313-chaos-matrix/ > <http://midibox.org/forums/index.php?/topic/13313-chaos-matrix/> > > --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, "jleroux2010" <jleroux2010@> > wrote: > > > > Hi Greg, > > > > it looks like that my reply to this post, earlier today, was not sent > or was lost... Here is a simpler version of what I am looking for: > > > > On page 21 of the Matrix-12 Owner's manual, there is a reference to a > manual called the "Matrix-12 Owner's Manual Supplement". > > > > The quote: "...there are a total of 59 Primary pages and related > Sub-Pages lurking within the Matrix-12. As a learnig aid, we have listed > every one of the 59 Pages' displays in the Matrix-12 Pages Directory". > > > > The Xpander manual and the Matrix-12 manual are not showing all the > drawings for all the options available for the Xpander or Matrix-12, > > even if the Matrix-12 manual is more verbose than the Xpander one. > > > > What I would like to get is a text file (or a video on Youtube), that > would list or show the contents of all the displays (with their column > position), the leds' status from the Page Modifier section, etc. For > example, pressing the button for VCO1, which leds are ON, > > which buttons are inactive, what is seen when we use the encoders, > etc. Is someone interested? > > > > Of course, I would not need to ask all this if I could spend one hour > with an Xpander.. > > > > I have a project to create a personal standalone programmer > (microprocessor based, emulating the Xpander User Interface) to be used > with my Matrix-6: I am tired of the membrane switches. > > > > Thanks. > > > > --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, "baumont987" geebeex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > The only official thing I know about pages is the list of pages in > the document "OberheimXpanderMidiSpec.zip" in the Files/Documents > section, of this group. > > > Could you explain a little bit more what are you trying to emulate, > I do not understand clearly your needs. > > > > > > On the Xpander, to change a parameter, you first need to send a page > select, and then a parameter change: > > > ex: > > > page select: F0 10 02 0B 20 00 F7 (VCO1, subpage 0) > > > param change: F0 10 02 0A 00 08 00 00 00 63 00 F7 (bottom button...) > > > > > > see the OberheimXpanderMidiSpec doc for details. > > > > > > You don't need to resend a page select for the next param if it is > still in the same page/subpage than the previous one. > > > Page/subpage select takes a lot of time to be taken in account by > the Xpander. > > > > > > /Greg. > > > > > > > > > --- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, "jleroux2010" <jleroux2010@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > I am a new member to this list. > > > > > > > > I am looking for the "Matrix-12 Owner's manual Supplement" (scans > or PDF) that the Matrix-12 Owner's manual (first edition) mentions on > page 21. > > > > > > > > It is supposed to show all the 59 pages and sub-pages for > programming the Matrix-12: a Matrix 12 pages directory... > > > > > > > > I would like to emulate the Xpander or Matrix-12 programmer > > > > for my Matrix-6. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > >