Yamaha CS80

Hi,

I'm new to the group and I'm dealing with the rather weighty (pun  
intended) decision to get a CS-80.  With any beast like this, fitting  
it into the right place in the studio is a heavy (OK, I'll stop with  
the puns now) decision.

I'm considering setting the CS-80 on top of a Yamaha CP-70 electric  
grand.  Eddie Jobson had his on top of a CP-70 back in the day but I  
don't know if he had some special stand made for the CP-70 to deal  
with the extra weight.  There is also the issue of making sure that  
there is air circulation underneath the CS-80. I think this can be  
handled by raising the CS up on blocks or angling it a bit forward.   
I'm less concerned about this than I am with just the weight on the  
CP-70.

Does anyone have any experience with putting a CS-80 on a CP-70?  Am I  
crazy to be considering this arrangement?

Thanks,
	Eric

as an owner, i cant imagine having mine on anything other than a stand like the original(im lucky to have the original). itll probably make sense when you get yours-its the most playable synth ive ever had. standing up would really blow, IMO. best of luck.

alt-mode <yahoo@...> wrote:                             Hi,
 
 I'm new to the group and I'm dealing with the rather weighty (pun  
 intended) decision to get a CS-80.  With any beast like this, fitting  
 it into the right place in the studio is a heavy (OK, I'll stop with  
 the puns now) decision.
 
 I'm considering setting the CS-80 on top of a Yamaha CP-70 electric  
 grand.  Eddie Jobson had his on top of a CP-70 back in the day but I  
 don't know if he had some special stand made for the CP-70 to deal  
 with the extra weight.  There is also the issue of making sure that  
 there is air circulation underneath the CS-80. I think this can be  
 handled by raising the CS up on blocks or angling it a bit forward.   
 I'm less concerned about this than I am with just the weight on the  
 CP-70.
 
 Does anyone have any experience with putting a CS-80 on a CP-70?  Am I  
 crazy to be considering this arrangement?
 
 Thanks,
  Eric
 
 
     
                                       

       
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wow.....
I have never played mine sitting down....lol
couldn't imagine it....
-----Original message-----
From: rj krohn r_j_d_2.phila@...
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:36:45 -0700

To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] CS-80 on CP-70?

> as an owner, i cant imagine having mine on anything other than a stand like the original(im lucky to have the original). itll probably make sense when you get yours-its the most playable synth ive ever had. standing up would really blow, IMO. best of luck.
> 
> alt-mode <yahoo@...> wrote:                             Hi,
>  
>  I'm new to the group and I'm dealing with the rather weighty (pun  
>  intended) decision to get a CS-80.  With any beast like this, fitting  
>  it into the right place in the studio is a heavy (OK, I'll stop with  
>  the puns now) decision.
>  
>  I'm considering setting the CS-80 on top of a Yamaha CP-70 electric  
>  grand.  Eddie Jobson had his on top of a CP-70 back in the day but I  
>  don't know if he had some special stand made for the CP-70 to deal  
>  with the extra weight.  There is also the issue of making sure that  
>  there is air circulation underneath the CS-80. I think this can be  
>  handled by raising the CS up on blocks or angling it a bit forward.   
>  I'm less concerned about this than I am with just the weight on the  
>  CP-70.
>  
>  Does anyone have any experience with putting a CS-80 on a CP-70?  Am I  
>  crazy to be considering this arrangement?
>  
>  Thanks,
>   Eric
>  
>  
>      
>                                        
> 
>        
> ---------------------------------
> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  Try it now.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
>

Hi
i own a CS80 and CP80
i wanted to try to put the cs on the top of the cp, but, to me, it was
not nice watching, neither easy to play, since the CS80's case is very
thick, so it'd make the same as putting a case under a synth, on the
top of the piano (for exemple, i think putting a matrix 12 on the top
of the CP is much more nice and practical)
about eddie jobson, well, i remember thinking the same, and while
watching the picture in the booklet of night after night (live in
japan) you could see the stand under is different)
i believe after he had the CS in front of the cp after (with jethro tull)


--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "Laurie Curry" <laurie@...> wrote:
>
> wow.....
> I have never played mine sitting down....lol
> couldn't imagine it....
> -----Original message-----
> From: rj krohn r_j_d_2.phila@...
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:36:45 -0700
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] CS-80 on CP-70?
> 
> > as an owner, i cant imagine having mine on anything other than a
stand like the original(im lucky to have the original). itll probably
make sense when you get yours-its the most playable synth ive ever
had. standing up would really blow, IMO. best of luck.
> > 
> > alt-mode <yahoo@...> wrote:                             Hi,
> >  
> >  I'm new to the group and I'm dealing with the rather weighty (pun  
> >  intended) decision to get a CS-80.  With any beast like this,
fitting  
> >  it into the right place in the studio is a heavy (OK, I'll stop
with  
> >  the puns now) decision.
> >  
> >  I'm considering setting the CS-80 on top of a Yamaha CP-70 electric  
> >  grand.  Eddie Jobson had his on top of a CP-70 back in the day
but I  
> >  don't know if he had some special stand made for the CP-70 to deal  
> >  with the extra weight.  There is also the issue of making sure that  
> >  there is air circulation underneath the CS-80. I think this can be  
> >  handled by raising the CS up on blocks or angling it a bit
forward.   
> >  I'm less concerned about this than I am with just the weight on the  
> >  CP-70.
> >  
> >  Does anyone have any experience with putting a CS-80 on a CP-70?
 Am I  
> >  crazy to be considering this arrangement?
> >  
> >  Thanks,
> >   Eric
> >  
> >  
> >      
> >                                        
> > 
> >        
> > ---------------------------------
> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.
 Try it now.

> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > 
> > 
> >
>

I tried it once or twice when I still had my CP-70, but it did seem 
rather unwieldy. I liked it much better keeping the CS-80 on it's own 
stand, and I also made some custom wooden blocks to get the CS-80 an 
inch or so higher for playing while standing up. Putting the Rhodes 
Chroma on top of the CP-70 was a much better arrangement.

-Tim S.
<Minneapolis, MN>


alt-mode wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
> Does anyone have any experience with putting a CS-80 on a CP-70? Am I
> crazy to be considering this arrangement?
>
>   



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I think this should be no problem for the CP-70 but it could be quite intimidating to look at. Also, you ought to make sure that the ground underneath the CP-70 is *really* solid... I wouldn´t try it on wooden floors...

Stephen

____________________________________________________________________

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: alt-mode 
  To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 4:24 AM
  Subject: [yamahacs80] CS-80 on CP-70?


  Hi,

  I'm new to the group and I'm dealing with the rather weighty (pun 
  intended) decision to get a CS-80. With any beast like this, fitting 
  it into the right place in the studio is a heavy (OK, I'll stop with 
  the puns now) decision.

  I'm considering setting the CS-80 on top of a Yamaha CP-70 electric 
  grand. Eddie Jobson had his on top of a CP-70 back in the day but I 
  don't know if he had some special stand made for the CP-70 to deal 
  with the extra weight. There is also the issue of making sure that 
  there is air circulation underneath the CS-80. I think this can be 
  handled by raising the CS up on blocks or angling it a bit forward. 
  I'm less concerned about this than I am with just the weight on the 
  CP-70.

  Does anyone have any experience with putting a CS-80 on a CP-70? Am I 
  crazy to be considering this arrangement?

  Thanks,
  Eric



   

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Thanks for all of the quick replies.  This is a very active and  
supportive group!

I think my basic question has been answered, that yes it will work as  
long as the floor underneath is stable.    I currently have a Nord  
Modular G2X and an Oberheim Xpander on top of the CP-70 and they work  
pretty well there but I understand that the thickness and overall  
height of the CS can be a bit much.  This may also buy me time to make  
more room in another space in the studio to set the CS on its own.

Thanks again for the input!

	Eric

I have raised my CS80 3 inches on a rolling computer rack.....it makes
the Keys 8 inches lower than my elbows and allows for rack gear below
and boards above on the half lid.......


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-----Original message-----
From: Tim Siefkes timsks@...
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 03:12:48 -0700
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] CS-80 on CP-70?

> I tried it once or twice when I still had my CP-70, but it did seem 
> rather unwieldy. I liked it much better keeping the CS-80 on it's
own 
> stand, and I also made some custom wooden blocks to get the CS-80 an

> inch or so higher for playing while standing up. Putting the Rhodes 
> Chroma on top of the CP-70 was a muchbetter arrangement.
> 
> -Tim S.
> <Minneapolis, MN>
> 
> 
> alt-mode wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have any experience with putting a CS-80 on a CP-70?
Am I
> > crazy to be considering this arrangement?
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 


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I did this for about 5 years when I had both units (I still have the
CP-70).  I just used a double thick bath towel between the two to
prevent scrapes, noises, etc.  It always seemed stable enough on a
carpet-covered concrete floor.

I remember seeing footage of Prince dancing on his CP-70 during a
concert, and while Price probably only weighs half what a CS-80 does
(let's consider the CS-80 as a new unit of weight measurement), the
extra force of the dancing seemed to have no effect.  The CP-70 is
strong!

-Synth80s


> Does anyone have any experience with putting a CS-80 on a CP-70?  Am I
> crazy to be considering this arrangement?

A bit OT but I thought some of you might enjoy seeing this.
It is a PAIA CV keyboard that I took and built a miniature grand  
casing around.
This was done for a community theatre production of YOU'RE A GOOD MAN,  
CHARLEY BROWN,
for Schroeder's piano, of course.
The piano was built to allow a full size man to stand on it.
The synthesizer is fully functional, but it wasnt used that way in the  
show.
I might add gold lettering in front that says SCHULZ just to add a  
touch to it.
Maybe I will use it as a controller and stand for my Paia 4700 Modular.

Here is the link:

http://gallery.mac.com/rorymcd#100015

Enjoy!
Rory McDonald
rorymcd@...

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "Laurie Curry" <laurie@...> wrote:
http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v170/217/125/702632108/n702632108_476321_5133.jpg

I know you've done some beta testing for them, is Sonic Core
considering it?

Hopefully, you are aware, I assembled that picture as a way to explain
away the myth of the inability to fit the control of a CS80 on an ASB
unit...I also took a picture of a Prodyssey next the CS80 preset
"hatch" to show that the 4 mixes of programming sliders on the
original could fit almost twice across a single present ASB
surface....

One of the SonicCore people said they will definately consider it ,and
2 days later they (when I replaced Creamware logos with SonicCore)
said okay,we will start Monday, and quized me on the reason for the
placement of the ribbon and the dual patch memory structures.....

-----Original message-----
From: "oasysfan2" bgarratt@...
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 05:59:04 -0700
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: CS-80 on CP-70?

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "Laurie Curry" wrote:
http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v170/217/125/702632108/n702632108_476321_5133.jpg

I know you've done some beta testing for them, is Sonic Core
considering it?





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I have an Oberheim eight-voice on my CP-70m, which works good. Wouldn't 
put anything heavy on the CP if I didn't have the leg braces though.

Fredrik Segerfalk
www.segerfalk.com
www.analogsweden.com

An Eight Voice? How long are your arms.. or how tall are you, for that matter...?

Stephen (slightly amazed)

____________________________________________________________________

"Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking squealing Gucci little piggy." (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android") 

Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the Past Redux, reissued with three previously unreleased bonus tracks.

It´s out: [´ramp] & markus reuter -- "ceasing to exist", a gorgeous dark ambient album. available through our webshop at www.doombient.com

For info and audio, please visit the official [´ramp] website at www.doombient.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Fredrik Segerfalk 
  To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] CS-80 on CP-70?


  I have an Oberheim eight-voice on my CP-70m, which works good. Wouldn't 
  put anything heavy on the CP if I didn't have the leg braces though.

  Fredrik Segerfalk
  www.segerfalk.com
  www.analogsweden.com



   

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My arms are about 81 cm (32") (each ;) and I'm 1.84 (~6 ft). I don't sit 
down when I twiddle on the expander cabinet ;)

Fredrik Segerfalk
www.segerfalk.com
www.analogsweden.com

Wavecomputer360 wrote:

>
> An Eight Voice? How long are your arms.. or how tall are you, for that 
> matter...?
>
> Stephen (slightly amazed)
>
>
>
>