Yamaha CS80

Help me decide to keep my Yamaha CS-50. Im considering getting the  
midi retrofit and keeping it forever...............but

All this talk here about chips blowing up on CS-60 and CS-80 leads me  
to believe that perhaps Yamaha got it wrong in the engineering of  
these two models
 From the posts here the track record seems as bad as the Roland Juno  
106 voice chip--the question I ask is it all worth it if each time you  
turn on the machine
you worry about a chip failure?

On the other hand the CS-50 does not seem as flawed in the engineering  
side as the CS-60 or CS-80 looking at the posts
Have I got this right about the CS-50 ? Its not an engineering failure  
like the CS-60 and CS-80

thanks in advance
David

http://www.myspace.com/jointhecarcrashset

there is no engineering flaw in a mid 70s instrument that still works.

the only flaw was the dicontinuing of the chips..

.many companies will rise and fall within that similar time period...

I have had many disposable synths that came and went while this
remained...

-----Original message-----
From: David d2ba@...
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:50:02 -0600
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [yamahacs80] Should I keep my CS-50

> Help me decide to keep my Yamaha CS-50. Im considering getting the 
> midi retrofit and keeping it forever...............but
> 
> All this talk here about chips blowing up on CS-60 and CS-80 leads
me 
> to believe that perhaps Yamaha got it wrong in the engineering of 
> these two models
> From the posts here the track record seems as bad as the Roland Juno

> 106 voice chip--the question I ask is it all worth it if each time
you 
> turn on the machine
> you worry about a chip failure?
> 
> On the other hand the CS-50 does not seem as flawed in the
engineering 
> side as the CS-60 or CS-80 looking at the posts
> Have I got this right about the CS-50 ? Its not an engineering
failure 
> like the CS-60 and CS-80
> 
> thanks in advance
> David
> 
> http://www.myspace.com/jointhecarcrashset
> 
> 


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The CS50 is a good compromise in terms of usability and manteinance; Laurie is pretty right in this concern: the total number of sold CS polyphonics has to face the fact that many of the small units were used as spare parts for the big CS80 or the CS60 so there aren't many left; in any case if you keep the instrument in a good shape, meaning with it a dirt free, constant moistness and temperature room, keeping also the contacts clean , with an eye to the PSU and, if avaliable, a current stabilizer if you live in an old building, your CS-50 will last forever.
M

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David 
  To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:50 PM
  Subject: [yamahacs80] Should I keep my CS-50


  Help me decide to keep my Yamaha CS-50. Im considering getting the 
  midi retrofit and keeping it forever...............but

  All this talk here about chips blowing up on CS-60 and CS-80 leads me 
  to believe that perhaps Yamaha got it wrong in the engineering of 
  these two models
  From the posts here the track record seems as bad as the Roland Juno 
  106 voice chip--the question I ask is it all worth it if each time you 
  turn on the machine
  you worry about a chip failure?

  On the other hand the CS-50 does not seem as flawed in the engineering 
  side as the CS-60 or CS-80 looking at the posts
  Have I got this right about the CS-50 ? Its not an engineering failure 
  like the CS-60 and CS-80

  thanks in advance
  David

  http://www.myspace.com/jointhecarcrashset

  

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The fact that the CS50 is the least fancy of the bunch makes it the most reliable. So if it´s working well and gets maintained on a regular basis, keep it. Otherwise sell it to someone who might need it as an organ-donor (I´d get myself a 50 in an instant if I had the chance to buy one locally).

Stephen

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David 
  To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:50 PM
  Subject: [yamahacs80] Should I keep my CS-50


  Help me decide to keep my Yamaha CS-50. Im considering getting the 
  midi retrofit and keeping it forever...............but

  All this talk here about chips blowing up on CS-60 and CS-80 leads me 
  to believe that perhaps Yamaha got it wrong in the engineering of 
  these two models
  From the posts here the track record seems as bad as the Roland Juno 
  106 voice chip--the question I ask is it all worth it if each time you 
  turn on the machine
  you worry about a chip failure?

  On the other hand the CS-50 does not seem as flawed in the engineering 
  side as the CS-60 or CS-80 looking at the posts
  Have I got this right about the CS-50 ? Its not an engineering failure 
  like the CS-60 and CS-80

  thanks in advance
  David

  http://www.myspace.com/jointhecarcrashset


  

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Thanks Stephen
What maintainence is required apart from changing PSU tantalium caps  
every 15 years or so?
On 17/03/2009, at 10:58 PM, Wavecomputer360 wrote:

> The fact that the CS50 is the least fancy of the bunch makes it the  
> most reliable. So if it´s working well and gets maintained on a  
> regular basis, keep it. Otherwise sell it to someone who might need  
> it as an organ-donor (I´d get myself a 50 in an instant if I had the  
> chance to buy one locally).
>
> Stephen
>
> __________________________________________________________
>
> "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking squealing Gucci little  
> piggy." (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android")
>
> Stephen Parsick live in concert: Bochum Planetarium (Germany), 13th  
> of December, 2008, 08:00 pm.
>
> Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the Past Redux,  
> reissued with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. For more  
> info please check www.parsick.com
>
> For legal downloads please check:
>
> http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=296&title=Stephen 
> +Parsick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:50 PM
> Subject: [yamahacs80] Should I keep my CS-50
>
> Help me decide to keep my Yamaha CS-50. Im considering getting the
> midi retrofit and keeping it forever...............but
>
> All this talk here about chips blowing up on CS-60 and CS-80 leads me
> to believe that perhaps Yamaha got it wrong in the engineering of
> these two models
> From the posts here the track record seems as bad as the Roland Juno
> 106 voice chip--the question I ask is it all worth it if each time you
> turn on the machine
> you worry about a chip failure?
>
> On the other hand the CS-50 does not seem as flawed in the engineering
> side as the CS-60 or CS-80 looking at the posts
> Have I got this right about the CS-50 ? Its not an engineering failure
> like the CS-60 and CS-80
>
> thanks in advance
> David
>
> http://www.myspace.com/jointhecarcrashset
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> 



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Keep your CS-50, David!!

MIDI or no MIDI, the CS-50 is a wonderful instrument in its own right.

Yamaha's chips don't seem to be any more or any else reliable than any 
other manufacturer's.

The problem with the CS-80 (and to a much lesser extent the CS-60) is the 
sheer number of components inside the device. Even if the chance of any one 
component failing is very small, on the CS-80 the mean time between 
failures is shorter because there are so many more chances for something to 
go wrong. More rolls of the dice, if you will.

On Mar 16 2009, David wrote:

>Help me decide to keep my Yamaha CS-50. Im considering getting the  
>midi retrofit and keeping it forever...............but
>
>All this talk here about chips blowing up on CS-60 and CS-80 leads me  
>to believe that perhaps Yamaha got it wrong in the engineering of  
>these two models
> From the posts here the track record seems as bad as the Roland Juno  
>106 voice chip--the question I ask is it all worth it if each time you  
>turn on the machine
>you worry about a chip failure?
>
>On the other hand the CS-50 does not seem as flawed in the engineering  
>side as the CS-60 or CS-80 looking at the posts
>Have I got this right about the CS-50 ? Its not an engineering failure  
>like the CS-60 and CS-80
>
>thanks in advance
>David
>
>http://www.myspace.com/jointhecarcrashset
>

However..... the good thing about your CS80/60/50s are, you can
service them.....

Todays synths are not like that...you would be looking for entire
modules or entire synths on a chip to replace....from a Technicians
view point.....you can keep it alive as long as you can diagnose
problems, and find those special chips...

-----Original message-----
From: Richard Atkinson rga24@...
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:25:47 -0600
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Should I keep my CS-50

Keep your CS-50, David!!

MIDI or no MIDI, the CS-50 is a wonderful instrument in its own right.

Yamaha's chips don't seem to be any more or any else reliable than any

other manufacturer's.

The problem with the CS-80 (and to a much lesser extent the CS-60) is
the 
sheer number of components inside the device. Even if the chance of
any one 
component failing is very small, on the CS-80 the meantime between 
failures is shorter because there are so many more chances for
something to 
go wrong. More rolls of the dice, if you will.


On Mar 16 2009, David wrote:

>Help me decide to keep my Yamaha CS-50. Im considering getting the 
>midi retrofit and keeping it forever...............but
>
>All this talk here about chips blowing up on CS-60 and CS-80 leads me

>to believe that perhaps Yamaha got it wrong in the engineering of 
>these two models
> From the posts here the track record seems as bad as the Roland Juno

>106 voice chip--the question I ask is it all worth it if each time
you 
>turn on the machine
>you worry about a chip failure?
>
>On the other hand the CS-50 does not seem as flawed in the
engineering 
>side as the CS-60 or CS-80 looking at the posts
>Have I got this right about the CS-50 ? Its not an engineering
failure 
>like the CS-60 and CS-80
>
>thanks in advance
>David
>
>http://www.myspace.com/jointhecarcrashset
>





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