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R: overall schematic vs. individual board schematics - Re: [yamahacs80] Preset T boards map

R: overall schematic vs. individual board schematics - Re: [yamahacs80] Preset T boards map

2011-03-15 by faxiomas@virgilio.it

Hi David
I'll make a comparative by tracing the resistors, these mistakes suck big time! I wouldn't find myself in trouble while in need to change anything in the T-boards area; suffice to say I found oddities like voltage 0V in correspondance with FUNKY3 LPF's cutoff, along with several differences in envelope timings, both with filter and volume envelopes; besides, I found mistakes even in the big diagram, for example I found a feedback track in the BBD which isn't in another version of the diagram (latter is the right one)!M




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> 	Max Fazio <mailto:faxiomas@virgilio.it>

> March 14, 2011 4:07 PM

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> Hi everybody: I'm in need of a tech who can address me to some which I 

> believe to be mistakes inside the service manual; mostly I'm trying to 

> catch the parameters for some of the presets by reading the resistance 

> values on the diagrams but I get lost when comparing some of the 

> parameters set in the "T" boards, from 51 to 54; the BRASSes for 

> example look completely different in the diagrams and feel far from 

> their audio counterparts, in facts their envelope times seem much 

> slower than on an actual machine; some other doubts I have when 

> comparing BASS, ORGANs etc. Now my friend Patrice compiled a table of 

> voltages representing the parameters ; does anybody have a correct 

> diagram with the exact values avaliable so I can compare them?

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------



Max,



I don't know about this particular case, but I've found that every time 

I've seen an error in the CS80 schematic pages, the giant, fold-out 

schematic was correct!  Try checking that.



David



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Follow up Re: overall schematic vs. individual board schematics - Re: [yamahacs80] Preset T boards map

2011-03-15 by Max Fazio

Hi David
Made some comparatives but no differences...looks weird though; how can I trace them?
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  From: faxiomas@virgilio.it 
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  Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:01 AM
  Subject: R: overall schematic vs. individual board schematics - Re: [yamahacs80] Preset T boards map


    
  Hi David
  I'll make a comparative by tracing the resistors, these mistakes suck big time! I wouldn't find myself in trouble while in need to change anything in the T-boards area; suffice to say I found oddities like voltage 0V in correspondance with FUNKY3 LPF's cutoff, along with several differences in envelope timings, both with filter and volume envelopes; besides, I found mistakes even in the big diagram, for example I found a feedback track in the BBD which isn't in another version of the diagram (latter is the right one)!M

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  Data: 15-mar-2011 2.45

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  Ogg: overall schematic vs. individual board schematics - Re: [yamahacs80] Preset T boards map

  ----Messaggio originale----

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  Data: 15-mar-2011 2.45

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  > Max Fazio <mailto:faxiomas@virgilio.it>

  > March 14, 2011 4:07 PM

  >

  >

  > Hi everybody: I'm in need of a tech who can address me to some which I 

  > believe to be mistakes inside the service manual; mostly I'm trying to 

  > catch the parameters for some of the presets by reading the resistance 

  > values on the diagrams but I get lost when comparing some of the 

  > parameters set in the "T" boards, from 51 to 54; the BRASSes for 

  > example look completely different in the diagrams and feel far from 

  > their audio counterparts, in facts their envelope times seem much 

  > slower than on an actual machine; some other doubts I have when 

  > comparing BASS, ORGANs etc. Now my friend Patrice compiled a table of 

  > voltages representing the parameters ; does anybody have a correct 

  > diagram with the exact values avaliable so I can compare them?

  >

  > ----------------------------------------------------------

  Max,

  I don't know about this particular case, but I've found that every time 

  I've seen an error in the CS80 schematic pages, the giant, fold-out 

  schematic was correct! Try checking that.

  David

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