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Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-04 by Mike

I sent Steve Kondel $40 or something and marked it as a gift instead of goods (he insisted I mark it as a gift because he was terrified of the paypal fees - I know, stupid) and have still not received a master tune potentiometer when he is only one state away.  I sent him his money on the 18th of last month.  I called him on May 26 and he told me that he would get it in the mail on the next day USPS was open.  

-Mike

Re: [yamahacs80] Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-04 by Fernando Zarone

I got what I asked for after 15 days (to Italy)
All excellent items, excellent packing.
Not too friendly as to the invoice, indeed.  I paid a huge amount of $$$ as customs taxes...  :-(

F


Il giorno 04/giu/2011, alle ore 23.16, Mike ha scritto:

> I sent Steve Kondel $40 or something and marked it as a gift instead of goods (he insisted I mark it as a gift because he was terrified of the paypal fees - I know, stupid) and have still not received a master tune potentiometer when he is only one state away. I sent him his money on the 18th of last month. I called him on May 26 and he told me that he would get it in the mail on the next day USPS was open. 
> 
> -Mike
> 
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Re: [yamahacs80] Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-04 by dzlvs8@yahoo.com

Sorry about the customs $$$.  In order to insure the package I had to put a  
high price on the declared value.
Steve
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From: Fernando Zarone <fernandozarone@...>
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Jun 4, 2011 21:25:28 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@...  
and not received their stuff?

I got what I asked for after 15 days (to Italy)
All excellent items, excellent packing.
Not too friendly as to the invoice, indeed.  I paid a huge amount of $$$ as  
customs taxes...  :-(

F


Il giorno 04/giu/2011, alle ore 23.16, Mike ha scritto:

> I sent Steve Kondel $40 or something and marked it as a gift instead of  
goods (he insisted I mark it as a gift because he was terrified of the  
paypal fees - I know, stupid) and have still not received a master tune  
potentiometer when he is only one state away. I sent him his money on the  
18th of last month. I called him on May 26 and he told me that he would get  
it in the mail on the next day USPS was open. 
> 
> -Mike
> 
> 



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Re: [yamahacs80] Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-05 by Fernando Zarone

Unfortunately, I had to pay 109 euros (159 USD) more.
...


Il giorno 05/giu/2011, alle ore 00.51, dzlvs8@... ha scritto:

> Sorry about the customs $$$. In order to insure the package I had to put a 
> high price on the declared value.
> Steve
> 
> -----Original message-----
> From: Fernando Zarone <fernandozarone@...>
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, Jun 4, 2011 21:25:28 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@... 
> and not received their stuff?
> 
> I got what I asked for after 15 days (to Italy)
> All excellent items, excellent packing.
> Not too friendly as to the invoice, indeed. I paid a huge amount of $$$ as 
> customs taxes... :-(
> 
> F
> 
> Il giorno 04/giu/2011, alle ore 23.16, Mike ha scritto:
> 
> > I sent Steve Kondel $40 or something and marked it as a gift instead of 
> goods (he insisted I mark it as a gift because he was terrified of the 
> paypal fees - I know, stupid) and have still not received a master tune 
> potentiometer when he is only one state away. I sent him his money on the 
> 18th of last month. I called him on May 26 and he told me that he would get 
> it in the mail on the next day USPS was open. 
> > 
> > -Mike
> > 
> > 
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Re: [yamahacs80] Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-05 by dzlvs8@yahoo.com

yeah, well the package has to be insured.  Im willing to help people out as  
much as possible.  I wouldnt complain about not being able to do illegal  
things.  If you think I would ship $650 worth of CS parts across the world  
without insuring it, thats nuts.
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From: Fernando Zarone <fernandozarone@...>
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Jun 5, 2011 06:30:43 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@...  
and not received their stuff?

Unfortunately, I had to pay 109 euros (159 USD) more.
...


Il giorno 05/giu/2011, alle ore 00.51, dzlvs8@... ha scritto:

> Sorry about the customs $$$. In order to insure the package I had to put a  

> high price on the declared value.
> Steve
> 
> -----Original message-----
> From: Fernando Zarone <fernandozarone@...>
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, Jun 4, 2011 21:25:28 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@... 
> and not received their stuff?
> 
> I got what I asked for after 15 days (to Italy)
> All excellent items, excellent packing.
> Not too friendly as to the invoice, indeed. I paid a huge amount of $$$ as  

> customs taxes... :-(
> 
> F
> 
> Il giorno 04/giu/2011, alle ore 23.16, Mike ha scritto:
> 
> > I sent Steve Kondel $40 or something and marked it as a gift instead of 
> goods (he insisted I mark it as a gift because he was terrified of the 
> paypal fees - I know, stupid) and have still not received a master tune 
> potentiometer when he is only one state away. I sent him his money on the 
> 18th of last month. I called him on May 26 and he told me that he would  
get 
> it in the mail on the next day USPS was open. 
> > 
> > -Mike
> > 
> > 
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Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-05 by Quazimodo

This has been a point I have thought over long and hard ever since I was also stung by UK customs on something I thought an unfair and excessive charge. OK, you can buy CS parts and have them shipped - and by their very nature you would want them insured as they are rare and costly - BUT... is there no loop-hole, such as if the item is deemed 'broken' (like a box full of spares 'legally' could be) then no (or very little) tax needs to be paid?

Just a thought..
Cheers,
TOM




--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "dzlvs8@..." <dzlvs8@...> wrote:
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> yeah, well the package has to be insured.  Im willing to help people out as  
> much as possible.  I wouldnt complain about not being able to do illegal  
> things.  If you think I would ship $650 worth of CS parts across the world  
> without insuring it, thats nuts.
>

Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-05 by Wavecomputer360

You might want to declare them as "computer component parts". To my knowledge (which is little) you do not have to pay customs duties or import taxes for these items.

Stephen
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  From: Quazimodo 
  To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:37 AM
  Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@... and not received their stuff?


    
  This has been a point I have thought over long and hard ever since I was also stung by UK customs on something I thought an unfair and excessive charge. OK, you can buy CS parts and have them shipped - and by their very nature you would want them insured as they are rare and costly - BUT... is there no loop-hole, such as if the item is deemed 'broken' (like a box full of spares 'legally' could be) then no (or very little) tax needs to be paid?

  Just a thought..
  Cheers,
  TOM

  --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "dzlvs8@..." <dzlvs8@...> wrote:
  >
  > yeah, well the package has to be insured. Im willing to help people out as 
  > much as possible. I wouldnt complain about not being able to do illegal 
  > things. If you think I would ship $650 worth of CS parts across the world 
  > without insuring it, thats nuts.
  > 



  


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RE: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-05 by Colin f

> This has been a point I have thought over long and hard ever 
> since I was also stung by UK customs on something I thought 
> an unfair and excessive charge.

If you think you're being stung on imported goods, consider that you pay 20%
on top of virutally everything you buy inside the UK.
People only seem to get upset about VAT when they are aware of it.
If you buy an item for £100, it's really only cost you £83, and uk.gov get
£17 for allowing you to spend the money you already paid income tax on.
The only thing you can do legally about 'unfair and excessive' taxation, is
to get into politics, win power, and pursue a drastic reduction in state
spending.
Good luck with that !

> OK, you can buy CS parts and 
> have them shipped - and by their very nature you would want 
> them insured as they are rare and costly - BUT... is there no 
> loop-hole, such as if the item is deemed 'broken' (like a box 
> full of spares 'legally' could be) then no (or very little) 
> tax needs to be paid?

There is no loophole.
If goods are being imported into the EU for the first time, they are liable
for VAT (and possibly duty) based on their monetary value.
If you can persuade a seller to declare a lower value than they're worth,
you will save on the VAT/duty, but there is no benefit to the seller, and
they take a risk of being found to be involved in tax evasion if it turns
out the goods were worth more. It seems innocuous to under-value a few old
synth parts, but there are many scams and frauds attempted through
import/export that HMRC are always on the lookout for, and they take a dim
view of any illegal activity. It's just not worth the trouble for a small
business to get on their radar.

Cheers,
Colin f

Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-06 by Laurie Curry

ship them as Faulty audio accesories.... that is the cheap way for customs
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From: Quazimodo <noddyspuncture@...>
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Date: 06/05/2011 04:38
Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@... and not received their stuff?

   
This has been a point I have thought over long and hard ever since I was also stung by UK customs on something I thought an unfair and excessive charge. OK, you can buy CS parts and have them shipped - and by their very nature you would want them insured as they are rare and costly - BUT... is there no loop-hole, such as if the item is deemed 'broken' (like a box full of spares 'legally' could be) then no (or very little) tax needs to be paid? 

Just a thought.. 
Cheers, 
TOM 

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "dzlvs8@..." <dzlvs8@...> wrote: 
> 
> yeah, well the package has to be insured. Im willing to help people out as 
> much as possible. I wouldnt complain about not being able to do illegal 
> things. If you think I would ship $650 worth of CS parts across the world 
> without insuring it, thats nuts. 
> 








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Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-06 by dzlvs8@yahoo.com

aaaand then how do I insure them for their value and convince the shipping  
company that the "faulty" audio accessories were broke during transit.
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From: Laurie Curry <laurie@...>
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Jun 6, 2011 01:49:03 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to  
dzlvs8@... and not received their stuff?


ship them as Faulty audio accesories.... that is the cheap way for customs

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Quazimodo <noddyspuncture@...>
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Date: 06/05/2011 04:38
Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@...  
and not received their stuff?

   
This has been a point I have thought over long and hard ever since I was  
also stung by UK customs on something I thought an unfair and excessive  
charge. OK, you can buy CS parts and have them shipped - and by their very  
nature you would want them insured as they are rare and costly - BUT... is  
there no loop-hole, such as if the item is deemed 'broken' (like a box full  
of spares 'legally' could be) then no (or very little) tax needs to be paid?  


Just a thought.. 
Cheers, 
TOM 

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "dzlvs8@..." <dzlvs8@...> wrote: 
> 
> yeah, well the package has to be insured. Im willing to help people out as  

> much as possible. I wouldnt complain about not being able to do illegal 
> things. If you think I would ship $650 worth of CS parts across the world 
> without insuring it, thats nuts. 
> 








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Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-06 by Nigel Cruickshank

My policy is that it's up to the buyer to choose to insure their goods or not. 

Obviously they are waiving any indemnity if the goods arrive damaged or not at all.  In the past I have requested that the value of an item be listed on a customs declaration as much lower to avoid taxes but know that I am also taking a big risk not insuring the item, & I have done the same for buyers of my gear. That's just the way it is.




On 06/06/2011, at 12:26 PM, dzlvs8@... wrote:

> aaaand then how do I insure them for their value and convince the shipping 
> company that the "faulty" audio accessories were broke during transit.
> 
> -----Original message-----
> From: Laurie Curry <laurie@...>
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Jun 6, 2011 01:49:03 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to 
> dzlvs8@... and not received their stuff?
> 
> ship them as Faulty audio accesories.... that is the cheap way for customs
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quazimodo <noddyspuncture@hotmail.com>
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 06/05/2011 04:38
> Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@... 
> and not received their stuff?
> 
> This has been a point I have thought over long and hard ever since I was 
> also stung by UK customs on something I thought an unfair and excessive 
> charge. OK, you can buy CS parts and have them shipped - and by their very 
> nature you would want them insured as they are rare and costly - BUT... is 
> there no loop-hole, such as if the item is deemed 'broken' (like a box full 
> of spares 'legally' could be) then no (or very little) tax needs to be paid? 
> 
> Just a thought.. 
> Cheers, 
> TOM 
> 
> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "dzlvs8@..." <dzlvs8@...> wrote: 
> > 
> > yeah, well the package has to be insured. Im willing to help people out as 
> 
> > much as possible. I wouldnt complain about not being able to do illegal 
> > things. If you think I would ship $650 worth of CS parts across the world 
> > without insuring it, thats nuts. 
> > 
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Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-06 by dzlvs8@yahoo.com

FYI Niegel, I think ur the same Niegel that bought one of my voice cards on  
ebay.  Ebay and paypals policy is thst it is the sellers responsibility to  
get the item to the buyer in the condition described.  If it was up to the  
buyer to pay shipping, I would be able to sell my non working Korg Polysix  
as new and in working condition and not have to worry about anything once it  
arrived with the buyer not as described.
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From: Nigel Cruickshank <nigelc@...>
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Jun 6, 2011 02:44:06 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to  
dzlvs8@... and not received their stuff?

My policy is that it's up to the buyer to choose to insure their goods or  
not. 

Obviously they are waiving any indemnity if the goods arrive damaged or not  
at all.  In the past I have requested that the value of an item be listed on  
a customs declaration as much lower to avoid taxes but know that I am also  
taking a big risk not insuring the item, & I have done the same for buyers  
of my gear. That's just the way it is.




On 06/06/2011, at 12:26 PM, dzlvs8@... wrote:

> aaaand then how do I insure them for their value and convince the shipping  

> company that the "faulty" audio accessories were broke during transit.
> 
> -----Original message-----
> From: Laurie Curry <laurie@...>
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Jun 6, 2011 01:49:03 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to 
> dzlvs8@... and not received their stuff?
> 
> ship them as Faulty audio accesories.... that is the cheap way for customs
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quazimodo <noddyspuncture@...>
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 06/05/2011 04:38
> Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@... 
> and not received their stuff?
> 
> This has been a point I have thought over long and hard ever since I was 
> also stung by UK customs on something I thought an unfair and excessive 
> charge. OK, you can buy CS parts and have them shipped - and by their very  

> nature you would want them insured as they are rare and costly - BUT... is  

> there no loop-hole, such as if the item is deemed 'broken' (like a box  
full 
> of spares 'legally' could be) then no (or very little) tax needs to be  
paid? 
> 
> Just a thought.. 
> Cheers, 
> TOM 
> 
> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "dzlvs8@..." <dzlvs8@...> wrote: 
> > 
> > yeah, well the package has to be insured. Im willing to help people out  
as 
> 
> > much as possible. I wouldnt complain about not being able to do illegal 
> > things. If you think I would ship $650 worth of CS parts across the  
world 
> > without insuring it, thats nuts. 
> > 
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Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-06 by blchrr@homecall.co.uk

Yup, i agree with what nigel said, thats my way of thinking too. 

One caveat though, ebay is a murky place, often as a seller i find buyers 
will not want to pay for any shipping insurance and tell you that its ok to 
ship without insurance.
Of course the problem with that is that if the package gets lost, or the 
item arrives broken, the buyer will more than likely file a paypal claim
against me for a full refund and Paypal will almost certainly take the 
buyers side regardless of the fact that insurance was not requested / paid 
for....
Ive not been burnt like that yet, but it is a concern. I do pretty much 
insist that any large parcel i send going overseas is posted with fedex or 
ups though, with tracking and proof of delivery- and i always pack gear up 
really carefully to avoid any rough handling. 

Btw, i shipped my Cs80 from the US seller to the UK, declared as $50 broken 
keyboard ;)
(that was about 5 years ago though- im not sure id risk that again)
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> My policy is that it's up to the buyer to choose to insure their goods or not.  
> 
> Obviously they are waiving any indemnity if the goods arrive damaged or not at all.  In the past I have requested that the value of an item be listed on a customs declaration as much lower to avoid taxes but know that I am also taking a big risk not insuring the item, & I have done the same for buyers of my gear. That's just the way it is. 
> 
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> On 06/06/2011, at 12:26 PM, dzlvs8@... wrote: 
> 
>> aaaand then how do I insure them for their value and convince the shipping 
>> company that the "faulty" audio accessories were broke during transit. 
>> 
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: Laurie Curry <laurie@...>
>> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Mon, Jun 6, 2011 01:49:03 GMT+00:00
>> Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to 
>> dzlvs8@... and not received their stuff? 
>> 
>> ship them as Faulty audio accesories.... that is the cheap way for customs 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Quazimodo <noddyspuncture@...>
>> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: 06/05/2011 04:38
>> Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@... 
>> and not received their stuff? 
>> 
>> This has been a point I have thought over long and hard ever since I was 
>> also stung by UK customs on something I thought an unfair and excessive 
>> charge. OK, you can buy CS parts and have them shipped - and by their very 
>> nature you would want them insured as they are rare and costly - BUT... is 
>> there no loop-hole, such as if the item is deemed 'broken' (like a box full 
>> of spares 'legally' could be) then no (or very little) tax needs to be paid?  
>> 
>> Just a thought.. 
>> Cheers, 
>> TOM  
>> 
>> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "dzlvs8@..." <dzlvs8@...> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > yeah, well the package has to be insured. Im willing to help people out as  
>> 
>> > much as possible. I wouldnt complain about not being able to do illegal 
>> > things. If you think I would ship $650 worth of CS parts across the world 
>> > without insuring it, thats nuts. 
>> >  
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Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-06 by dzlvs8@yahoo.com

On a side note, I am selling the rest of my CS50 for $425 (including  
shipping in the US) on ebay.  It doesnt include the voice cards, kas board,  
or pra board, but pretty much everything else is there....if anyone needs  
some spare parts.  Im getting sick of looking at a destroyed cs in my house.  
 Its depressing.  I just want the rest gone.
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From: blchrr@...
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Jun 6, 2011 09:26:40 GMT+00:00
Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@...  
and not  received their stuff?

Yup, i agree with what nigel said, thats my way of thinking too. 

One caveat though, ebay is a murky place, often as a seller i find buyers 
will not want to pay for any shipping insurance and tell you that its ok to 
ship without insurance.
Of course the problem with that is that if the package gets lost, or the 
item arrives broken, the buyer will more than likely file a paypal claim
against me for a full refund and Paypal will almost certainly take the 
buyers side regardless of the fact that insurance was not requested / paid 
for....
Ive not been burnt like that yet, but it is a concern. I do pretty much 
insist that any large parcel i send going overseas is posted with fedex or 
ups though, with tracking and proof of delivery- and i always pack gear up 
really carefully to avoid any rough handling. 

Btw, i shipped my Cs80 from the US seller to the UK, declared as $50 broken 
keyboard ;)
(that was about 5 years ago though- im not sure id risk that again) 

> My policy is that it's up to the buyer to choose to insure their goods or  
not.  
> 
> Obviously they are waiving any indemnity if the goods arrive damaged or  
not at all.  In the past I have requested that the value of an item be  
listed on a customs declaration as much lower to avoid taxes but know that I  
am also taking a big risk not insuring the item, & I have done the same for  
buyers of my gear. That's just the way it is. 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> On 06/06/2011, at 12:26 PM, dzlvs8@... wrote: 
> 
>> aaaand then how do I insu



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Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-06 by mborish_2000

Steve,

Is there any particular reason why you won't address me or ship my stuff? Where is my stuff?   

If anybody cares, here is an e-mail he sent me that starkly contrasts the professional demeanor he is trying to project in this thread.

-Mike

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Mon, May 16, 2011 6:37:39 PM

Hi Mike,

I can sell the double pots forthe tunning.  If you live in the US I can sell them to you for $40, including shipping.  If you need the tunning knobs too that would be extra.  


In regards to the KAS board, thats the one thing that kind of isnt available for sale.  The KAS board is in need of IC24 (its in the lower right hand corner of the board.  I shorted it out a few weeks ago while I was replacing all of the other IC's on the board.  I tested all the new ICs in my other CS50 after the zapping incident and they all still worked fine.  I then took my entire working KAS board out of my good CS50 and put it in the CS50 that I just zapped and the CS50 was working perfectly.  

My plan was to upgrade the CS50 with new ICs and then sell it so I could use the money as part of a down payment on my new Cadillac CTS.  I dont really have the time and dont want to spend the effort to figure out what IC24 is and I dont want to spend the time to replace it since i can part this think out for way more than I can sell it for anyway.  


Soooo, hopefully you get the drift.  If you would like the KAS board, I will sell it to you.  But you do need to replace IC24.  That is all you should have to replace.  All the resistors near by are all still fine and all the other chips tested out good.  I can sell you the KAS board for cheap since it requires repair.  I will sell you the KAS board for $150.


If you are interested, you can send the money to my paypal account.  It is dzlvs8@....  However, you have to send the money as a gift or send me some extra money to cover the paypal fees.  Another guy sent me $670 for some of the CS50 parts and he didnt send it as a gift and paypal took $28 of the money he sent me.  Therefore, I never saw the actual $670. >:(


If you send me some money, let me know.  Or if you want to talk live, give me a call.

Thanks,

Steve Kondel

810-931-0725


--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "dzlvs8@..." <dzlvs8@...> wrote:
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> On a side note, I am selling the rest of my CS50 for $425 (including  
> shipping in the US) on ebay.  It doesnt include the voice cards, kas board,  
> or pra board, but pretty much everything else is there....if anyone needs  
> some spare parts.  Im getting sick of looking at a destroyed cs in my house.  
>  Its depressing.  I just want the rest gone.
> 
> -----Original message-----
> From: blchrr@...
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Jun 6, 2011 09:26:40 GMT+00:00
> Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@...  
> and not  received their stuff?
> 
> Yup, i agree with what nigel said, thats my way of thinking too. 
> 
> One caveat though, ebay is a murky place, often as a seller i find buyers 
> will not want to pay for any shipping insurance and tell you that its ok to 
> ship without insurance.
> Of course the problem with that is that if the package gets lost, or the 
> item arrives broken, the buyer will more than likely file a paypal claim
> against me for a full refund and Paypal will almost certainly take the 
> buyers side regardless of the fact that insurance was not requested / paid 
> for....
> Ive not been burnt like that yet, but it is a concern. I do pretty much 
> insist that any large parcel i send going overseas is posted with fedex or 
> ups though, with tracking and proof of delivery- and i always pack gear up 
> really carefully to avoid any rough handling. 
> 
> Btw, i shipped my Cs80 from the US seller to the UK, declared as $50 broken 
> keyboard ;)
> (that was about 5 years ago though- im not sure id risk that again) 
> 
> > My policy is that it's up to the buyer to choose to insure their goods or  
> not.  
> > 
> > Obviously they are waiving any indemnity if the goods arrive damaged or  
> not at all.  In the past I have requested that the value of an item be  
> listed on a customs declaration as much lower to avoid taxes but know that I  
> am also taking a big risk not insuring the item, & I have done the same for  
> buyers of my gear. That's just the way it is. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > On 06/06/2011, at 12:26 PM, dzlvs8@... wrote: 
> > 
> >> aaaand then how do I insu
> 
> 
> 
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>

Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-06 by dzlvs8@yahoo.com

Mike, I talked to you on the phone Thursday night and said that I should  
probably get your stuff in the mail on Saturday.  Well, that didnt happen.  
It doesnt loom like Im getting out of work anytime soon inorder to get to  
the post office tonight either.  Like I said, I will send you an email when  
i get a tracking number.
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From: mborish_2000 <mborish_2000@...>
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Jun 6, 2011 19:24:45 GMT+00:00
Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@...  
and not  received their stuff?

Steve,

Is there any particular reason why you won't address me or ship my stuff?  
Where is my stuff?   

If anybody cares, here is an e-mail he sent me that starkly contrasts the  
professional demeanor he is trying to project in this thread.

-Mike

---

Mon, May 16, 2011 6:37:39 PM

Hi Mike,

I can sell the double pots forthe tunning.  If you live in the US I can sell  
them to you for $40, including shipping.  If you need the tunning knobs too  
that would be extra.  


In regards to the KAS board, thats the one thing that kind of isnt available  
for sale.  The KAS board is in need of IC24 (its in the lower right hand  
corner of the board.  I shorted it out a few weeks ago while I was replacing  
all of the other IC's on the board.  I tested all the new ICs in my other  
CS50 after the zapping incident and they all still worked fine.  I then took  
my entire working KAS board out of my good CS50 and put it in the CS50 that  
I just zapped and the CS50 was working perfectly.  

My plan was to upgrade the CS50 with new ICs and then sell it so I could use  
the money as part of a down payment on my new Cadillac CTS.  I dont really  
have the time and dont want to spend the effort to figure out what IC24 is  
and I dont want to spend the time to replace it since i can part this think  
out for way more than I can sell it for anyway.  


Soooo, hopefully you get the drift.  If you would like the KAS board, I will  
sell it to you.  But you do need to repl



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Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-06 by dzlvs8@yahoo.com

Im sorry to lead anyone into believing that I was trying to conduct myself  
in a professional manner in a forum about synthesizers.  I totally am not  
trying to be professional.  Im not really sure what conveyed that!  lol
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-----Original message-----
From: mborish_2000 <mborish_2000@...>
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Jun 6, 2011 19:24:45 GMT+00:00
Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@...  
and not  received their stuff?

Steve,

Is there any particular reason why you won't address me or ship my stuff?  
Where is my stuff?   

If anybody cares, here is an e-mail he sent me that starkly contrasts the  
professional demeanor he is trying to project in this thread.

-Mike

---

Mon, May 16, 2011 6:37:39 PM

Hi Mike,

I can sell the double pots forthe tunning.  If you live in the US I can sell  
them to you for $40, including shipping.  If you need the tunning knobs too  
that would be extra.  


In regards to the KAS board, thats the one thing that kind of isnt available  
for sale.  The KAS board is in need of IC24 (its in the lower right hand  
corner of the board.  I shorted it out a few weeks ago while I was replacing  
all of the other IC's on the board.  I tested all the new ICs in my other  
CS50 after the zapping incident and they all still worked fine.  I then took  
my entire working KAS board out of my good CS50 and put it in the CS50 that  
I just zapped and the CS50 was working perfectly.  

My plan was to upgrade the CS50 with new ICs and then sell it so I could use  
the money as part of a down payment on my new Cadillac CTS.  I dont really  
have the time and dont want to spend the effort to figure out what IC24 is  
and I dont want to spend the time to replace it since i can part this think  
out for way more than I can sell it for anyway.  


Soooo, hopefully you get the drift.  If you would like the KAS board, I will  
sell it to you.  But you do need to repl



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Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-06 by dzlvs8@yahoo.com

Hmm, one of.my ywo previous emails disapeared into the abyss and never made  
it back to the group.  Anyway, I spoke with Mike on Thursday, and said I  
should have his stuff in the mail in the next couple days.    Here is your  
tracking number so you can watch your go across the country or something.    
I just got the tracking number today, two minutes ago.  I hope that doesnt  
upset you too.
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-----Original message-----
From: mborish_2000 <mborish_2000@...>
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Jun 6, 2011 19:24:45 GMT+00:00
Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@...  
and not  received their stuff?

Steve,

Is there any particular reason why you won't address me or ship my stuff?  
Where is my stuff?   

If anybody cares, here is an e-mail he sent me that starkly contrasts the  
professional demeanor he is trying to project in this thread.

-Mike

---

Mon, May 16, 2011 6:37:39 PM

Hi Mike,

I can sell the double pots forthe tunning.  If you live in the US I can sell  
them to you for $40, including shipping.  If you need the tunning knobs too  
that would be extra.  


In regards to the KAS board, thats the one thing that kind of isnt available  
for sale.  The KAS board is in need of IC24 (its in the lower right hand  
corner of the board.  I shorted it out a few weeks ago while I was replacing  
all of the other IC's on the board.  I tested all the new ICs in my other  
CS50 after the zapping incident and they all still worked fine.  I then took  
my entire working KAS board out of my good CS50 and put it in the CS50 that  
I just zapped and the CS50 was working perfectly.  

My plan was to upgrade the CS50 with new ICs and then sell it so I could use  
the money as part of a down payment on my new Cadillac CTS.  I dont really  
have the time and dont want to spend the effort to figure out what IC24 is  
and I dont want to spend the time to replace it since i can part this think  
out for way more than I can sell it for anyway.  


Soooo, hopefully you get the drift.  If you would like the KAS board, I will  
sell it to you.  But you do need to repl



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Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-07 by Mike

Professionals actually ship stuff when people pay them.  

Since you're having trouble with details, I called you and begged you to send me my stuff so I could complete a CS60 on Thursday the 26th of May (not last week like your post implies) after I paid you on the 17th of May!

May 17, 2011 	  	Payment For 	
Steve Kondel
	Completed 	Details Payment For Steve Kondel 2JS24253EF636621D 	  	-$45.00 	$0.00 	-$45.00 USD

-Mike

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "dzlvs8@..." <dzlvs8@...> wrote:
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>
> Im sorry to lead anyone into believing that I was trying to conduct myself  
> in a professional manner in a forum about synthesizers.  I totally am not  
> trying to be professional.  Im not really sure what conveyed that!  lol
> 
> -----Original message-----
> From: mborish_2000 <mborish_2000@...>
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Jun 6, 2011 19:24:45 GMT+00:00
> Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@...  
> and not  received their stuff?
> 
> Steve,
> 
> Is there any particular reason why you won't address me or ship my stuff?  
> Where is my stuff?   
> 
> If anybody cares, here is an e-mail he sent me that starkly contrasts the  
> professional demeanor he is trying to project in this thread.
> 
> -Mike
> 
> ---
> 
> Mon, May 16, 2011 6:37:39 PM
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> I can sell the double pots forthe tunning.  If you live in the US I can sell  
> them to you for $40, including shipping.  If you need the tunning knobs too  
> that would be extra.  
> 
> 
> In regards to the KAS board, thats the one thing that kind of isnt available  
> for sale.  The KAS board is in need of IC24 (its in the lower right hand  
> corner of the board.  I shorted it out a few weeks ago while I was replacing  
> all of the other IC's on the board.  I tested all the new ICs in my other  
> CS50 after the zapping incident and they all still worked fine.  I then took  
> my entire working KAS board out of my good CS50 and put it in the CS50 that  
> I just zapped and the CS50 was working perfectly.  
> 
> My plan was to upgrade the CS50 with new ICs and then sell it so I could use  
> the money as part of a down payment on my new Cadillac CTS.  I dont really  
> have the time and dont want to spend the effort to figure out what IC24 is  
> and I dont want to spend the time to replace it since i can part this think  
> out for way more than I can sell it for anyway.  
> 
> 
> Soooo, hopefully you get the drift.  If you would like the KAS board, I will  
> sell it to you.  But you do need to repl
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

ok - enough: Re: Has anybody else sent money to

2011-06-07 by David

Mike and Steve and anyone else - this group is not the place for people to argue over business deals.  One or two posts to ask the group about getting in touch with people is fine, but this is too much.

Any more of this and I'll just start deleting posts and change people's posting status to require moderator approval.

Thanks,

 David - who is way too busy with other stuff to worry about this

Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-07 by synthparts

Hi Mike, I have the dual tune pot and if you need any other CS parts just let me know. I know I've shipped you parts before. 

Doug 
synthparts.com
--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mborish_2000@...> wrote:
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>
> I sent Steve Kondel $40 or something and marked it as a gift instead of goods (he insisted I mark it as a gift because he was terrified of the paypal fees - I know, stupid) and have still not received a master tune potentiometer when he is only one state away.  I sent him his money on the 18th of last month.  I called him on May 26 and he told me that he would get it in the mail on the next day USPS was open.  
> 
> -Mike
>

Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@yahoo.com and not received their stuff?

2011-06-08 by dzlvs8@yahoo.com

Doug, On a side note, I think you may have bought a broken polysix from me  
before.  I either sold it to you or the synth spa.  Cant remember.  Well,  
yet again I bought another polysix and this one also has battery leakage  
like the last one and this one doesnt work.  If you are interested in it,  
let me know.
Steve
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-----Original message-----
From: synthparts <synthparts@...>
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Jun 7, 2011 23:40:32 GMT+00:00
Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: Has anybody else sent money to dzlvs8@...  
and not received their stuff?

Hi Mike, I have the dual tune pot and if you need any other CS parts just  
let me know. I know I've shipped you parts before. 

Doug 
synthparts.com
--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mborish_2000@...> wrote:
>
> I sent Steve Kondel $40 or something and marked it as a gift instead of  
goods (he insisted I mark it as a gift because he was terrified of the  
paypal fees - I know, stupid) and have still not received a master tune  
potentiometer when he is only one state away.  I sent him his money on the  
18th of last month.  I called him on May 26 and he told me that he would get  
it in the mail on the next day USPS was open.  
> 
> -Mike
>





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[yamahacs80] FT: PRA board for KBC

2011-06-12 by Fernando Zarone

I trade a working PRA Board for a KBC board. 
Anyone interested? 
I shall not sell it for money, just swap it for other boards I need...


Fernando

[yamahacs80] CS80 VCF Adjustment

2011-06-21 by Fernando Zarone

As to the VCF adjustment procedure reported by Yamaha for the CS-80, I have some considerations / questions for those who already faced such a task.

1) In HPF cutoff freq & resonance adj:  I guess the waveform indicated in the specifications of complete VCF alignment procedure is wrong! IMHO the right one should be the one drawn in the chapter "specifications of VCF alignment when only some of VCF ICs are changed", in that a pure sinusoidal wave can only be obtained when adjusting the LPF.  Am I wrong?

2) As regards the diagram amplitude, the values of  4.3 ± 1Vpp for HPF  and 2.2 ± 1Vpp, respectively, are reported. My question: was it meant to be really  ± 1Vpp  or  ± .1Vpp ?

Any help appreciated: I think it is important for all list members who want to afford such a problem!

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