[sdiy] breadboard

[Happy Harry]

Then go the next distance as a diy'er

Get some reading glasses. I got mine for $1.00 at the
local er... dollar store.

So buy two pair, one for home and one for work. It can
eliminate a lot of eyestrain in "senior" diy members.

I can, of course... do the IC leads at this point from
feel (and blurry feedback...) alone... but seeing the
results is still nice.

H^) harry


>From: CCartCat at aol.com
>To: synth-diy at dropmix.xs4all.nl
>Subject: Re: [sdiy] breadboard
>Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:09:12 EDT
>
>Um, thanks for the breadboard/non-breadboard advice.  Harry, you preachin' 
>to
>the choir since a good friend who got me doing DIY (an EE) got me on the
>whole vector board/T-42 path.
>
>As for the breadboard, it is tempting for simple
>throwittogethergeeisthiscircuitgonnasuck? projects like those weird TAB 
>book
>circuits someone alluded to several threads back.  Plus, as I soldered bus
>wire to the tabs of an IC socket, I began to feel like a blind jeweler ("is
>that really a solder bridge or are my eyes just crossing?).
>
>In the context of the previous OT thread that originated this one, I was
>approaching this mail list as a sort of cool cultural product/example of
>international cooperation.  I wasn't complaining about soldering so much as
>trying to kid self-deprecatingly about how I read about synth building but 
>do
>little else.  It's a comment about who I am and why I lurk around here 
>rather
>than a problem to be solved per se.
>
>Concretely, I've built a few LFOs for a VC panner, a couple PAIA kits (the
>Gator and the Tube Head), plenty of fuzzboxes (couple kits, one or two of 
>the
>Craig Anderton designs from scratch prob. using vector board etc.), a 
>simple
>2-chip Theremin (the schemo came from an issue of Experimental Musical
>Instruments), the Etherwave kit (which is mostly built 'cept for wiring the
>pots, body construction), a -10 to +4 dB (?) converter.  But this much was
>done over a 5 or 6 year period ending about 2 or more years ago when I 
>began
>to read here (a coincidence).  I just decided I had lot of stuff as it is 
>and
>was maybe more of a consumer/user than a builder or hacker/modder/bender.
>(And continued to lurk here anyway, learning from the LDR threads sometime
>back and dabbling in that with the VC inputs of a Korg X911.  Also close to
>but not quite in SDIY land, I learned from the Piezo mic and Slinky Tech
>threads.)
>
>In the time I have build music electronic stuff, the only other 
>construction
>method I've played with is using those small prefab Rad Shack boards.  A
>place for a IC in the middle, copper traces radiating from there for other
>components.  Dunno how that sets with folks in regards to good layout, but 
>as
>you'd imagine, fairly simple circuits centered around 1 or 2 opamps go onto
>these boards.
>
>Anyway, for solid info on Synth construction or for the less tangible but
>positive vibe (yes, in spite of DD and other BS), SDIY is a great list.
>
>Almost back to lurking,
>Kevin
>
>
>
>In a message dated 9/12/01 9:45:11 PM, you wrote:
>
><<Great... back on topic at last !!!
>
>I respectfully submit that "solderless breadboards" are not such
>a good idea.  Often the intermittant connections, unwanted capacitance
>and other parasitic effects will run you in circles longer than if you had
>used
>a reasonable breadboard (soldered) technique.
>
>I use unclad perf board (vector board) with T-42 push in terminals... and
>when I'm done (unless it gets too big...) it can go right from the 
>development
>bench into a box to be used on the road for the next twenty years... which
>the solderless breadboard cannot do.
>
>OTOH those terminals cost $.04 each... in thousands. But they allow as much
>re-soldering as you can stand... perfect for trying out new values.
>If you leave the leads a little long you can reuse components just as 
>easily.
>
>H^) harry
>
>
>
>matti wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 CCartCat at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > I am a simple lurker, a very occasional builder of a LFO, fuzz box,
>whatever.
> > >  And kinda out of my depth here in Synth DIY.
> > >
> > > More in love with possibility than with actual soldering, I come here
>anyway
> > > to read and soak in the intelligence and resourcefulness of the
>participating
> > > members.
> >
> > Try using solderless breadboard, if you find issue with what you seem to
> > be finding issue with. Much easier to work with, imho.
> >
> > -
> > finland red
> > germany black
> > egypt white
> >>
>


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