The Yamaha AN1x Synthesizer mailing list

In a message dated 22/7/02 2:58:09 pm, jondl_2000@... writes:

>If you enjoy using VSTi's I'd recommend Native Instruments 
>Absynth and/or FM7 
>http://www.native-instruments.net/index.php?home_us The 
>demo for FM7 was a little "buggy" but I believe there have been a 
>pair of updates to FM7 addressing those issues. Not bad 
>considering how slow NI is with updates. Absynth is incredible 
>and will only get better in time, I'm certain.
>
Yeah I'd agree with you there Jon- Another total bargain is "CellSynth"- only 
$95- It's a reaktor-like monosynth- (I should add, only for the Mac at 
present). It's very stable, it's shareware, it's fuckin' incredible!!- If you 
don't already know.

www.cellsynth.co.uk

The FM7 is of course availible on both platforms- and like absynth it's got a 
sound of it's own- (although I've only played with the demo)......Could it 
replace the AN1x????

Tom :-)

--- In AN1x-list@y..., terryfunken@a... wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 22/7/02 2:58:09 pm, jondl_2000@y... 
writes:
> 
> >If you enjoy using VSTi's I'd recommend Native Instruments 
> >Absynth and/or FM7 
> >http://www.native-instruments.net/index.php?home_us The 
> >demo for FM7 was a little "buggy" but I believe there have 
been a 
> >pair of updates to FM7 addressing those issues. Not bad 
> >considering how slow NI is with updates. Absynth is 
incredible 
> >and will only get better in time, I'm certain.
> >
> Yeah I'd agree with you there Jon- Another total bargain is 
"CellSynth"- only 
> $95- It's a reaktor-like monosynth- (I should add, only for the 
Mac at 
> present). It's very stable, it's shareware, it's fuckin' incredible!!- 
If you 
> don't already know.
> 
> www.cellsynth.co.uk
> 

I have not yet tried CellSynth I'm sorry to say. Must put it on the list 
of things to do.

Have you tried iSynth yet? http://www.eowave.com/index2.htm 
Another one I haven't made my way around to.

I've been really happy with the latest freeware from BigTick - 
Cheeeze Synth and TickyClav - along with the Emagic ES1 I 
bought in June. Plus, I have some new Sample CDs so I'm not 
hurting for new sounds ;-)

> The FM7 is of course availible on both platforms- and like 
absynth it's got a 
> sound of it's own- (although I've only played with the 
demo)......Could it 
> replace the AN1x????
> 

I don't feel Absynth (now cross platform too) would make a good 
replacement for 'imitation analog' such as the AN1x. If you're in 
the market for MW XT/Wavestation/K5000/FIZMO type of 
weirdness then Absynth is an excellent addition but not as a total 
substitute for something else. The next update is *suppose* to 
be out in about a month but I'll believe it when I see it, ya know? 
;-)

Jon

From: "phonophobie" <sidstation@...>

> i thought about the yamaha fs1r, but i am not realy sure if this is
> the right one for me.. it seams to be very hard to programm sound on
> it ( testing it would be nice )- somebody here owns one?

FM is basically hard to program. There's not much you can do about that. The
FS1r has the added disadvantage that it's a *really* deep and complex synth.
Then again, there are loads of specific FS1r patches to be had, and loads of
loads of DX7 patches that you can use as well.

The FS1r is a very unique synth, standing out in today's muddle of virtual
analogue and sample-based synths.

> about this nova/virus/waldorf synth - i think the synth architecture
> will not make happy. isn\ufffdt it just like a an1x , maybee better?

Opinions will vary on which one is better (a bit like "apples are better
than oranges", really), but feature-wise they all outperform the AN1x.
Especially the Virus is much loved, and would be my investment if I weren't
more interested in styling my car. :)

> i really would like to know something more about the physical
> modeling synth.....

Physical modelling is nice, but it has it's limitations. Usually, you have a
rather limited polyphony. The sound you get is phenomenal, but to get a
realistic sounding saxophone (to name a popular example), you need a wind
controller like a Yamaha WX5.

If you're really interested in physical modelling, soft synths are your best
bet at the moment. The last hardware effort was the Yamaha EX5, and that
wasn't a very successful one (I know, I have one :) ). There was the Korg
Z1 - very nice, but arguably not as good as Yamaha's VL technology - and you
can get the Yamaha VL70m, and some plug-in boards from Yamaha and for Korg's
Triton series. None of this technology is younger than five years.

To answer your original question, it really depends on what you're looking
for. Do you want lots of polyphony? Lots of programmability? Unique sounds?

- Peter

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Peter Korsten" <peterk@m...> wrote:

> Then again, there are loads of specific FS1r patches to be had, and 
loads of
> loads of DX7 patches that you can use as well.

The FM-7 softsynth really is nice sounding.... it may make a good 
alternative. 
 
> > about this nova/virus/waldorf synth - i think the synth 
architecture
> > will not make happy. isn´t it just like a an1x , maybee better?
> Opinions will vary on which one is better (a bit like "apples are 
better
> than oranges", really), but feature-wise they all outperform the 
AN1x.
> Especially the Virus is much loved, and would be my investment if I 
weren't
> more interested in styling my car. :)

LOL! At least you have interests other than synths!  What kind of 
car? What are you doing to it? ;-)

I've never been fond of programming the AN1x using the hardware 
interface. The software editor helps, but since adding the Nova and 
Virus b to the studio I have not done any AN1x programming. The other 
two synths are so much more fun to work with (IMHO). 

Each of the synths has it's own unique sounds. The AN1x is very 
unique and I really like hearing it used in a track. It's a special 
sound. The same goes for the Virus b. It has it's own sound that you 
can often pick out in a mix. They seem to have personalities in the 
same way the vintage analogs did.

The Nova is a little less unique that way (but I still love it). The 
Waldorf XT also has a very unique set of sounds. If you are not 
looking for another VA then it may be very interesting to you. 
 
> The last hardware effort was the Yamaha EX5, and that
> wasn't a very successful one (I know, I have one :) ). 

Hey..... watch it! The EX5 is not what it was advertised to be, but 
it has it's own special personality (and sound) and one of the best 
user support groups available for any synth. ;-)

By the way Jon.... Musicians Friend finally shipped the last 100 OB-
12s today. I look forward to that cool interface. It's been a long 
wait.

Sayer

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Peter Korsten" <peterk@m...> wrote:
If you're really interested in physical modelling, soft synths are 
your best
> bet at the moment

what soft synth synth do you mean is good for physical modeling?
-phono






> From: "phonophobie" <sidstation@h...>
> 
> > i thought about the yamaha fs1r, but i am not realy sure if this 
is
> > the right one for me.. it seams to be very hard to programm sound 
on
> > it ( testing it would be nice )- somebody here owns one?
> 
> FM is basically hard to program. There's not much you can do about 
that. The
> FS1r has the added disadvantage that it's a *really* deep and 
complex synth.
> Then again, there are loads of specific FS1r patches to be had, and 
loads of
> loads of DX7 patches that you can use as well.
> 
> The FS1r is a very unique synth, standing out in today's muddle of 
virtual
> analogue and sample-based synths.
> 
> > about this nova/virus/waldorf synth - i think the synth 
architecture
> > will not make happy. isn´t it just like a an1x , maybee better?
> 
> Opinions will vary on which one is better (a bit like "apples are 
better
> than oranges", really), but feature-wise they all outperform the 
AN1x.
> Especially the Virus is much loved, and would be my investment if I 
weren't
> more interested in styling my car. :)
> 
> > i really would like to know something more about the physical
> > modeling synth.....
> 
> Physical modelling is nice, but it has it's limitations. Usually, 
you have a
> rather limited polyphony. The sound you get is phenomenal, but to 
get a
> realistic sounding saxophone (to name a popular example), you need a 
wind
> controller like a Yamaha WX5.
> 
> If you're really interested in physical modelling, soft synths are 
your best
> bet at the moment. The last hardware effort was the Yamaha EX5, and 
that
> wasn't a very successful one (I know, I have one :) ). There was the 
Korg
> Z1 - very nice, but arguably not as good as Yamaha's VL technology - 
and you
> can get the Yamaha VL70m, and some plug-in boards from Yamaha and 
for Korg's
> Triton series. None of this technology is younger than five years.
> 
> To answer your original question, it really depends on what you're 
looking
> for. Do you want lots of polyphony? Lots of programmability? Unique

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "sayersmusic" <Sayer@S...> wrote:
> --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Peter Korsten" <peterk@m...> wrote:
> 
> > Then again, there are loads of specific FS1r patches to be 
had, and 
> loads of
> > loads of DX7 patches that you can use as well.
> 
> The FM-7 softsynth really is nice sounding.... it may make a 
good 
> alternative. 
>  

Agreed. It's scary how many DX series patchesare available on 
the 'net - and FM7 will read the SysEx for just about every DX 
instrument Yamaha made. But what really gets my goat is all the 
cool enhancements to the Envelopes and Sync options that 
made it into FM7 that Absynth should have in the next update. 
The Mac -> Win port and overhaul of Absynth was a necessary 
evil but I'm ready for that update ;-)

> 
> By the way Jon.... Musicians Friend finally shipped the last 100 
OB-
> 12s today. I look forward to that cool interface. It's been a long 
> wait.
> 

Very cool. We'll have to make a listening party at your studio 
soon! ha ha ha :-)

Jon

From: "sayersmusic" <Sayer@...>

> --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Peter Korsten" <peterk@m...> wrote:
>
> > Especially the Virus is much loved, and would be my investment if I
> > weren't
> > more interested in styling my car. :)
>
> LOL! At least you have interests other than synths!  What kind of
> car? What are you doing to it? ;-)

Little things, and I'm still looking around. I just ordered the service and
repair manual from Amazon UK. Changing the colour of the side indicators,
some optical styling, that sort of thing.

Interestingly enough, this car can have a "software upgrade" that let's you
get some extra power from the engine. I wonder if the on-board computer has
a few spare cycles to play nice, relaxing background music. :)

The car, incidentally, is a Renault Sc\ufffdnic. It's a family car, with standard
connection points for child seats, a little refrigerator for three cans, and
a comfort level that rivals your sofa. And yet, it can be made to look
pretty sporty. As long as I don't have to put in those child seats. :)

Oddly enough, I would never even customise one of my synthesisers.

- Peter

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "jondl_2000" <jondl_2000@y...> wrote:
 
> Very cool. We'll have to make a listening party at your studio 
> soon! ha ha ha :-)

No problem! I'll supply the beer.. but, you have to inform my wife 
about it!  ;-)

Kidding aside.... lets do have a hands-on listening party at my 
studio.... That would be fun! 

Sayer

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "sayersmusic" <Sayer@S...> wrote:
> --- In AN1x-list@y..., "jondl_2000" <jondl_2000@y...> wrote:
>  
> > Very cool. We'll have to make a listening party at your studio 
> > soon! ha ha ha :-)
> 
> No problem! I'll supply the beer.. but, you have to inform my 
wife 
> about it!  ;-)
> 

I 'll get right on that - just as soon as I check in with MY wife ;-)

> Kidding aside.... lets do have a hands-on listening party at my 
> studio.... That would be fun! 
> 
> Sayer

I'm all for it.

Jon

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----- Original Message -----

From: "jondl_2000" <jondl_2000@...>
To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 10:39 AM
Subject: [AN1x] Re: OTHER SYNTH


> --- In AN1x-list@y..., "sayersmusic" <Sayer@S...> wrote:
> > --- In AN1x-list@y..., "jondl_2000" <jondl_2000@y...> wrote:
> >
> > > Very cool. We'll have to make a listening party at your studio
> > > soon! ha ha ha :-)
> >
> > No problem! I'll supply the beer.. but, you have to inform my
> wife
> > about it!  ;-)
> >
>
> I 'll get right on that - just as soon as I check in with MY wife ;-)
>
> > Kidding aside.... lets do have a hands-on listening party at my
> > studio.... That would be fun!
> >
> > Sayer
>
> I'm all for it.
>
> Jon
>
>
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> > --- In AN1x-list@y..., "jondl_2000" <jondl_2000@y...> wrote:
> > Very cool. We'll have to make a listening party at your studio 
> > soon! ha ha ha :-)
>
> --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Ed Edwards" <edward.edwards@v...> wrote:
> Here Here!  The Ayes have it!

Ok, I ran it by the wife and it's only going to cost me new wooden 
blinds in the kitchen and family rooms.  :-)

So, we'll have to work out a date and time... Will need to keep it to 
only a few people, but it should be fun!  

No spanking of keyboards or cats allowed!!!!   ;-)

Sayer