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2006-01-14 by bjork011963
I was just wondering if anyone had had any luck programming the synth sounds used by Seal on his song,"Crazy" and the Who songs, "Won't get fooled again" and "Teenage Wasteland". I've tried with no success but feel that this great instrument should be able to get those sounds. Thanks,Scott
2006-01-15 by uralmoto2001
The(Alesis)Ion has a preset called "Won't Get Fooled". Basically
it's 3 shaped sine waves, octave shift 0,+1,+2; into a vocal formant
filter and a 4pole lowpass filter in parallel. Lfo1 square mods amp
env sustain level, and lfo2 sine mods both filters' freq. If you have
a preset close to an organ sound, start with that, then mod the VCA
with an lfo square wave of about 4.5hz. Actually, I think the original
Who "Won't Get Fooled" was done on an organ; I can get real close to
the same sound by simply playing it on my CX-3. I think "Teenage
Wasteland" (and "Baba O'Riley") was originally done using an Arp2500
step sequencer... I haven't tried programming either one of
those...
---
Steve
--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "bjork011963" <bjork01@c...> wrote:
>
> I was just wondering if anyone had had any luck programming the
synth
> sounds used by Seal on his song,"Crazy" and the Who songs, "Won't
get
> fooled again" and "Teenage Wasteland". I've tried with no success
but > feel that this great instrument should be able to get those sounds. > Thanks,Scott >
2006-01-15 by Ed Edwards
"Teenage Wasteland" (actually named Baba O'Riley) has a lot of references if you Google it. There is an audio interview with Pete Townsend somewhere out there where he reveals the entire process. Don't forget to listen carefully, Townsend is moving around a lot on the keyboard -- this is not just a simple hold down the keys and let the arpeggiator play it song. Google kindly provided this excellent site: http://www.wbtracks.co.uk/synths.htm Here's a snip: I\ufffdd always thought this was programmed into Pete\ufffds huge modular ARP 2500 synth/sequencer. It certainly sounds like it could have been! It\ufffds hard to believe that the sound we hear on Baba O\ufffdRiley is really a Lowrey home organ. The model Pete used was a TBO-1, but for anyone wishing to recreate Baba O\ufffd Riley, just pick one up the following models to do the same job: TLO, DSO, TLS, TSO 25 and HR and GAK (seems to be the nearest). Pete is using a setting called \ufffdmarimba repeat.\ufffd <SNIP> ... go on and read the rest yourself. Also download the audio demo of the banjo repeat on the Lowery - amazing stuff for 40 year old technology. eee - Edward Edwards http://www.ezekielswheel.com http://www.untiedmusic.com/ezekiel
> -----Original Message----- > From: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com]On > Behalf Of bjork011963 > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:25 PM > To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AN1x] Crazy Who sounds > > > I was just wondering if anyone had had any luck programming the synth > sounds used by Seal on his song,"Crazy" and the Who songs, "Won't get > fooled again" and "Teenage Wasteland". I've tried with no success but > feel that this great instrument should be able to get those sounds. > Thanks,Scott > > > > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: AN1x-list-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: AN1x-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: AN1x-list-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list > > The AN1x Control Synthesizer FAQ:: > http://www.geocities.com/jondl_2000/an1x_faq/an1x_faq_toc.htm > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2006-01-15 by Scott Murrell
Thanks a lot for the post and I had always called it Baba O'Riley before but now that he's entered the "no-spin zone" or is that Bill O'Reilly I didn't want to call it that anymore. :) I had no idea it was actually done on a home organ, that's interesting and maybe gives me a little better insight into how to program that sound knowing that it's a repeating banjo part. That song and "Won't get fooled again" are two of my favorite songs by the Who and I think if I can get those synth type sounds down correctly they'll go over when we play. Once again,thanks a lot for your post. It helps....Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Edwards
To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:08 PM
Subject: RE: [AN1x] Crazy Who sounds
"Teenage Wasteland" (actually named Baba O'Riley) has a lot of references if you
Google it. There is an audio interview with Pete Townsend somewhere out there
where he reveals the entire process. Don't forget to listen carefully, Townsend
is moving around a lot on the keyboard -- this is not just a simple hold down
the keys and let the arpeggiator play it song.
Google kindly provided this excellent site:
http://www.wbtracks.co.uk/synths.htm
Here's a snip:
I'd always thought this was programmed into Pete's huge modular ARP 2500
synth/sequencer. It certainly sounds like it could have been! It's hard to
believe that the sound we hear on Baba O'Riley is really a Lowrey home organ.
The model Pete used was a TBO-1, but for anyone wishing to recreate Baba O'
Riley, just pick one up the following models to do the same job: TLO, DSO, TLS,
TSO 25 and HR and GAK (seems to be the nearest). Pete is using a setting called
"marimba repeat." <SNIP>
... go on and read the rest yourself. Also download the audio demo of the banjo
repeat on the Lowery - amazing stuff for 40 year old technology.
eee - Edward Edwards
http://www.ezekielswheel.com
http://www.untiedmusic.com/ezekiel
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-01-15 by uralmoto2001
Yeah, it figures that "Baba O'Riley" was also played on the organ.
Funny; there's a quote from Pete Townshend on the back of the Arp2500
owners' manual where he says how suitable it is for stage work. Makes
me wonder how often they used it on stage. I had forgotten that
there's also an Ion preset called "Baba O'Riley". Very similar
to "Won't Get Fooled" in that an lfo square wave is used to mod VCA.
The key to this Ion patch though is that it uses key poly reset for
the lfo; I think the an1x only has key mono reset. May be another way
to get the same effect
though. -
--
Steve
--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Edwards" <edward.edwards@v...>
wrote:
>
> "Teenage Wasteland" (actually named Baba O'Riley) has a lot of
references if you
> Google it. There is an audio interview with Pete Townsend
somewhere out there
> where he reveals the entire process. Don't forget to listen
carefully, Townsend
> is moving around a lot on the keyboard -- this is not just a simple
hold down
> the keys and let the arpeggiator play it song.
>
> Google kindly provided this excellent site:
> http://www.wbtracks.co.uk/synths.htm
>
> Here's a snip:
> I'd always thought this was programmed into Pete's huge modular ARP
2500
> synth/sequencer. It certainly sounds like it could have been! It's
hard to
> believe that the sound we hear on Baba O'Riley is really a Lowrey
home organ.
> The model Pete used was a TBO-1, but for anyone wishing to recreate
Baba O'
> Riley, just pick one up the following models to do the same job:
TLO, DSO, TLS,
> TSO 25 and HR and GAK (seems to be the nearest). Pete is using a
setting called
> "marimba repeat." <SNIP>
>
> ... go on and read the rest yourself. Also download the audio demo
of the banjo> repeat on the Lowery - amazing stuff for 40 year old technology. > > eee - Edward Edwards > http://www.ezekielswheel.com > http://www.untiedmusic.com/ezekiel
2006-01-16 by Scott Murrell
My Motif has those sounds pretty darned close but I need them for the AN1X just for a backup.....
----- Original Message -----
From: uralmoto2001
To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AN1x] Crazy Who sounds
Yeah, it figures that "Baba O'Riley" was also played on the organ.
Funny; there's a quote from Pete Townshend on the back of the Arp2500
owners' manual where he says how suitable it is for stage work. Makes
me wonder how often they used it on stage. I had forgotten that
there's also an Ion preset called "Baba O'Riley". Very similar
to "Won't Get Fooled" in that an lfo square wave is used to mod VCA.
The key to this Ion patch though is that it uses key poly reset for
the lfo; I think the an1x only has key mono reset. May be another way
to get the same effect
though. -
--
Steve
--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Edwards" <edward.edwards@v...>
wrote:
>
> "Teenage Wasteland" (actually named Baba O'Riley) has a lot of
references if you
> Google it. There is an audio interview with Pete Townsend
somewhere out there
> where he reveals the entire process. Don't forget to listen
carefully, Townsend
> is moving around a lot on the keyboard -- this is not just a simple
hold down
> the keys and let the arpeggiator play it song.
>
> Google kindly provided this excellent site:
> http://www.wbtracks.co.uk/synths.htm
>
> Here's a snip:
> I'd always thought this was programmed into Pete's huge modular ARP
2500
> synth/sequencer. It certainly sounds like it could have been! It's
hard to
> believe that the sound we hear on Baba O'Riley is really a Lowrey
home organ.
> The model Pete used was a TBO-1, but for anyone wishing to recreate
Baba O'
> Riley, just pick one up the following models to do the same job:
TLO, DSO, TLS,
> TSO 25 and HR and GAK (seems to be the nearest). Pete is using a
setting called
> "marimba repeat." <SNIP>
>
> ... go on and read the rest yourself. Also download the audio demo
of the banjo
> repeat on the Lowery - amazing stuff for 40 year old technology.
>
> eee - Edward Edwards
> http://www.ezekielswheel.com
> http://www.untiedmusic.com/ezekiel
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-01-17 by Linda Dachtyl
> A tremolo stomp box with a square wave form works like a charm on this. I found this out after spending hours on programming a Kawai K-3 patch....with only 6 note polyphony:-( Linda
> From: "Scott Murrell" <bjork01@...> > Subject: Re: Crazy Who sounds > > My Motif has those sounds pretty darned close but I need them for the > AN1X just for a backup..... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: uralmoto2001 > To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:38 PM > Subject: Re: [AN1x] Crazy Who sounds > > > Yeah, it figures that "Baba O'Riley" was also played on the organ. > Funny; there's a quote from Pete Townshend on the back of the Arp2500 > owners' manual where he says how suitable it is for stage work. Makes > me wonder how often they used it on stage. I had forgotten that > there's also an Ion preset called "Baba O'Riley". Very similar > to "Won't Get Fooled" in that an lfo square wave is used to mod VCA. > The key to this Ion patch though is that it uses key poly reset for > the lfo; I think the an1x only has key mono reset. May be another way > to get the same effect > though. > - > -- > Steve > > --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Edwards" <edward.edwards@v...> > wrote: >> >> "Teenage Wasteland" (actually named Baba O'Riley) has a lot of > references if you >> Google it. There is an audio interview with Pete Townsend > somewhere out there >> where he reveals the entire process. Don't forget to listen > carefully, Townsend >> is moving around a lot on the keyboard -- this is not just a simple > hold down >> the keys and let the arpeggiator play it song. >> >> Google kindly provided this excellent site: >> http://www.wbtracks.co.uk/synths.htm >> >> Here's a snip: >> I'd always thought this was programmed into Pete's huge modular ARP > 2500 >> synth/sequencer. It certainly sounds like it could have been! It's > hard to >> believe that the sound we hear on Baba O'Riley is really a Lowrey > home organ. >> The model Pete used was a TBO-1, but for anyone wishing to recreate > Baba O' >> Riley, just pick one up the following models to do the same job: > TLO, DSO, TLS, >> TSO 25 and HR and GAK (seems to be the nearest). Pete is using a > setting called >> "marimba repeat." <SNIP> >> >> ... go on and read the rest yourself. Also download the audio demo > of the banjo >> repeat on the Lowery - amazing stuff for 40 year old technology. >> >> eee - Edward Edwards >> http://www.ezekielswheel.com >> http://www.untiedmusic.com/ezekiel > > > >
2006-01-27 by Linda Dachtyl
Take a look at this tremolo pedal for the square wave function. http://www.zzounds.com/item--BOSTR2 Linda
2006-01-27 by gillerot manu
The same effect at a better price...
http://www.behringer.com/UT100/index.cfm?lang=ENG
manu
Linda Dachtyl <lindaleed@...> a écrit : Take a look at this tremolo pedal for the square wave function.
http://www.zzounds.com/item--BOSTR2
Linda
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-01-28 by Linda Dachtyl
> Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:08:19 +0100 (CET) > From: gillerot manu <manugillerot@...> > Subject: RE: Re: Crazy Who sounds > > The same effect at a better price... > http://www.behringer.com/UT100/index.cfm?lang=ENG > manu > > Linda Dachtyl <lindaleed@...> a écrit : Take a look > at this tremolo pedal for the square wave function. > > http://www.zzounds.com/item--BOSTR2 > > Linda > When I bought my Boss it was on a close-out sale for 29.99 US, too. I forget from where....some mail order place. Looks like they jumped in price quite a bit since then!! I'd go with the Behringer. There really isn't that much to a tremolo pedal anyway, I don't think. It'll probably do the job for the Who tune nicely. Linda
2006-01-30 by instrujunkie
I'd suppose-if you still get one: http://www.musicstore.de/de/global/8_34_DJEFFEKTE_108_DJE0000974-000/0/0/0/detail/musicstore.html because Stereo in and out, kinda sidechain function, power supply included. Tom
2006-01-31 by meatballfulton
--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Murrell" <bjork01@c...> wrote:
>
> I had no idea it was actually done on a home organ,
> that's interesting and maybe gives me a little better
> insight into how to program that sound knowing that
> it's a repeating banjo part.
My mom owned a Lowrey, that's the board I learned to play on. In
addition to the "repeat percussion" feature (square wave modulated
tremelo) it also had a pitch bender ("Hawaiian guitar" effect) and a
wah-wah built in. Both the bender and wah were activated by toe levers
at the top of the volume pedal.
You can hear the bender in use on most Soft Machine albums, Mike
Ratledge used a Lowrey rather than a Hammond.2006-02-01 by Linda Dachtyl
OMessage: 3
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:59:13 -0000
> From: "meatballfulton" <rost@...>
> Subject: Re: Crazy Who sounds
>
> --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Murrell" <bjork01@c...> wrote:
>>
>> I had no idea it was actually done on a home organ,
>> that's interesting and maybe gives me a little better
>> insight into how to program that sound knowing that
>> it's a repeating banjo part.
>
> My mom owned a Lowrey, that's the board I learned to play on. In
> addition to the "repeat percussion" feature (square wave modulated
> tremelo) it also had a pitch bender ("Hawaiian guitar" effect) and a
> wah-wah built in. Both the bender and wah were activated by toe levers
> at the top of the volume pedal.
>
> You can hear the bender in use on most Soft Machine albums, Mike
> Ratledge used a Lowrey rather than a Hammond.
>
>
Me too....an HR88, I believe was the model I had. Pre wah-wah, I am
sure on mine.
I was so happy when we traded it in for a Hammond as the Who stuff was
the only thing that sounded good on that thing!
Linda2006-02-01 by John Williams
Hi, Probably the most prominent user of the Lowrey was Garth Hudson from The Band who also recorded extensively with Bob Dylan and a host of other folk. He made some gorgeous sounds with it, and used the pitch bend to great effect as well. I don't know what model he used but in the pics I've seen it looks like a full size job. His web site is http://www.garthhudson.com/. meatballfulton wrote:
> --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Murrell" <bjork01@c...> wrote:
> >
> > I had no idea it was actually done on a home organ,
> > that's interesting and maybe gives me a little better
> > insight into how to program that sound knowing that
> > it's a repeating banjo part.
>
> My mom owned a Lowrey, that's the board I learned to play on. In
> addition to the "repeat percussion" feature (square wave modulated
> tremelo) it also had a pitch bender ("Hawaiian guitar" effect) and a
> wah-wah built in. Both the bender and wah were activated by toe levers
> at the top of the volume pedal.
>
> You can hear the bender in use on most Soft Machine albums, Mike
> Ratledge used a Lowrey rather than a Hammond.
>