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charles midi gfa pascal schrieb:
pewe
i think we got steinberg twenty - four v.3
uploaded,
its copy right ..???
this atari stuff is getting real old,
and cannot be found anywhere.
I´m pretty sure it is copyright protected, unless it´s on the Steini
ftp legacy products server and declared as free.
I know, Avalon is on that server, but only for the guys who have a
dongle and need a replacement disk content AFAIK.
In the case of Steini, probably there would be more on the server for
download, but they lost the Atari stuff in a fire several years ago.
But maybe you have to differ between products/apps and the code itself
eventually.
The Atari products they had in stock are definitely lost but I think
the code is still there and I´m pretty sure all belongs to Yamaha now.
Not supporting a computer platform anymore and not selling the products
for this platform doesn´t mean they don´t hold the rights.
At least it depends on if someone cares on this or not,- you never know.
Have in mind all the Steini apps need dongles, so if a program runs
without a dongle, it´s a crack,- that´s a fact.
Also, it makes no sense to upload dongle protected software to any
files sections if there is no dongle available.
As w/ every company in the pioneer times, all started like a small
family which slowly grew up and 1st there was the idealism and money
was 2nd row. I can imagine they worked a lot and hard and the income
was small for years.
The 1st generation were freaky guys, musicians too,- and often there
were more people existing who participated on the rights of the early
generation programs as it is the case today where a monstrous companys
hire the coders all over the world for a fee.
Most old coders of those companys are gone since years,- but did they
abdicate their rights which they eventually had or have up to now ? Can
be, cannot be ...
In fact, the old founders aren´t in the company today anymore and no
one knows how the legal department of Yamaha behaves in such cases.
Have in mind the possibility, the leaving guys got a compensation and
all belongs to the trust now,- the knowledge, the experience and the
creativity of the work of that people, the functionality, concept and
graphical design of the apps,- everything you can imagine. All this
generally can be used in upcoming products and concepts as part of a
idea p.ex.
I´m surprised how many people think about the products of software
developers in the terms of "separate products".
The Steini sequencers we have today are all based on the very 1st
sequencer they started to develope, on the Commodore, then the Atari
ST, the Falcon, then the Mac and PC.
The stuff grew up and changed, became more and more complex, audio came
up, the code was ported to other platforms and so on, but there was a
beginning and I don´t believe the intention of companies is to publish
their knowledge for free.
And they want you to buy their todays products and not to use their old
ones for free because these were good enough too,- and they were,- how
in the world should we have recorded and produced succesfull music in
the past,- just w/ midi, tape machines and SMPTE ?
That´s the way how economy works folks.
if somebody has some of this hard to find stuff, email me or
put in files sections ,
the atari midi needs no boundries!!
charles