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i2c flash memory

2007-12-20 by Steven Hodge

Does anyone know of external flash memory that communicates over an I2C bus?
All the ones I have looked at so far use SPI.  I've found I2C EEPROM memory,
but not flash.  

Thanks, Steve

Re: [AVR-Chat] i2c flash memory

2007-12-20 by Jim Wagner

I believe that Ramtron makes some. They are zero-wait NVRAM, not 
exactly flash or EEPROM, but I've had good experience with their stuff. 
I've only used SPI versions but I think there are I2C versions, also.

Jim

On Dec 20, 2007, at 10:39 AM, Steven Hodge wrote:

> Does anyone know of external flash memory that communicates over an 
> I2C bus?
>  All the ones I have looked at so far use SPI. I've found I2C EEPROM 
> memory,
>  but not flash.
>
>  Thanks, Steve
>
>  
>     

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RE: [AVR-Chat] i2c flash memory

2007-12-20 by Philippe Habib

There is the NXP PCF8570 256 words by 8 bits static ram.

Here is a page that lists various parts:

http://www.sxlist.com/techref/mem/srams.htm
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Subject: [AVR-Chat] i2c flash memory

Does anyone know of external flash memory that communicates over an I2C bus?
All the ones I have looked at so far use SPI.  I've found I2C EEPROM memory,
but not flash.  

Thanks, Steve



 
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Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-20 by John

Why is it required to be flash.  There are I2C EEPROM's supporting
over 1 million write cycles.  This for me is more than sufficient. 
i.e. 24LC256

John C

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Hodge" <stevehodge@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of external flash memory that communicates over an
I2C bus?
> All the ones I have looked at so far use SPI.  I've found I2C EEPROM
memory,
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> but not flash.  
> 
> Thanks, Steve
>

RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-20 by Steven Hodge

I need much higher capacity, 1 MB (8 Mbit) minimum, for data logging.
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Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

 

Why is it required to be flash. There are I2C EEPROM's supporting
over 1 million write cycles. This for me is more than sufficient. 
i.e. 24LC256

John C





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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Rene Teo

Hi John,

About the largest I2C EEPROM's that I am aware of are 1Mbit capacity.

Is there a reason why you would not want to go the SPI route?  Atmel
has several serial flashes in the 8-128Mbit range. A 16Mbit serial flash
is less than $2 and offers the advantage of higher access speeds.

I was in the same situation several months ago and looked at the Atmel
serial flashes.  However, I have decided to go with SD (since I can use
an SPI interface with them) and 1GB cards today are at $6 or so.

Rene T.
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  From: Steven Hodge 
  To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:35 PM
  Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory


  I need much higher capacity, 1 MB (8 Mbit) minimum, for data logging.

  From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
  Of John
  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:52 PM
  To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

  Why is it required to be flash. There are I2C EEPROM's supporting
  over 1 million write cycles. This for me is more than sufficient. 
  i.e. 24LC256

  John C

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Steven Hodge

Do you have a link to the SD you use?  Steve
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Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

 

Hi John,

About the largest I2C EEPROM's that I am aware of are 1Mbit capacity.

Is there a reason why you would not want to go the SPI route? Atmel
has several serial flashes in the 8-128Mbit range. A 16Mbit serial flash
is less than $2 and offers the advantage of higher access speeds.

I was in the same situation several months ago and looked at the Atmel
serial flashes. However, I have decided to go with SD (since I can use
an SPI interface with them) and 1GB cards today are at $6 or so.

Rene T.

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AVR-Chat%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

I need much higher capacity, 1 MB (8 Mbit) minimum, for data logging.

From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AVR-Chat%40yahoogroups.com>
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Of John
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Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

Why is it required to be flash. There are I2C EEPROM's supporting
over 1 million write cycles. This for me is more than sufficient. 
i.e. 24LC256

John C

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Philippe Habib

Why do you want to stay away from SPI?  In any case, would 2 of these work
for you?

FM24C512 from ramtron
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Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

I need much higher capacity, 1 MB (8 Mbit) minimum, for data logging.

 

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Of John
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:52 PM
To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

 

Why is it required to be flash. There are I2C EEPROM's supporting
over 1 million write cycles. This for me is more than sufficient. 
i.e. 24LC256

John C





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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Rene Teo

Steven,

I'm not sure I understand what you are asking.  I'm using standard SD cards.

RT.
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  From: Steven Hodge 
  To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:16 PM
  Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory


  Do you have a link to the SD you use? Steve

  From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
  Of Rene Teo
  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:00 PM
  To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

  Hi John,

  About the largest I2C EEPROM's that I am aware of are 1Mbit capacity.

  Is there a reason why you would not want to go the SPI route? Atmel
  has several serial flashes in the 8-128Mbit range. A 16Mbit serial flash
  is less than $2 and offers the advantage of higher access speeds.

  I was in the same situation several months ago and looked at the Atmel
  serial flashes. However, I have decided to go with SD (since I can use
  an SPI interface with them) and 1GB cards today are at $6 or so.

  Rene T.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steven Hodge 
  To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AVR-Chat%40yahoogroups.com> 
  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:35 PM
  Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

  I need much higher capacity, 1 MB (8 Mbit) minimum, for data logging.

  From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AVR-Chat%40yahoogroups.com>
  [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AVR-Chat%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
  Behalf
  Of John
  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:52 PM
  To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AVR-Chat%40yahoogroups.com> 
  Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

  Why is it required to be flash. There are I2C EEPROM's supporting
  over 1 million write cycles. This for me is more than sufficient. 
  i.e. 24LC256

  John C

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Steven Hodge

I thought those were things you stuck in digital cameras, etc.  How do you
interface them with - preferably on - a pcb?   Steve
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Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

 

Steven,

I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. I'm using standard SD cards.

RT.





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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Steven Hodge

I'm looking for at least  1 MB, so that's 8 of those babies, so then it gets
to be a pcb space issue.

 

The reason I'm trying to avoid SPI is just the usual I/O pin scarcity and I
already have three I2C devices so am  committed to that bus regardless.
Memory is the only reason for SPI.   Of course, I can solve the I/O pin
scarcity by multiplexing but I'd like to avoid that too.  I2C memory seemed
like a good solution.if it were available in the capacity I'm looking for.
If that is impossible, well it'll have to be SPI and use multiplexing for
some I/O pins. 

 

Steve
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Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

 

Why do you want to stay away from SPI? In any case, would 2 of these work
for you?

FM24C512 from ramtron

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Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Rene Teo

Yes, I am using those that are used in digital cameras and such.  You
can get connectors for SD cards from Digikey, Mouser ec.

There are 2 big advantages in going this route. One is cost.  As I said
earlier, a 1GB SD card is about $6.  Using any other type of flash memory
is going to cost hundreds of dollars for 1GB.  Secondly, the SD card can
be removed and read by a PC - to transfer data etc. especially if you are
talking about large amounts of data.

RT
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  From: Steven Hodge 
  To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:37 PM
  Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory


  I thought those were things you stuck in digital cameras, etc. How do you
  interface them with - preferably on - a pcb? Steve

  From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
  Of Rene Teo
  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:33 PM
  To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

  Steven,

  I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. I'm using standard SD cards.

  RT.

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Bruce Parham

Steve,

A Micro-SD card and socket will fill the bill. Just don't drop the SD card,
you'll never find it!

See http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=127 for
some ideas.

Bruce


Steven Hodge wrote:
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> I'm looking for at least  1 MB, so that's 8 of those babies, so then it gets
> to be a pcb space issue.
> 
>  
> 
> The reason I'm trying to avoid SPI is just the usual I/O pin scarcity and I
> already have three I2C devices so am  committed to that bus regardless.
> Memory is the only reason for SPI.   Of course, I can solve the I/O pin
> scarcity by multiplexing but I'd like to avoid that too.  I2C memory seemed
> like a good solution.if it were available in the capacity I'm looking for.
> If that is impossible, well it'll have to be SPI and use multiplexing for
> some I/O pins. 
> 
>  
> 
> Steve
> 
>  
> 
> From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Philippe Habib
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:20 PM
> To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory
> 
>  
> 
> Why do you want to stay away from SPI? In any case, would 2 of these work
> for you?
> 
> FM24C512 from ramtron
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AVR-Chat%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AVR-Chat%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> Of Steven Hodge
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:35 PM
> To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AVR-Chat%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory
> 
> I need much higher capacity, 1 MB (8 Mbit) minimum, for data logging.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Philippe Habib

Another thing to watch for is the quality of the card you're using.  I
worked on a multi million Dollar device a couple of years ago that stopped
working when the consumer quality cards started flaking out after a few
months of being read and written.  The commercial quality cards cost more,
but are rated for many more R/W cycles.
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Of Bruce Parham
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:52 PM
To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

Steve,

A Micro-SD card and socket will fill the bill. Just don't drop the SD card,
you'll never find it!

See http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=127 for
some ideas.

Bruce


Steven Hodge wrote:

> I'm looking for at least  1 MB, so that's 8 of those babies, so then it
gets
> to be a pcb space issue.
> 
>  
> 
> The reason I'm trying to avoid SPI is just the usual I/O pin scarcity and
I
> already have three I2C devices so am  committed to that bus regardless.
> Memory is the only reason for SPI.   Of course, I can solve the I/O pin
> scarcity by multiplexing but I'd like to avoid that too.  I2C memory
seemed
> like a good solution.if it were available in the capacity I'm looking for.
> If that is impossible, well it'll have to be SPI and use multiplexing for
> some I/O pins. 
> 
>  
> 
> Steve
> 
>  
> 
> From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Philippe Habib
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:20 PM
> To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory
> 
>  
> 
> Why do you want to stay away from SPI? In any case, would 2 of these work
> for you?
> 
> FM24C512 from ramtron
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AVR-Chat%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AVR-Chat%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> Of Steven Hodge
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:35 PM
> To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AVR-Chat%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory
> 
> I need much higher capacity, 1 MB (8 Mbit) minimum, for data logging.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 



 
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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Robert Adsett

At 03:35 PM 12/20/2007 -0800, Steven Hodge wrote:
>I need much higher capacity, 1 MB (8 Mbit) minimum, for data logging.

And there is the reason you probably won't find IIC support.  At 400kHz it 
takes 20secs to read that even with no overhead.  At 20MHz that drops to 
less than a second.

Robert

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Steven Hodge

Ah, thanks.  That explains it.   SPI is it, then.

 

BTW, I ordered the SW200 contactor yesterday.   Rick at Tecknowledgey was
very helpful.

 

Steve
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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:09 PM
To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

 

At 03:35 PM 12/20/2007 -0800, Steven Hodge wrote:
>I need much higher capacity, 1 MB (8 Mbit) minimum, for data logging.

And there is the reason you probably won't find IIC support. At 400kHz it 
takes 20secs to read that even with no overhead. At 20MHz that drops to 
less than a second.

Robert





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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Steven Hodge

These are looking very interesting.    However, I'll be darned if I can find
out any specifications on how much power these cards consume.   Do you know
where I can find real  data sheets on them?   On the cards that is, not the
sockets.   A search on "microsd data sheet" on the SanDisk website just
comes up with financial stuff.   Steve
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Of Bruce Parham
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:52 PM
To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

 

Steve,

A Micro-SD card and socket will fill the bill. Just don't drop the SD card,
you'll never find it!

See http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=127 for
some ideas.

Bruce






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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Bruce Parham

The MicroSD card spec, on the SparkFun page, lists 15-25 mA @ 25 MHz read/write
and 0.3-0.6 mA in stanby with the clock stopped. Presumably it's for the 512MB
card at the bottom of the page.

Bruce



Steven Hodge wrote:
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> These are looking very interesting.    However, I'll be darned if I can find
> out any specifications on how much power these cards consume.   Do you know
> where I can find real  data sheets on them?   On the cards that is, not the
> sockets.   A search on "microsd data sheet" on the SanDisk website just
> comes up with financial stuff.   Steve
> 
>  
> 
> From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Bruce Parham
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:52 PM
> To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory
> 
>  
> 
> Steve,
> 
> A Micro-SD card and socket will fill the bill. Just don't drop the SD card,
> you'll never find it!
> 
> See http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=127 for
> some ideas.
> 
> Bruce

RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Steven Hodge

Thanks.  I was never able to get anywhere with that SparkFun link, just an
Adobe error message about needing some Chinese language plugins.

 

The power consumption is more than I'd like, but I'll ponder it.
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Of Bruce Parham
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:01 PM
To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

 


The MicroSD card spec, on the SparkFun page, lists 15-25 mA @ 25 MHz
read/write
and 0.3-0.6 mA in stanby with the clock stopped. Presumably it's for the
512MB
card at the bottom of the page.

Bruce




 



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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Robert Adsett

At 05:13 PM 12/20/2007 -0800, Steven Hodge wrote:
>BTW, I ordered the SW200 contactor yesterday.   Rick at Tecknowledgey was
>very helpful.

Good to hear.  Let us know how you get on, I'm kind of curious.

Robert

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