AVR-Chat

Definitely build the SI-Prog programmer that is featured on the ponyprog
page. I have used an SI-Prog for years, and it always worked fairly well
with Ponyprog.

The only problem I've had with SI-Prog is that it sometimes has problems
reading/writing fuse bits on some of the newer AVR chips. It seems to
expect the chip to be running at 4MHz.

A low-cost alternative would be to purchase an AVR-ISP ... they are only
$30 in the US, and the headaches you'll save by using the Atmel
programmer are worth the money.

Dave

On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 01:01 +0330, Hamid reza Kabiri wrote:
> Hello
> Thanks for help me
> But I want design circute myself.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jose Fuentes [mailto:josecarlosfuentes@yahoo.com.ar] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:57 PM
> To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] i need sample circuite
> 
> 
> Hamid,
> I suggest you to use the STK-200 programmer with
> PonyProg.
> 
> Jose
> 
>  --- "David D. Rea" <dave@daverea.com> escribió: 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 23:31 +0330, Hamid reza Kabiri
> > wrote:
> > > Hello
> > > I want sample circuite for serial programming
> > mega64
> > > thanks 
> > 
> > Are you looking for a programmer circuit, or a
> > hookup diagram to connect
> > a mega64 to a programmer you already own?
> > 
> > Programmer circuit:
> > http://www.lancos.com/prog.html
> > 
> > For a hook-up diagram, check the Application note
> > 910:
> >
> http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/DOC0943.PDF
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Please don't hijack threads! You'll get better results if you start a
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I use the SPI Flash products from ST Microelectronics. I use them with
MSP430 controllers, but they're very easy to interface and would
probably be a snap on the AVR.

Good luck!

Dave

On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 11:19 -0500, Dave VanHorn wrote:
> 
> Folks:  I need some big data memory.  3V is ok, but I need speed.
> I'm interfacing with two systems, one is either 16 bit parallel, or SPI, 
> and the other is the AVR, with this memory sitting in the middle.
> Basically the AVR loads the memory, then the memory is "played" out to the 
> other device, but I haven't decided how that will happen yet.
> 
> Minimum memory size, 16 Mbit, larger is better.
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Look at this web page:
http://www.bsdhome.com/avrdude/

Parallel Port Programmer Function 
Pin 7         AVR /RESET 
Pin 8         AVR SCK (clock input) 
Pin 9         AVR MOSI (instruction in) 
Pin 10        AVR MISO (data out) 
Pin 18        Signal Ground 

Also download AVR Dude , install it, and add the
following to the configuration file avrdude.conf:

programmer
id = "bsd";
desc = "Brian Dean's Programmer,
http://www.bsdhome.com/avrdude/";
type = par;
vcc = 2, 3, 4, 5;
reset = 7;
sck = 8;
mosi = 9;
miso = 10;
;


These are the parallel port pins:

pin señal
1 strobe
2 data0
3 data1
4 data2
5 data3
6 data4
7 data5
8 data6
9 data7
10 Acknowledge
11 Busy
12 Paper End
13 Select
14 Auto Feed
15 Error
16 Init
17 Select In
18 GND
19 GND
20 GND
21 GND
22 GND
23 GND
24 GND
25 GND


Take into account that it not always work depending on
the parallel port output voltage.

Regards,

Jose


> On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 01:01 +0330, Hamid reza Kabiri
> wrote:
> > Hello
> > Thanks for help me
> > But I want design circute myself.  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jose Fuentes
> [mailto:josecarlosfuentes@yahoo.com.ar] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:57 PM
> > To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] i need sample circuite
> > 
> > 
> > Hamid,
> > I suggest you to use the STK-200 programmer with
> > PonyProg.
> > 
> > Jose
> > 
> >  --- "David D. Rea" <dave@daverea.com> escribió: 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 23:31 +0330, Hamid reza
> Kabiri
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hello
> > > > I want sample circuite for serial programming
> > > mega64
> > > > thanks 
> > > 
> > > Are you looking for a programmer circuit, or a
> > > hookup diagram to connect
> > > a mega64 to a programmer you already own?
> > > 
> > > Programmer circuit:
> > > http://www.lancos.com/prog.html
> > > 
> > > For a hook-up diagram, check the Application
> note
> > > 910:
> > >
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http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/DOC0943.PDF
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Folks:  I need some big data memory.  3V is ok, but I need speed.
I'm interfacing with two systems, one is either 16 bit parallel, or SPI, 
and the other is the AVR, with this memory sitting in the middle.
Basically the AVR loads the memory, then the memory is "played" out to the 
other device, but I haven't decided how that will happen yet.

Minimum memory size, 16 Mbit, larger is better.

Any favorites?

David D. Rea wrote:

> Please don't hijack threads! You'll get better results if you start a
> new message...
> 
> I use the SPI Flash products from ST Microelectronics. I use them with
> MSP430 controllers, but they're very easy to interface and would
> probably be a snap on the AVR.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Dave

Are you sure Dave did ? He is a MOD here :)

Regards,

Kat.

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David D. Rea wrote:


> I use the SPI Flash products from ST Microelectronics. I use them with
> MSP430 controllers, but they're very easy to interface and would
> probably be a snap on the AVR.

One of my projects is going to use multiple 8Mbit flash from SST part # 
SST25LF080A :)

I have to store about 3-4 Mbyte but it is slow data so no need for parallel.

Regards,

Kat.



> Good luck!
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> On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 11:19 -0500, Dave VanHorn wrote:
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>>Folks:  I need some big data memory.  3V is ok, but I need speed.
>>I'm interfacing with two systems, one is either 16 bit parallel, or SPI, 
>>and the other is the AVR, with this memory sitting in the middle.
>>Basically the AVR loads the memory, then the memory is "played" out to the 
>>other device, but I haven't decided how that will happen yet.
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At 11:01 AM 1/27/2005, David D. Rea wrote:

>Please don't hijack threads! You'll get better results if you start a
>new message...

Excuse me?

>I use the SPI Flash products from ST Microelectronics. I use them with
>MSP430 controllers, but they're very easy to interface and would
>probably be a snap on the AVR.

Ok, I'll look into it.

On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 00:36 +0800, Kathy Quinlan wrote:
> David D. Rea wrote:
> Are you sure Dave did ? He is a MOD here :)

Maybe it's just Evolution's threading being dumb. Both messages
contained this header:

> In-Reply-To: <1106835450.8005.23.camel@localhost>

Perhaps it's a little bitchiness on my part bleeding over from my
linux-geek mailing lists... Sorry if I offended Dave! 

I'll continue to bite my tongue about top-posting... [grin]

~Dave

David D. Rea wrote:

> On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 00:36 +0800, Kathy Quinlan wrote:
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>>David D. Rea wrote:
>>Are you sure Dave did ? He is a MOD here :)
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> ~Dave

Hmmm looks that way, but would not run anything past Yahoo, they insert 
so much crap into the headers these days :(

Yeah I hate top posting to, but it is easier to live with top posting 
than having to troll through umpteen squillion bytes of pre message etc 
to find a me too type comment.

Maybe us old *nix geeks are just to set in our ways from when we had 
1200/75 baud modems or 300 baud lol

Regards,

Kat.

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From: Dingo 
To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:05 AM
Subject: [AVR-Chat] Is avrfreaks down?


Is anyone else having dificulty accessing www.avrfreaks.net?



Yes, the site is down again.

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Check this out:
 
http://www.eetasia.com/ARTICLES/2000MAR/2000MAR14_AMD_MSD_AN.PDF

this is an application note with a AT45DB161 16M-bit
dataflash that operates from 2.7 to 3.6V.

Regards,

Jose


 --- Dave VanHorn <dvanhorn@dvanhorn.org> escribió: 
> 
> 
> Folks:  I need some big data memory.  3V is ok, but
> I need speed.
> I'm interfacing with two systems, one is either 16
> bit parallel, or SPI, 
> and the other is the AVR, with this memory sitting
> in the middle.
> Basically the AVR loads the memory, then the memory
> is "played" out to the 
> other device, but I haven't decided how that will
> happen yet.
> 
> Minimum memory size, 16 Mbit, larger is better.
> 
> Any favorites?
> 
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>     AVR-Chat-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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How about Compact Flash? They are big memory and cheap. But I don't know how
fast. I purchased a demo card that has an ATMega128, ethernet, and a compact
flash.
I program in Bascom and have made the compact flash work. I am still in the
early testing stages. It works like IDE hard drive. Storing data in files
may not be good for your app.

http://members.home.nl/bzijlstra/hardware/hardware.htm

Joe Torelli
Mansfield, Texas

>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Dave VanHorn [mailto:dvanhorn@dvanhorn.org]
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 10:20 AM
>>>To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com; AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
>>>Subject: [AVR-Chat] Big data memory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Folks:  I need some big data memory.  3V is ok, but I need speed.
>>>I'm interfacing with two systems, one is either 16 bit parallel, or SPI,
>>>and the other is the AVR, with this memory sitting in the middle.
>>>Basically the AVR loads the memory, then the memory is "played" out to
>>>the
>>>other device, but I haven't decided how that will happen yet.
>>>
>>>Minimum memory size, 16 Mbit, larger is better.
>>>
>>>Any favorites?
>>>

At 11:56 AM 1/28/2005, joseph torelli wrote:

>How about Compact Flash? They are big memory and cheap. But I don't know how
>fast. I purchased a demo card that has an ATMega128, ethernet, and a compact
>flash.
>I program in Bascom and have made the compact flash work. I am still in the
>early testing stages. It works like IDE hard drive. Storing data in files
>may not be good for your app.
>
>http://members.home.nl/bzijlstra/hardware/hardware.htm

Unfortunately, I don't think serial interface will be fast enough, although 
it would be acceptable for loading the data into memory.
What I'm envisioning, is a parallel connection, 8 or preferrably 16 bit, 
with the AVR just strobing pins to achieve the transfers by hitting read on 
the dataflash, and write on the other device, and letting the one drive the 
other.   I never need to "SEE" the data, I just need to shovel it.

OK, one thing everyone seems to be doing is assuming you need to
actually keep the data in case of a power bump.  I'm going the
opposite direction:  Try dual port SRAM or FIFO.

Cypress ( http://www.cypress.com/ ) makes a large number of Dual port
SRAMS and FIFOs.  They're actually overkill speed wise, maybe.

Their listing of the dual ports are currently down.... but the FIFO's
are up.  

Here's one that may suit your purposes:

http://www.cypress.com/portal/server.pt?space=Comm
unityPage&control=SetCommunity&CommunityID=209&Pag
eID=259&fid=12&rpn=CY7C4285

100MHZ max operation speed, 18 bit width, 1M depth, unidirectional,
which would give you your 16 bits plus 2 parity.  You could probably
duplex two of their 9 bit x 1M devices together so that you share one
8 bit parallel link at the AVR end but you get the full 16 at the
other.  Depends on how many pins you have to sacrifice.  Heck, you
could use an SPI port expander to load the data if you really need the
pins :)

It's even available in 3V and 5V versions.

Jerry

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Dave VanHorn <dvanhorn@d...> wrote:
<snipy>
> Unfortunately, I don't think serial interface will be fast enough,
although 
> it would be acceptable for loading the data into memory.
> What I'm envisioning, is a parallel connection, 8 or preferrably 16
bit, 
> with the AVR just strobing pins to achieve the transfers by hitting
read on 
> the dataflash, and write on the other device, and letting the one
drive the 
> other.   I never need to "SEE" the data, I just need to shovel it.

At 10:57 AM 1/29/2005, assault_wolf wrote:


>OK, one thing everyone seems to be doing is assuming you need to
>actually keep the data in case of a power bump.

Unfortunately, that is a valid assumption.
I've found a part, a gigabit NAND-Flash from ST, that has serial and 8/16 
bit interfaces, so it looks pretty much ideal.
Thanks anyhoo. :)

I have been looking for a board with a Mega128, ethernet and compact 
flash. I can't find one on the link page. The ATA hard drive 
controller board had a Mega128 but that is no longer available.


--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Dave VanHorn <dvanhorn@d...> wrote:
> At 11:56 AM 1/28/2005, joseph torelli wrote:
> 
> >How about Compact Flash? They are big memory and cheap. But I 
don't know how
> >fast. I purchased a demo card that has an ATMega128, ethernet, and 
a compact
> >flash.
> >I program in Bascom and have made the compact flash work. I am 
still in the
> >early testing stages. It works like IDE hard drive. Storing data 
in files
> >may not be good for your app.
> >
> >http://members.home.nl/bzijlstra/hardware/hardware.htm
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't think serial interface will be fast enough, 
although 
> it would be acceptable for loading the data into memory.
> What I'm envisioning, is a parallel connection, 8 or preferrably 16 
bit, 
> with the AVR just strobing pins to achieve the transfers by hitting 
read on 
> the dataflash, and write on the other device, and letting the one 
drive the 
> other.   I never need to "SEE" the data, I just need to shovel it.

Maybe able to help you, have mega 128 in the following form:

- Die cast housing with 8 p/button, memebrane on front have your own 
logo.
- 20*2 line b/light LCD
- 10 Opto isolated inputs/8 Opto isolated outputs
- Analog in 40-20 0-5, 0-10.
- Real time clock.
- Lantonix Xport ethernet Interface.
- mega byts of memory via SPI.
- 2 RS232 interface ports.
- Runs direct from mains power.
- Panel mounting with rear clamps.
- 1wire interface with touch receptical on the front

This is a complete controller ready to go, have these units operating 
in various industrial enviroments.

 The Xport is being added right now.

All connections via rear of unit,I can send you photos on details.


Laury Gordyn
 


--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <engvt@y...> wrote:
> I have been looking for a board with a Mega128, ethernet and 
compact 
> flash. I can't find one on the link page. The ATA hard drive 
> controller board had a Mega128 but that is no longer available.
> 
> 
> --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Dave VanHorn <dvanhorn@d...> wrote:
> > At 11:56 AM 1/28/2005, joseph torelli wrote:
> > 
> > >How about Compact Flash? They are big memory and cheap. But I 
> don't know how
> > >fast. I purchased a demo card that has an ATMega128, ethernet, 
and 
> a compact
> > >flash.
> > >I program in Bascom and have made the compact flash work. I am 
> still in the
> > >early testing stages. It works like IDE hard drive. Storing data 
> in files
> > >may not be good for your app.
> > >
> > >http://members.home.nl/bzijlstra/hardware/hardware.htm
> > 
> > Unfortunately, I don't think serial interface will be fast 
enough, 
> although 
> > it would be acceptable for loading the data into memory.
> > What I'm envisioning, is a parallel connection, 8 or preferrably 
16 
> bit, 
> > with the AVR just strobing pins to achieve the transfers by 
hitting 

> read on 
> > the dataflash, and write on the other device, and letting the one 
> drive the 
> > other.   I never need to "SEE" the data, I just need to shovel it.

-----Original Message-----

From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Laurens Gordyn
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 1:46 AM
To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: Big data memory

Maybe able to help you, have mega 128 in the following form:

I would be interested in seeing info on this as well.

Unit can be veiwed at www.siloguard.com.au, site is not finished yet 
some links go nowhere. See what you think I can send the rear of the 
unit to give you some idea of the connections.

Regards

laurens Gordyn

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Locke" <doug@w...> wrote:
> Hello Laury
> 
> Certainly be interested in seeing some details as well.
> 
> Doug.
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf
> Of Laurens Gordyn
>   Sent: 01 August 2005 07:46
>   To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: Big data memory
> 
> 
>   Maybe able to help you, have mega 128 in the following form:
> 
>   - Die cast housing with 8 p/button, memebrane on front have your 
own
>   logo.
>   - 20*2 line b/light LCD
>   - 10 Opto isolated inputs/8 Opto isolated outputs
>   - Analog in 40-20 0-5, 0-10.
>   - Real time clock.
>   - Lantonix Xport ethernet Interface.
>   - mega byts of memory via SPI.
>   - 2 RS232 interface ports.
>   - Runs direct from mains power.
>   - Panel mounting with rear clamps.
>   - 1wire interface with touch receptical on the front
> 
>   This is a complete controller ready to go, have these units 
operating
>   in various industrial enviroments.
> 
>   The Xport is being added right now.
> 
>   All connections via rear of unit,I can send you photos on details.
> 
> 
>   Laury Gordyn
> 
> 
> 
>   --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <engvt@y...> wrote:
>   > I have been looking for a board with a Mega128, ethernet and
>   compact
>   > flash. I can't find one on the link page. The ATA hard drive
>   > controller board had a Mega128 but that is no longer available.
>   >
>   >
>   > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Dave VanHorn <dvanhorn@d...> 
wrote:
>   > > At 11:56 AM 1/28/2005, joseph torelli wrote:
>   > >
>   > > >How about Compact Flash? They are big memory and cheap. But I
>   > don't know how
>   > > >fast. I purchased a demo card that has an ATMega128, 
ethernet,
>   and
>   > a compact
>   > > >flash.
>   > > >I program in Bascom and have made the compact flash work. I 
am
>   > still in the
>   > > >early testing stages. It works like IDE hard drive. Storing 
data
>   > in files
>   > > >may not be good for your app.
>   > > >
>   > > >http://members.home.nl/bzijlstra/hardware/hardware.htm
>   > >
>   > > Unfortunately, I don't think serial interface will be fast
>   enough,
>   > although
>   > > it would be acceptable for loading the data into memory.
>   > > What I'm envisioning, is a parallel connection, 8 or 
preferrably
>   16
>   > bit,
>   > > with the AVR just strobing pins to achieve the transfers by
>   hitting
>   > read on
>   > > the dataflash, and write on the other device, and letting the 
one
>   > drive the
>   > > other.   I never need to "SEE" the data, I just need to 
shovel it.
> 
> 
> 
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On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 06:45 +0000, Laurens Gordyn wrote:
> Maybe able to help you, have mega 128 in the following form:
> 
> - Die cast housing with 8 p/button, memebrane on front have your own 
> logo.

[additional text removed for brevity]

   Please contact me directly, I have an interest in such devices.


Tom

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