Boss VF-1 Effect Processor

I have a GP-100, and may sell that and get a VF-1. I am planning on 
using it for the effects only, as I am also getting a SansAmp PSA-1 
preamp for the main guitar sounds and using the VF-1 in the effects 
loop. Can anyone compare the GP-100 sounds with the VF-1?

thanks
Dave Eichenberger: guitars.loops.devices
http://www.hazardfactor.com/dave

I own a gp-100, 2-3 years now and a vf-1 since 1/2 a year.

Very short: for guitar I would have to choose the gp (but it's a difficult
choice), not the vf.

I'l give a short (?) list of reasons.

The gp has 16 assignable controls, the vf only 4.
The gp has a double/stereo send returns, 4 outputs, midi thru/out, the vf
"only" has stereo in/outputs and digital out and midi in-out (no thru, that
means it's a midi death end street, midi-splitters and so on).
The Gp allows you to put every effect anywhere in the chain, the vf is
limited.

I do think that the vf-1 and the sansamp can deliver very nice sounds, but
the vf 1 is not only guitar oriented but bass/keyboard/vocal/studio allround
kinda machine, and this results in the fact that I think the GP is the more
allround (more flexible) guitar equipment.
The gp is very guitar dedicated, also the amp simulation and speaker sim.
are separated effects, the vf 1 has joined them together (the gp allows you
to switch amp sim OFF and speaker sim. ON, the vf-1 speaker-amp sim. can not
be separated they are one effect and I think you might wanna use the speaker
simulation for your Sans Amp).

The vf - 1 effects are very nice, but sometimes I find the overall sound
thinner and more digital, it gives good competition but, if I had to choose,
for guitar I would keep the GP-100, but then again they are different
sounding machines.
Last thing, some other people in this group mentioned (I think) the vf-1 is
sometimes noisy, I sometimes hear a sound that should not be in the signal,
I think you can imagine the sound of the drums in a room produced by the
vibes of let's say my guitar playing Very loud, you can hear the drum become
alive, triggered by the sound waves of my guitar.
And that's a sound i hear sometimes produced by the Vf-1.
Don't know (yet)  what causes it and if tweaking will remove this sound,
it's there in some presets, maybe I'm clipping some effects.
But I think I' keep both machines, I've also got a ADA tube preamp,
sometimes I hook it up to the gp's send returns, very  nice sounding real
tubes but the gp does a very good job whitouth the real thing.

Greetings,

Sjaak de Vos
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Van: the_mincer <mincer1@...>
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Datum: dinsdag 11 december 2001 2:28
Onderwerp: [BossVF1] VF-1 vs GP-100

>I have a GP-100, and may sell that and get a VF-1. I am planning on
>using it for the effects only, as I am also getting a SansAmp PSA-1
>preamp for the main guitar sounds and using the VF-1 in the effects
>loop. Can anyone compare the GP-100 sounds with the VF-1?
>
>thanks
>Dave Eichenberger: guitars.loops.devices
>http://www.hazardfactor.com/dave
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Thanks for the info. Can you please explain how the VF-1 is limited 
in putting the effects in any order? 

thanks much!
Dave Eichenberger
http://www.hazardfactor.com/dave

 
> 
> The gp has 16 assignable controls, the vf only 4.
> The gp has a double/stereo send returns, 4 outputs, midi thru/out, 
the vf
> "only" has stereo in/outputs and digital out and midi in-out (no 
thru, that
> means it's a midi death end street, midi-splitters and so on).
> The Gp allows you to put every effect anywhere in the chain, the 
vf is
> limited.

Limitations placing the effects in the chain.

The vf has two guitar algorithms (Pb1 and Pb2, it also has a acoustic git.
alg Pb4, haven't used that much yet).
PB1 : comp/lim -wah -preamp/speaker sim. - 4 band eq - ns - Mod (this block
contains a hr, fl, ph, sub eq, 2ce - shortdelay -hu - vb -syn - rm -slicer
and allows you to choose one of them, another limitation) - delay - chorus -
reverb.

Okay, the manual says: you can (only) place the Mod and the pre/speakersim.
anywhere in the effect chain, quite a difference compared to the GP.

Pb2 looks like this: com/lim - sfx (contains a ac guit sim, bass git sim, a
pick up sim. and a slow gear, a trem/pan and a feedbacker, again a
limitation because you can only choose 1) - preamp/sp.sim. - wah - 4bandeq -
ns - delay - ce -reverb.

I can (only) place the sfx block and the preamp sp. sim anywhere in the
chain.

Finally, I took a look at your website and your gear, nice.
I own a JV - 880 and a Gr -30 and some more stuff.
If you can afford the extra money : buy the vf and keep the gp, it's worth
the money, this thing has a lot to offer besides the guitar department/alg,
and looking at your gear (esp. the mixer using the send returns): the VF is
a lovely toy, my synths are sounding like they never did before, the vf has
46 or so algorithms and lots of possibilyties (excuse my spelling)

greetings,

Sjaak de Vos
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Datum: woensdag 12 december 2001 2:55
Onderwerp: [BossVF1] Re: VF-1 vs GP-100

> Thanks for the info. Can you please explain how the VF-1 is limited
>in putting the effects in any order?
>
>thanks much!
>Dave Eichenberger
>http://www.hazardfactor.com/dave
>
>
>>
>> The gp has 16 assignable controls, the vf only 4.
>> The gp has a double/stereo send returns, 4 outputs, midi thru/out,
>the vf
>> "only" has stereo in/outputs and digital out and midi in-out (no
>thru, that
>> means it's a midi death end street, midi-splitters and so on).
>> The Gp allows you to put every effect anywhere in the chain, the
>vf is
>> limited.
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