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2013-06-03 by cliffe123
Does anyone feel the same way as I do regardless if you have a cz or vz for like 25 years knowing they still work we never grow tired of playing and programing them? Well for 25 years for me I still never got tired of my instruments. I'm still scratching the surface although is good to share our thoughts. (Note no plans of updates yet on the last set of patches but even I cant seem to stand still but one day I will) Well have a great summer:-D
2013-06-04 by charlie midi gfa
so "cliffe" as a handle says it all. now just u get all the machines you don't have , between you and others , , bridging similarity can be a wide spread thing my trouble is nobody programs on a communal basis they just stand there waving , saying: i made this i made this ,,not really overily concerned if it is crucial anybody have midi progrsmming skills for atari st??? anybody have some new fz10m stuff to share? /|\atari charlie ----- Original Message -----
From: "cliffe123" <cliffe123@...> To: <CZ-VZ-Files@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 7:18 PM Subject: [CZ-VZ-Files] Never grow tired. > Does anyone feel the same way as I do regardless if you have a cz or vz > for like 25 years knowing they still work we never grow tired of playing > and programing them? Well for 25 years for me I still never got tired of > my instruments. I'm still scratching the surface although is good to share > our thoughts. (Note no plans of updates yet on the last set of patches but > even I cant seem to stand still but one day I will) Well have a great > summer:-D > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
2013-06-08 by cliffe123
Hmmmmm suprisenly I assume they all still work or at least some of them do. Thats like the good old days when atari st and other hardware devices were very popular back in thoese days but the problem with them they get dated fast for newer hardware devices or something they think its better but in actuallity theres no significant differances the way they work. Some like older HW's than newer HW's like me I guess its the way we all are use to liking them. Anyway Its kind of a big problem finding programers thease days who can still specialize in sound designings of very old HW instruments like the synergies synths and others alike. Only if I have the Fz I would be working on sampled snapshots of few patches I made but again in some point in time I may have a few availabe. Some of them will be on my FL Studio 11 project im currently working on later on though:) --- In CZ-VZ-Files@yahoogroups.com, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> wrote:
> > so "cliffe" as a handle says it all. > > now just u get all the machines you don't have , > between you and others , , > > bridging similarity can be a wide spread thing > > my trouble is nobody programs on a communal basis > > they just stand there waving , saying: > i made this > i made this ,,not really overily concerned if it is crucial > > > anybody have midi progrsmming skills for atari st??? > anybody have some new fz10m stuff to share? > > /|\atari > charlie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cliffe123" <cliffe123@...> > To: <CZ-VZ-Files@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 7:18 PM > Subject: [CZ-VZ-Files] Never grow tired. > > > > Does anyone feel the same way as I do regardless if you have a cz or vz > > for like 25 years knowing they still work we never grow tired of playing > > and programing them? Well for 25 years for me I still never got tired of > > my instruments. I'm still scratching the surface although is good to share > > our thoughts. (Note no plans of updates yet on the last set of patches but > > even I cant seem to stand still but one day I will) Well have a great > > summer:-D > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
2013-06-09 by fzfan26116161
I haven't heard your more recent VZ patches, cliff, but I remain in awe of what you have been able to do. As for me, my VZ-8m (originally purchased new from Sam Ash, I believe) still works and still holds the patches I developed decades ago. Other than the patch I developed and used in my "Study in Harmonics" piece a few years ago ( http://www.electro-music.com/forum/topic-41257.html ), I have not designed any more sounds for the VZ, but it is always on the back burner. I am interested in slowly transforming and other electro-ambient sounds which can be played with realtime controls (e.g. CCs, aftertouch--as a knob, PWheel, Modwheel, and front panel harmonics manipulation). If you are ever interested in developing a basic template for such sounds, I'd be interested in collaborating by taking the template and tweaking it to come up with some unique variations of the basic template. Maybe others could try a hand at this so we could develop a collaboratively designed bank. Steve --- In CZ-VZ-Files@yahoogroups.com, "cliffe123" <cliffe123@...> wrote:
> > Hmmmmm suprisenly I assume they all still work or at least some of them do. Thats like the good old days when atari st and other hardware devices were very popular back in thoese days but the problem with them they get dated fast for newer hardware devices or something they think its better but in actuallity theres no significant differances the way they work. Some like older HW's than newer HW's like me I guess its the way we all are use to liking them. Anyway Its kind of a big problem finding programers thease days who can still specialize in sound designings of very old HW instruments like the synergies synths and others alike. Only if I have the Fz I would be working on sampled snapshots of few patches I made but again in some point in time I may have a few availabe. Some of them will be on my FL Studio 11 project im currently working on later on though:) > > --- In CZ-VZ-Files@yahoogroups.com, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@> wrote: > > > > so "cliffe" as a handle says it all. > > > > now just u get all the machines you don't have , > > between you and others , , > > > > bridging similarity can be a wide spread thing > > > > my trouble is nobody programs on a communal basis > > > > they just stand there waving , saying: > > i made this > > i made this ,,not really overily concerned if it is crucial > > > > > > anybody have midi progrsmming skills for atari st??? > > anybody have some new fz10m stuff to share? > > > > /|\atari > > charlie > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "cliffe123" <cliffe123@> > > To: <CZ-VZ-Files@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 7:18 PM > > Subject: [CZ-VZ-Files] Never grow tired. > > > > > > > Does anyone feel the same way as I do regardless if you have a cz or vz > > > for like 25 years knowing they still work we never grow tired of playing > > > and programing them? Well for 25 years for me I still never got tired of > > > my instruments. I'm still scratching the surface although is good to share > > > our thoughts. (Note no plans of updates yet on the last set of patches but > > > even I cant seem to stand still but one day I will) Well have a great > > > summer:-D > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2013-06-10 by charlie midi gfa
thats right cliffe be true to your self while this stuff is catchy don't get hung up trying to do what others are trying to do do it for yourself any good fz10m disk traders out there? charlie ----- Original Message -----
From: "cliffe123" <cliffe123@...> To: <CZ-VZ-Files@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 3:05 PM Subject: [CZ-VZ-Files] Re: Never grow tired. > Hmmmmm suprisenly I assume they all still work or at least some of them > do. Thats like the good old days when atari st and other hardware devices > were very popular back in thoese days but the problem with them they get > dated fast for newer hardware devices or something they think its better > but in actuallity theres no significant differances the way they work. > Some like older HW's than newer HW's like me I guess its the way we all > are use to liking them. Anyway Its kind of a big problem finding > programers thease days who can still specialize in sound designings of > very old HW instruments like the synergies synths and others alike. Only > if I have the Fz I would be working on sampled snapshots of few patches I > made but again in some point in time I may have a few availabe. Some of > them will be on my FL Studio 11 project im currently working on later on > though:) > > --- In CZ-VZ-Files@yahoogroups.com, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> > wrote: >> >> so "cliffe" as a handle says it all. >> >> now just u get all the machines you don't have , >> between you and others , , >> >> bridging similarity can be a wide spread thing >> >> my trouble is nobody programs on a communal basis >> >> they just stand there waving , saying: >> i made this >> i made this ,,not really overily concerned if it is crucial >> >> >> anybody have midi progrsmming skills for atari st??? >> anybody have some new fz10m stuff to share? >> >> /|\atari >> charlie >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "cliffe123" <cliffe123@...> >> To: <CZ-VZ-Files@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 7:18 PM >> Subject: [CZ-VZ-Files] Never grow tired. >> >> >> > Does anyone feel the same way as I do regardless if you have a cz or vz >> > for like 25 years knowing they still work we never grow tired of >> > playing >> > and programing them? Well for 25 years for me I still never got tired >> > of >> > my instruments. I'm still scratching the surface although is good to >> > share >> > our thoughts. (Note no plans of updates yet on the last set of patches >> > but >> > even I cant seem to stand still but one day I will) Well have a great >> > summer:-D >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
2013-06-11 by cliffe123
Yes that would be a great idea making up a uique template and how a sound can transform into a different sound all together whether its pichbend, aftertouch or just playing notes up the scale. Me myself im still developing new sounds and I dont know when this one will be out. In fact im working on 2 sets. one set im still trying to make the sounds authentic or realistic as possible on set 4 and its more of an update. Last set will be totally different from the rest (although it may not be 64 paches) I know one thing there will be lots to choose from on this last set. Hopefully i'll see if I could come up with a template or maybe something different along that nature. That would be really cool though. --- In CZ-VZ-Files@yahoogroups.com, "fzfan26116161" <smw-mail@...> wrote:
> > I haven't heard your more recent VZ patches, cliff, but I remain in awe of what you have been able to do. As for me, my VZ-8m (originally purchased new from Sam Ash, I believe) still works and still holds the patches I developed decades ago. > > Other than the patch I developed and used in my "Study in Harmonics" piece a few years ago ( http://www.electro-music.com/forum/topic-41257.html ), I have not designed any more sounds for the VZ, but it is always on the back burner. > > I am interested in slowly transforming and other electro-ambient sounds which can be played with realtime controls (e.g. CCs, aftertouch--as a knob, PWheel, Modwheel, and front panel harmonics manipulation). > > If you are ever interested in developing a basic template for such sounds, I'd be interested in collaborating by taking the template and tweaking it to come up with some unique variations of the basic template. Maybe others could try a hand at this so we could develop a collaboratively designed bank. > > Steve > > > > --- In CZ-VZ-Files@yahoogroups.com, "cliffe123" <cliffe123@> wrote: > > > > Hmmmmm suprisenly I assume they all still work or at least some of them do. Thats like the good old days when atari st and other hardware devices were very popular back in thoese days but the problem with them they get dated fast for newer hardware devices or something they think its better but in actuallity theres no significant differances the way they work. Some like older HW's than newer HW's like me I guess its the way we all are use to liking them. Anyway Its kind of a big problem finding programers thease days who can still specialize in sound designings of very old HW instruments like the synergies synths and others alike. Only if I have the Fz I would be working on sampled snapshots of few patches I made but again in some point in time I may have a few availabe. Some of them will be on my FL Studio 11 project im currently working on later on though:) > > > > --- In CZ-VZ-Files@yahoogroups.com, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@> wrote: > > > > > > so "cliffe" as a handle says it all. > > > > > > now just u get all the machines you don't have , > > > between you and others , , > > > > > > bridging similarity can be a wide spread thing > > > > > > my trouble is nobody programs on a communal basis > > > > > > they just stand there waving , saying: > > > i made this > > > i made this ,,not really overily concerned if it is crucial > > > > > > > > > anybody have midi progrsmming skills for atari st??? > > > anybody have some new fz10m stuff to share? > > > > > > /|\atari > > > charlie > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "cliffe123" <cliffe123@> > > > To: <CZ-VZ-Files@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 7:18 PM > > > Subject: [CZ-VZ-Files] Never grow tired. > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone feel the same way as I do regardless if you have a cz or vz > > > > for like 25 years knowing they still work we never grow tired of playing > > > > and programing them? Well for 25 years for me I still never got tired of > > > > my instruments. I'm still scratching the surface although is good to share > > > > our thoughts. (Note no plans of updates yet on the last set of patches but > > > > even I cant seem to stand still but one day I will) Well have a great > > > > summer:-D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >